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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-18 18:42:25
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Shiva.Daimos said:
I find it entertaining...man I don't even remember what I was thinking. This thread fckin blows.

Yea I'm bored lurking in this thread now too D:
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-08-18 18:42:42
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I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:43:04
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Don't weaponskill i. askar, for that use a domaru, you gain str and stp. On the other hand... Domaru is STILL stupid to TP in because it takes all of a week if that to get an Askar Body.

As for Argettio, you should be ashamed of yourself for flaming people and telling them to use sushi. My sam was capping acc at 75 with meat, now at 80 doing the same events I gain 43 accuracy (23 from skill 20 from level correction). This means that in situations where I even needed to use pizza, my accuracy is now capped at with meat. The only time a sam will ever need accuracy, pizza will cover, I can not fathom there being more than idk let's say 3 situations where sushi will cap what pizza will not.

As for /drg it is situational with a single hit GK. I myself am about to finish my OAT weapon and I plan on running a 26% haste OAT build. The reason OAT is so good with /drg is because jumps stack with the DA thereby doubling its usefulness. (The fact that you /drg and get an acc bonus and still decide to use sushi furthers your stupidity)

Lastly, 20.0tp/hit is NOT a good 5hit. You want 20.2-20.4 to get a comfortable 5 hit while maintaining a strong ws build. Every 1 stp you add to your tp build takes away ~4-5 you need in your WS build, allowing you to use more str.

I said use pizza when accuracy is low, and then I later clarified that the low acc situations I was referring too were on mobs that were high level and also had a high defense, which does make pizza a useful food. THAT is how I see this conversation in my eyes.
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-08-18 18:43:27
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Needz moar obscure random pics to enforce posts.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:44:31
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Don't weaponskill i. askar, for that use a domaru, you gain str and stp. On the other hand... Domaru is STILL stupid to TP in because it takes all of a week if that to get an Askar Body.

As for Argettio, you should be ashamed of yourself for flaming people and telling them to use sushi. My sam was capping acc at 75 with meat, now at 80 doing the same events I gain 43 accuracy (23 from skill 20 from level correction). This means that in situations where I even needed to use pizza, my accuracy is now capped at with meat. The only time a sam will ever need accuracy, pizza will cover, I can not fathom there being more than idk let's say 3 situations where sushi will cap what pizza will not.

As for /drg it is situational with a single hit GK. I myself am about to finish my OAT weapon and I plan on running a 26% haste OAT build. The reason OAT is so good with /drg is because jumps stack with the DA thereby doubling its usefulness. (The fact that you /drg and get an acc bonus and still decide to use sushi furthers your stupidity)

Lastly, 20.0tp/hit is NOT a good 5hit. You want 20.2-20.4 to get a comfortable 5 hit while maintaining a strong ws build. Every 1 stp you add to your tp build takes away ~4-5 you need in your WS build, allowing you to use more str.

I said use pizza when accuracy is low, and then I later clarified that the low acc situations I was referring too were on mobs that were high level and also had a high defense, which does make pizza a useful food. THAT is how I see this conversation in my eyes.

The Samurai in your avatar is disappoint in you being so gimp.

Gear means NOTHING these days.

But seriously,
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:44:52
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Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-08-18 18:45:35
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His situationals are imaginary. You heard it here.
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:45:36
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Don't weaponskill i. askar, for that use a domaru, you gain str and stp. On the other hand... Domaru is STILL stupid to TP in because it takes all of a week if that to get an Askar Body.

As for Argettio, you should be ashamed of yourself for flaming people and telling them to use sushi. My sam was capping acc at 75 with meat, now at 80 doing the same events I gain 43 accuracy (23 from skill 20 from level correction). This means that in situations where I even needed to use pizza, my accuracy is now capped at with meat. The only time a sam will ever need accuracy, pizza will cover, I can not fathom there being more than idk let's say 3 situations where sushi will cap what pizza will not.

As for /drg it is situational with a single hit GK. I myself am about to finish my OAT weapon and I plan on running a 26% haste OAT build. The reason OAT is so good with /drg is because jumps stack with the DA thereby doubling its usefulness. (The fact that you /drg and get an acc bonus and still decide to use sushi furthers your stupidity)

Lastly, 20.0tp/hit is NOT a good 5hit. You want 20.2-20.4 to get a comfortable 5 hit while maintaining a strong ws build. Every 1 stp you add to your tp build takes away ~4-5 you need in your WS build, allowing you to use more str.

