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Is this really worth playing anymore?
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 441
By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-01-15 22:39:18
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Ok, you guys can play My Little Therapist as long as you want to. You guys can log off your PCs tonight feeling all warm and fuzzy inside because you've managed to hold an umbrella over this kid's head instead of letting the rain drench him until he finally thought about seeking shelter. I don't care. The OP can quit the game, commit suicide (DISCLAIMER: Not saying he SHOULD), admit himself in a residential treatment program, or simply stop posting and none of you would know the difference.
I was told to offer a suggestion, and I did. And then you guys start bitching about it because I didn't offer it "constructively." (READ: sugar coat)
And now another person trying to write like GM Dave... look at his/her/its profile... Not even a player anymore. Just someone who has nothing better to do but talk ***online.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-15 22:42:06
I rather people who talk ***, to people who post sob stories trying to get sympathy from random people online.
 Cerberus.Katarzyna
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-01-15 22:42:49
Shiva.Darkmacabre said: And now another person trying to write like GM Dave... look at his/her/its profile... Not even a player anymore. Just someone who has nothing better to do but talk ***online.
Actually, I unlinked my linkshell profile 3 months ago.
(That doesn't mean I quit the game.)
Quote: Katarzyna is a troll. Every single post I've read of her was to put someone down. Maybe she was nicer before, but I didn't notice her until recently. Just because she's a girl doesn't give her a valid point to be utterly annoyed by every emotional person on this planet and sue them about it... >.> Oh wait, maybe she's a guy. Damn, I completely missed that part. I say he's guilty of trolling.
Ok here's a troll post dedicated to you:
I say you're guilty of idiocy.
And who have I "sued" exactly?
I like how if someone is brutally honest, they're a "troll." I like how if someone has a differing opinion, they're also a "troll." Can I call you a troll, because you called me a troll? Ok, you're a troll, simply because I said so.
(If you haven't noticed by now, your opinion means nothing to me.)
 Sylph.Ixe
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By Sylph.Ixe 2010-01-15 22:42:59
Asura.Hit said: Bartimaeus we gotta stop quoting the same thing.. Hit you're the exception...
You got your girl :P
I perrrrrsonally would never do this to a person :x
Buuuuut This happens to -guys- all the time
Sorry to hear it happened to you Dar~
But I hear this all the time from guys on my server
Asura.Hit
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 765
By Asura.Hit 2010-01-15 22:43:13
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Ok, you guys can play My Little Therapist as long as you want to. You guys can log off your PCs tonight feeling all warm and fuzzy inside because you've managed to hold an umbrella over this kid's head instead of letting the rain drench him until he finally thought about seeking shelter. I don't care. The OP can quit the game, commit suicide (DISCLAIMER: Not saying he SHOULD. In fact, he SHOULDN'T), admit himself in a residential treatment program, or simply stop posting and none of you would know the difference.
I was told to offer a suggestion, and I did. And then you guys start bitching about it because I didn't offer it "constructively." (READ: sugar coat)
Okay, You're right you don't have to sugar coat it... and maybe it did degenerate into a little bit of everybody vs. Katarzyna, but I think you're making more out of it than it is.. Personally I think he should see a counselor at the least if he's that tore up about it, but it seems more like he just needed to vent.
Asura.Hit
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By Asura.Hit 2010-01-15 22:50:39
Sylph.Ixe said: Asura.Hit said: Bartimaeus we gotta stop quoting the same thing.. Hit you're the exception...
You got your girl :P
I perrrrrsonally would never do this to a person :x
Buuuuut This happens to -guys- all the time
Sorry to hear it happened to you Dar~
But I hear this all the time from guys on my server
You're right, this happened to a friend of mine recently (won't name names) it can be a difficult time. I hate to see a friend who used to love the game searching to find a reason to stay online.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-01-15 23:00:20
Gonna keep it short, Bart summed up what I'd say, more or less.
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said: Answer to OP Title: Yes, just not with some of the *** out there and/or on here.
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By Garuda.Sukihiku 2010-01-15 23:31:55
Ashitaka said:
Meh. I AM married to some one I met on the game so boo. Have been for some time >:D...
^ Word. I'm engaged to mah manz that I met on the game! =)
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By Lakshmi.Sage 2010-01-16 00:42:26
Garuda.Wooooodum said: So did anyone hear what happened in Haiti... Honestly. Reality check, do you need it?
From usatoday.com.....
"Haitian President Rene Preval told The Miami Herald that over a 20-hour period government crews had removed 7,000 corpses from the streets and morgues and buried them in mass graves. The International Red Cross estimated that up to 50,000 people were killed in the quake."
...oh yea...back to you're online relationship woes. I know it might be hard for you to understand now, but when you're older you'll see just how young and naive 18 year olds can be, and you'll learn to laugh at it. You may not want to hear this but stop feeling sorry for yourself. You're too young too be feeling such hoplessness. Imagine how the people in haiti feel right now. Can you compare? You should be thankful for what you have. Maybe this girl moving to another server was for the best. Perhaps she realized online relationships dont work, but knew how attached you were to her and was afraid to hurt you. Atleast she did what seemed best for you, because what you described is very unhealthy. By switching servers she made the decision for both of you, rather than giving you the option to try to hold on. In time you'll realize it was for the best for both of you. Its just hard to see that now. Anyway, Ive said my peace. Good luck
Bahamut.Xswift
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By Bahamut.Xswift 2010-01-16 00:56:32
My God, its like these woman ran off with your balls, no wonder you play the game, you shelter yourself from the harsh realities of the world. Man up and learn rule number 1, the only person you can trust is YOURSELF. I can't even feel sorry for you because that's not what you need, you need a damn reality check. If you let woman always get the better of you no matter how desperate you are for a connection, they will eventually leave you because your just not interesting, your predictable and a pussy. You don't need to be a *** all the time, but just enough to show them you have a backbone and just maybe... you might find one that won't run off.
Someone says he thinks he just needed to vent, I think this is like some desperate ploy to get the girls attention and maybe make her feel sorry for him so she comes back.
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 Asura.Humtum
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By Asura.Humtum 2010-01-16 00:58:32
Bahamut.Xswift said: My God, its like these woman ran off with your balls, no wonder you play the game, you shelter yourself from the harsh realities of the world. Man up and learn rule number 1, the only person you can trust is YOURSELF. I can't even feel sorry for you because that's not what you need, you need a damn reality check. If you let woman always get the better of you no matter how desperate you are for a connection, they will eventually leave you because your just not interesting, your predictable and a pussy. You don't need to be a *** all the time, but just enough to show them you have a backbone and just maybe... you might find one that won't run off.
lol well said
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-01-16 01:11:49
Bahamut.Xswift said: My God, its like these woman ran off with your balls, no wonder you play the game, you shelter yourself from the harsh realities of the world. Man up and learn rule number 1, the only person you can trust is YOURSELF. I can't even feel sorry for you because that's not what you need, you need a damn reality check. If you let woman always get the better of you no matter how desperate you are for a connection, they will eventually leave you because your just not interesting, your predictable and a pussy. You don't need to be a *** all the time, but just enough to show them you have a backbone and just maybe... you might find one that won't run off.
Someone says he thinks he just needed to vent, I think this is like some desperate ploy to get the girls attention and maybe make her feel sorry for him so she comes back.
I agree with you to a degree, however you fail to also realize that women in general can and tend to be *** crazy. There doesn't have to be a justification for what happened, and it sucks.
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-01-16 01:11:52
Bahamut.Xswift said: My God, its like these woman ran off with your balls, no wonder you play the game, you shelter yourself from the harsh realities of the world. Man up and learn rule number 1, the only person you can trust is YOURSELF. I can't even feel sorry for you because that's not what you need, you need a damn reality check. If you let woman always get the better of you no matter how desperate you are for a connection, they will eventually leave you because your just not interesting, your predictable and a pussy. You don't need to be a *** all the time, but just enough to show them you have a backbone and just maybe... you might find one that won't run off.
Someone says he thinks he just needed to vent, I think this is like some desperate ploy to get the girls attention and maybe make her feel sorry for him so she comes back.
heh...No it's nothing like that at all. And don't misunderstand, I don't feel sorry for myself. I know it was the right thing to do. And I know she knows it too. I'm only mourning the loss of a good friend/lover. And needed to vent out. As for 'sheltering myself', I'm not sure you know what you speak of because clearly I came out of the open to speak my heart out. At least I have balls, you who doesn't trust anyone needs to grow some and stop running away like the girls did.
And if the only person you can trust is yourself, you'll live a life full of emptiness. Perhaps you should learn more before you try to preach your beliefs.