I said use pizza when accuracy is low, and then I later clarified that the low acc situations I was referring too were on mobs that were high level and also had a high defense, which does make pizza a useful food. THAT is how I see this conversation in my eyes.

The Samurai in your avatar is disappoint in you being so gimp.

Gear means NOTHING these days.

The man in your avatar should be eating chicken.

Stereotypes mean NOTHING these days.
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:45:52
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Shiva.Daimos said:
His situationals are imaginary. You heard it here.

See: "seem"
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-08-18 18:45:57
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:46:31
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Don't weaponskill i. askar, for that use a domaru, you gain str and stp. On the other hand... Domaru is STILL stupid to TP in because it takes all of a week if that to get an Askar Body.

As for Argettio, you should be ashamed of yourself for flaming people and telling them to use sushi. My sam was capping acc at 75 with meat, now at 80 doing the same events I gain 43 accuracy (23 from skill 20 from level correction). This means that in situations where I even needed to use pizza, my accuracy is now capped at with meat. The only time a sam will ever need accuracy, pizza will cover, I can not fathom there being more than idk let's say 3 situations where sushi will cap what pizza will not.

As for /drg it is situational with a single hit GK. I myself am about to finish my OAT weapon and I plan on running a 26% haste OAT build. The reason OAT is so good with /drg is because jumps stack with the DA thereby doubling its usefulness. (The fact that you /drg and get an acc bonus and still decide to use sushi furthers your stupidity)

Lastly, 20.0tp/hit is NOT a good 5hit. You want 20.2-20.4 to get a comfortable 5 hit while maintaining a strong ws build. Every 1 stp you add to your tp build takes away ~4-5 you need in your WS build, allowing you to use more str.

I said use pizza when accuracy is low, and then I later clarified that the low acc situations I was referring too were on mobs that were high level and also had a high defense, which does make pizza a useful food. THAT is how I see this conversation in my eyes.

The Samurai in your avatar is disappoint in you being so gimp.

Gear means NOTHING these days.

The man in your avatar should be eating chicken.

Stereotypes mean NOTHING these days.

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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-18 18:46:39
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Gonna use one of my favorite ones.

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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:46:51
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Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.

You entered this thread with the mindset of disregarding everything I say as being false, without opening your mind to the possibilities. Keep thinking sushi is great for everything, you are definitely good Samurais.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:47:29
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.

You entered this thread with the mindset of disregarding everything I say as being false, without opening your mind to the possibilities. Keep thinking sushi is great for everything, you are definitely good Samurais.

Please quote where Borealis stated Sushi was the best food for every situation.

I'll wait.
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-08-18 18:48:44
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Ok its boring now. It is like talking to a wall.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-18 18:48:53
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This back and forth is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. He already ackowledged Pizza being inferior to Sushi which is true. And sushi inferior to Curry when accuracy is close to cap. Also true. With pizza pulling ahead for stuff like JoL, also true.

[deadhorse][/deadhorse] here.
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:49:03
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.

You entered this thread with the mindset of disregarding everything I say as being false, without opening your mind to the possibilities. Keep thinking sushi is great for everything, you are definitely good Samurais.

Please quote where Borealis stated Sushi was the best food for every situation.

I'll wait.

Please list the foods you would use other that sushi and what those situations would be... I'll wait. (Hint: It better not be curry or pizza or you'll look like a dumbass)
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:49:42
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
This back and forth is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. He already ackowledged Pizza being inferior to Sushi which is true. And sushi inferior to Curry when accuracy is close to cap. Also true. With pizza pulling ahead for stuff like JoL, also true.

[deadhorse][/deadhorse] here.

The one person I had any repect for this entire thread. /thread
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2010-08-18 18:49:54
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You guys shud all go to one server and ballista 1v1. One person useing sushi another meat, whoever wins can talk!
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-08-18 18:50:07
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See: This thread sucks, As it's just another fckin sam gear advice thread. 1 in a million.

You know why sam threads outnumber every other 10 to 1? Because of bandwagoners that don't know what they're doing.

Jesus, Sam has to be one of the simplest jobs in game, and yet there is always so much animosity.

I'm really bored with this now, as the same argument is reworded over and over. I'm leaving in a few minutes, See ya in a couple days xiah.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:51:17
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.

You entered this thread with the mindset of disregarding everything I say as being false, without opening your mind to the possibilities. Keep thinking sushi is great for everything, you are definitely good Samurais.

Please quote where Borealis stated Sushi was the best food for every situation.

I'll wait.