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By Remora.Belius 2010-01-16 01:14:31
You could have still talked to me :(
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By Seraph.Pikachu 2010-01-16 01:24:51
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-01-16 01:25:31
lmao damn man go back to /b/ XD
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-01-16 01:26:50
Remora.Belius said: You could have still talked to me :(
And I didn't see you on D: we can talk tomorrow lol...well on here x_x I plan on buying a new game like I used to before FF sucked me in. xD Need a small break methinks..
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-01-16 01:47:36
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-01-16 01:48:41
Cats make everything better. True story.
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By Siren.Temeraire 2010-01-16 01:48:42
I haven't bothered to read the five pages separating the OP from this post, as I just want to reply to the OP...
I played this game forever, and I had ups and downs:
Close friendships formed, then ended because someone ripped me off over gil or a rare drop.
Even closer friendships ended because real life forced someone I was close to out of the game and we barely communicate anymore.
A very good linkshell I was in descended from on top of the world all the way to being unable to kill Proto-Omega reliably.
Along the way I had to teach myself to keep my mouth shut and not make deposits when fools are letting their egos write checks that their *** can't cash.
I had to learn the hard way to always have potential drops planned out in advance, even with people I trusted implicitly.
But I made memories during my time in FFXI. I haven't forgotten the thrill of HNM kills, or how it felt to earn your mission reward. I haven't forgotten the friends I made, or the crazy things we did.
In the end, I left FFXI frustrated and disappointed. My server went from Ballista Royale champions to 11 man Tiamats to chaos to bot wars to what seems to exist now: endless immature bickering over five year old monsters.
Today, I am not frustrated or disappointed anymore. People aren't really like that in real life. Most of them understand that you don't fix problems by running away from them. They know that most excuses are *** and don't change anything for the better.
These days, I run into one of these posts lamenting what happened ingame about once a month, if not more often. What I am saying here is people aren't like that in real life. Most of them don't have the courage to get up and make a change, for better or for worse. Hell, many people probably end up sitting there in a chair playing this game (and others) precisely because they lack the courage to make a change in the real world.
Delete the game off your computer. Throw away your discs so you aren't tempted later on to reinstall. It is time to move on. And whatever you end up doing, don't look back on FFXI in anger. Or frustration, disappointment, bitterness...whatever.
You had your fun.
Shiva.Xet
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By Shiva.Xet 2010-01-16 02:16:10
Hey you are on my server!
Ok taking what you have said with how you have replied to what has been said both positive and negative this is my opinion.
I would definitely get some help/interaction. Even if its just with family that live away from you or something. I can see where you are coming from 100% but you do SEEM to be wanting happy smile answers as everyone that has said anything (even if it was correct or an option you could follow) in a negative light you have basically had a go at lol.
When I was 18 I broke up with an awesome girl and completely destroyed me but after a bit I went out with friends, got smashed, had a laugh then I was right as rain. It happens.
I date someone on FF atm, I like her alot, we are currently saving to see each other. We have each others account info, we have used each others characters. We MSN mic/cam all the time. Is it ideal, *** no. If she screwed me over because of the obvious danger and what happened to me when i was 18 (24 now lol) I wouldn't be in such a state. I would accept the fact i made a bad judgement call and get over it. Pissed yes, end of the world, no.
Is what we do/did clever?. Well no it isn't but I'm happy. If she screwed me over would i feel like you? No cos i been through bad ***before. It gets easier, move on.
Summary as a rambled.
1. Everything said has merit, all say the same thing. Get help/interaction. Even the ppl saying you are a retard are basically saying this.......do it!
2. It gets better, follow step one.
3. Should you do it again? If you do accept the risks and don't be omfgwtfbbqsauce if it falls apart.
4. Please follow step one. We are all saying this, although i do like Courage wolf and the cool cat pics.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-01-16 02:19:15
Long story short, go out and live life instead of being cloistered in the game's already negative drama antics. You'll build a resistance to its *** and things will in turn get alot better and generally be more enjoyable.
Siren.Avina
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By Siren.Avina 2010-01-16 02:21:56
It's sorta been said before, maybe I just want to give my little spin on it.
People are going to leave you in life. IRL, in the game, whatever. They have that choice. And whenever you enter into a relationship for the first time, there is always a good share of risk. "The one" doesn't always come so easily.