Please list the foods you would use other that sushi and what those situations would be... I'll wait. (Hint: It better not be curry or pizza or you'll look like a dumbass)

I'm still waiting for the quote where Borealis states that Sushi is the best food for any situation.

ONCE A *** GAIN you are straw-manning the argument.
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:52:48
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.

You entered this thread with the mindset of disregarding everything I say as being false, without opening your mind to the possibilities. Keep thinking sushi is great for everything, you are definitely good Samurais.

Please quote where Borealis stated Sushi was the best food for every situation.

I'll wait.

Please list the foods you would use other that sushi and what those situations would be... I'll wait. (Hint: It better not be curry or pizza or you'll look like a dumbass)

I'm still waiting for the quote where Borealis states that Sushi is the best food for any situation.

ONCE A *** GAIN you are straw-manning the argument.

Ok you want to use caps so I will too.

MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT SUSHI ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST, I THEN STARTED LISTING SCENARIOS WHERE SUSHI IS BEATEN. YOU ALL NERDRAGE I GET DEFENSIVE. NOTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-08-18 18:52:57
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I'm off to my golden bed with my 3 models and Zibo's mum, work tomorrow. Toodles.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:56:01
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
I'll admit I've skewed some truths but I hold fast that when accuracy is capped 7 str > 5 str (red curry) and that some mobs have such high defense, that attack is not ignorable whether it be for melee or ws damage. Keep using sushi I don't give a flying ***, but realize gekko is not always capped, and some of you have all ready admitted that (See the JoL post) and you have admitted that str is the best for gekko, so how is 5 str > 7 str especially when accuracy is so easy to cap on 95% of mobs. I want to be enlightened.

THE BOLD TEXT HOLDS THE ANSWERS TO OUR DREAMS!

By skewing truths, I meant not presenting exact examples for every single thing I said, making most of them seem imaginary, and then later "back tracking" to try and present cases where my examples would hold true.

Sure thing, buddy.

You entered this thread with the mindset of disregarding everything I say as being false, without opening your mind to the possibilities. Keep thinking sushi is great for everything, you are definitely good Samurais.

Please quote where Borealis stated Sushi was the best food for every situation.

I'll wait.

Please list the foods you would use other that sushi and what those situations would be... I'll wait. (Hint: It better not be curry or pizza or you'll look like a dumbass)

I'm still waiting for the quote where Borealis states that Sushi is the best food for any situation.

ONCE A *** GAIN you are straw-manning the argument.

Ok you want to use caps so I will too.

MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT SUSHI ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST, I THEN STARTED LISTING SCENARIOS WHERE SUSHI IS BEATEN. YOU ALL NERDRAGE I GET DEFENSIVE. NOTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND.

COMING FROM THE PERSON WHO OPENLY ADMITTED TO 'SKEWING TRUTHS' YOUR POINT WAS WRONG ORIGINALLY, IT GOT PROVEN WRONG AND NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO COVER YOUR TRACK BY SAYING YOU MEANT SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY. YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS PAPER THIN AND A BLIND HOBO COULD SEE WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE. PLEASE STOP PLAYING SAMURAI, SOMEONE WITH YOUR MINDSET MAKES EVERY OTHER SAMURAI LOOK BAD. I WOULD ACTUALLY STAB YOU IN THE EYE IF I KNEW YOU IN REAL LIFE THEN PISS IN YOUR BLEEDING EYE SOCKET

I SAID ALL OF THIS INCREDIBLY CALMLY, BUT USING CAPS MAKES ME LOOK LIKE THE HULK.
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2010-08-18 18:56:53
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Yagudo Drinks are the best.. idk how this was left out. You self SC and thunder2 MB ftw :D
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-18 18:57:13
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Yet we're all now in agreeance of which food beats which and when.
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By Ifrit.Zibo 2010-08-18 18:57:31
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I should stop playing samurai because I had a huge argument that was a misunderstanding, righttt.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:57:45
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Yet we're all now in agreeance of which food beats which and when.

We are indeed, I think most of us always were to be honest.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-18 18:58:10
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
I should stop playing samurai because I had a huge argument that was a misunderstanding, righttt.

Yes... 'Misunderstanding' -_-
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-08-18 19:01:39
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Can i eats Bison steaks for 6 STRZ and MAOR ATTACKS than yellow curry (cuz seriously who buys red curry its expensive as hell for no real reason lol)!?!?!? LOL Sorry was reading this entire thread and it needed a lil more lulz
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