Sometimes the other person doesn't need a reason to leave you. Sometimes its just because they want to date other people. That's what happened to me and my girlfriend (IRL) around your age. One day I got told "We don't fight or anything, there aren't any problems, so what are we going to do? Date until we get married?" And she wasn't ready to find the one. At the time I couldn't see that, and I made the mistake of fighting against that, feeling like I could win her back when I couldn't. That was my mistake, to fight against it so hard. Because all I did was push her further away to the point where we aren't friends anymore. It's something I regret.
But you live and you learn. Sometimes you *** up, and like others have said, you deal with it.
And while I'm not going to troll you, I am going to talk frankly, you've been very naive. I'm not saying it is something you should be ashamed about either, you are young. But the sooner you realize the part you played and how you let yourself fall into this mess, the faster you will mature and become happier. And as a general rule, internet relationships incorporate a huge amount of risk, even more so than IRL relationships. It was naive to get so involved and so attached to a girl in a video game, exactly for the consequences that you have seen. It was a mistake. But you didn't know better. Now you should.
I know this may run counter to a lot of people's opinions here but I don't believe you should be posting this sort of stuff up on an online forum. The biggest reason is because you are just a name on a screen, just like in FFXI. We don't know you, and honestly, really don't have much of a reason to care. And likewise we don't really mean a whole lot to you either (or at least, we shouldn't). You would get a lot more meaning advice and interactions from people who know you, like your parents, or you close friends, even LS buddies if they know you well enough. People who know who you are, and can give you better advice.
And as a general rule, you shouldn't often talk much with other people about your own personal problems, especially potential girlfriends and whatnot. It is basically putting your weight, and your problems, onto them, and in many cases it will push people away. We all have our struggles to deal with and taking on others' too is hard. You save that info for someone who really is special, and who knows you more than just through simple text interactions.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-01-16 02:26:36
Siren.Avina said: It's sorta been said before, maybe I just want to give my little spin on it.
People are going to leave you in life. IRL, in the game, whatever. They have that choice. And whenever you enter into a relationship for the first time, there is always a good share of risk. "The one" doesn't always come so easily.
Sometimes the other person doesn't need a reason to leave you. Sometimes its just because they want to date other people. That's what happened to me and my girlfriend (IRL) around your age. One day I got told "We don't fight or anything, there aren't any problems, so what are we going to do? Date until we get married?" And she wasn't ready to find the one. At the time I couldn't see that, and I made the mistake of fighting against that, feeling like I could win her back when I couldn't. That was my mistake, to fight against it so hard. Because all I did was push her further away to the point where we aren't friends anymore. It's something I regret.
But you live and you learn. Sometimes you *** up, and like others have said, you deal with it.
And while I'm not going to troll you, I am going to talk frankly, you've been very naive. I'm not saying it is something you should be ashamed about either, you are young. But the sooner you realize the part you played and how you let yourself fall into this mess, the faster you will mature and become happier. And as a general rule, internet relationships incorporate a huge amount of risk, even more so than IRL relationships. It was naive to get so involved and so attached to a girl in a video game, exactly for the consequences that you have seen. It was a mistake. But you didn't know better. Now you should.
I know this may run counter to a lot of people's opinions here but I don't believe you should be posting this sort of stuff up on an online forum. The biggest reason is because you are just a name on a screen, just like in FFXI. We don't know you, and honestly, really don't have much of a reason to care. And likewise we don't really mean a whole lot to you either (or at least, we shouldn't). You would get a lot more meaning advice and interactions from people who know you, like your parents, or you close friends, even LS buddies if they know you well enough. People who know who you are, and can give you better advice.
And as a general rule, you shouldn't often talk much with other people about your own personal problems, especially potential girlfriends and whatnot. It is basically putting your weight, and your problems, onto them, and in many cases it will push people away. We all have our struggles to deal with and taking on others' too is hard. You save that info for someone who really is special, and who knows you more than just through simple text interactions.
Very well said. Pointed out alot of things I wanted to say but couldn't put my finger on at the time. Very wise indeed.
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By Fenrir.Sirseifer 2010-01-16 02:44:18
I'd suggest taking up a hobby or doing something like Martial Arts. I'd really recommend Martial Arts, it helps build your confidence and you always meet a great group of people at a club.
Tae-kwon-Do is good fun, you get fit, meet people and improve yourself physically and mentally. Just check out a trial class at the very least, you won't regret it I promise.
Shiva.Xet
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By Shiva.Xet 2010-01-16 05:45:08
Fenrir.Sirseifer said: I'd suggest taking up a hobby or doing something like Martial Arts. I'd really recommend Martial Arts, it helps build your confidence and you always meet a great group of people at a club.
Tae-kwon-Do is good fun, you get fit, meet people and improve yourself physically and mentally. Just check out a trial class at the very least, you won't regret it I promise.
I agree there Tae-kwon-so is tonnes of fun, i just sucked at it, had a great laugh tho XD
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By Seraph.Xdudemanx 2010-01-16 06:20:06
 Shiva.Muter
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By Shiva.Muter 2010-01-16 06:49:37
4:45 am waking up to this is so awsome, Dark you're on Shiva, you should no not to trust anyone on this server, Sucks to get hurt etc, but Dudeman pretty much said it all with his post.
Carry on~
It's funny really how it all turns out to be. Anyone remember that first feeling of playing FF for the first time? lol You run around with RSE gear killing lvl one mobs and loving it.. I'll never forget that feeling. Then you make friends and meet wonderful people who become closer than you'd ever imagine from a video game.
But after years of playthrough and broken memories I've come to realize FF is now nothing more than a place that people seem to forget about what matters in life.
Every single friend I met has forgotten me. I spent hours helping them get what they wanted just because I enjoyed it. In the end I'm tossed aside. It's as if I was just another NPC to them.
I met a beautiful girl on here once who became my best friend. We did everything together lol, farming, quests, duo, you name it. Eventually she became my girlfriend. It lasted for 6 months...six entire months before I found out she was married and only used me as a play thing for pleasure. You'd think it's nothing but when I really believed....when I really loved her...it honestly broke my heart.
Eventually while trying to love FF again I met another while trying to sell an Enhancing Sword. We ended up talking all day and night. lol It was...amazing. For some reason I came to really enjoy her presence. So I told her my life story...about my very first gf who died on her birthday, about my abusive parents, everything.... and about my ex-gf on FF who almost had me at suicide.
And so it went on....she comforted me and I fell for her. She promised to love me forever and be at my side. She promised to never hurt me and I did the same. Perhaps now it sounds so foolish but believe me at that moment of romance....reality changes.
Perhaps she loved me too, I'll never know. We were together a few months before she began to act strange...to have me question things. But whenever I asked she'd push away.. I began to fear that maybe it was happening all over again. But I also fought to hold the trust I had for her....I mean...she swore with all her heart that she loved me. And all I ever gave her was honesty and compassion.
....Today I found out she switched servers and tried to hide from me out of nowhere. Just like my ex... After swearing to never hurt me she did just the same as my ex-girlfriend did.
Laugh at me as you read this, while I cry as I write this. I'm merely a stupid kid who fell in love with the most beautiful girl he's ever met, but in the end she hurt me more than anyone will ever hurt me. I loved her...I still love her. But a few minutes ago I was forced to find where she fled and tell her that I loved her and if she truly never wanted to see me again I'd let her go...because I only wanted her to be happy...
I won't write any names because it's the manly thing to do. They know who they are...they may even be reading this at this very moment. The only thing I want to say is that even though this is merely a game...there are real people playing with real feelings and real lives. Is gil and gear really worth destroying someone's life? Whatever happened to playing for fun and personal enjoyment? I have no regrets for helping out the people I helped before...but for Christ's fucking sake stop fucking with my heart...
Call me emo. call me whatever the hell you want. But I'm just another regular player who loved playing this as much as anyone else. And I see what really happens in this game. I know how people truly are... In this game our true personalities come out and my god...lol...if this is how humans really are..then I sure hope that some fucking meteor shatters the planet. Because I'd rather be a worm than a human being.
If you took the time to read this then thank you... I have no one else to talk to so the FF community seemed just.
Someone please hack my account and delete all my shit because I don't have it in me to quit this prison of a game.
*EDIT* NEVER MIND ABOUT THIS LAST STATEMENT WTF???? EMO MOMENT MUCH?
sigh... edit#2 for those who misunderstood this statement: "But after years of playthrough and broken memories I've come to realize FF is nothing more than hell itself." People seemed to have taken it literally. I meant people in general. And all the bad shit that happens on it.
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