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Yet another SAM gear advice thread
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:30:35
Yea and my response to "everything's situational" is osode is too.
I have osode. I use it for /thf and /drg. I don't use it for /war and /nin
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:34:48
So do you use a Sword Belt +1 over Warwolf belt since 12 attack > 5 STR?
Bahamut.Brake
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By Bahamut.Brake 2009-12-25 04:35:09
Page 2 of this thread was very useful to me. Just wanted to say thanks for that bit of knowledge. Its nice to be able to use rutters again without fear of losing the 6-hit.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:38:24
I didn't say 12 atk > 5 str but nice try :)
and my warwolf has 5 str / 5 acc aug on it so i use that lol
Hades.Kaotik
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By Hades.Kaotik 2009-12-25 04:38:45
I'm seriously more dumb after reading this thread, thank you. You just said that hauby = domaru with regards to nq. Yet was it not also said that Smilodon +1 > Cerb +1 because of the extra STR? If i'm not mistaken smilodon vs cerb is 1 str vs 15 attack, you give it to the 1 str. Hauby vs Domaru is 3 str vs 10 attack. Yet you give it to the attack. So please explain how 1 str < 15 attack but 10 attack > 3 str oh Mr. ICrunchSamNumbersForFun? Not even going to start on all the other BS that's been posted.
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:39:26
Well that's your reasoning for wanting to use Cerb mantle +1. Same logic applies buddy since you think attack doesn't cap.
Nice back pedal though.
If your belt did not have acc+5 which would you use? and please explain why.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:42:13
Yes cerb mantle +1 is the best weaponskill piece for all jobs that can use it, period.
If you think I don't use strength, you're wrong. My gear sets are posted if you'd like to view them. I understand there is an attack cap, but your judging it to be way lower than it is.
Stick to playing thief please.
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:43:22
Good way to dodge the question.
Who said anything about THF jack ***? lol
Hades.Kaotik
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By Hades.Kaotik 2009-12-25 04:44:00
You guys are arguing over STR vs Attack, you have to consider the amounts you are gaining in each. Is 5STR > 12 attack? Yes, no questions asked, using this is an invalid argument. You are trying to give credence to using 1 strength over 15 attack, if I'm not mistaken the difference between 5 STR vs 12 Attack and 1 Strength vs 15 Attack is quite a big difference. And in case you're brain isn't up to it, I'll make it simple. 5 Str is bigger than 1 Str, and the 5 Str is being compared to a lower attack value, therefore the comparison is completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:44:39
Oh I didn't even see your comment. I'd use warwolf still... Because 5 str > 12 atk. I'm not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. However 15 atk > 1 STR.
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:46:44
IF your STR is CAPPED 1 STR > 15 attack because THE EXTRA ATTACK WON'T DO ***.
I give up, apparently, you have a hard time understanding things.
Merry Christmas jackass. I hope Santa takes a dump in your stocking.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:47:48
Attack adds 0 DMG! Y/G/K add 300 attack to weaponskills
I understand now, thank you for enlightening me
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:48:33
If you are at capped acc, are you going to add even more acc?
Same idea.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:48:57
probably cause sam ws accuracy blows
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:49:35
Yep. If that is what you really think, you are beyond help.
Hades.Kvazz
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-12-25 04:49:39
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Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:51:07
was a joke, but yep
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By Hades.Stefanos 2009-12-25 04:51:16
I was gonna add to this argument, but this is going in circles. The answers are already in the earlier pages of the thread about when STR > attack on things.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:52:23
and you use life belt on your tanking set for paladin
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:53:12
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By Hades.Stefanos 2009-12-25 04:53:24
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Allow me, kind sir.
Hades.Kvazz
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-12-25 04:53:55
I was just about to post that one :(
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:54:05
yes i facepalmed when looking at your gear sets lol
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:55:13
and our redmage from the pinkshell chimes in. lmao
Fairy.Brenda
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 04:55:16
At my gearsets? lol?
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By Hades.Stefanos 2009-12-25 04:55:22
Hades.Exion said: and you use life belt on your tanking set for paladin
Would you rather I fulltime a Warwolf Belt? I didn't realize PLDs didn't need accuracy.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:56:19
no bren at stef
Hades.Kvazz
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-12-25 04:56:55
Hades.Exion said: and our redmage from the pinkshell chimes in. lmao Yes indeed! Stop beeing an *** lol, what they said is true, you'r just arguing for the sake of arguing, arent you? :P
You even agreed to str -> atk when it's capped, that's all they'r trying to say.
Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:58:39
I know im bored and tired
I will still never use a simo + 1 over cerb +1 lol
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By Shiva.Nightraid 2009-12-25 05:05:34
Hades.Stefanos said: Hades.Exion said: and you use life belt on your tanking set for paladin
Would you rather I fulltime a Warwolf Belt? I didn't realize PLDs didn't need accuracy.
This is a joke? lol `~`
Ok so my LS is giving me a hard time on my new sam so I was wondering what I should be wearing for fulltime. Currently I have the ACP body with ACC+10 and Double Attack+2 which seems like a good TP piece for over time damage and they tell me I should wear a Hauby or Hauby +1 for the att and WS with it as well because it's better than my Hachiman Domaru. The second item is my Forager's Mantle and Smilodon +1 which they say I should just throw out and full time Forager's. Now I may not have played SAM for very long but I could at least think for 1 hit weapon skills stacking STR and decent acc is enough for WS gear right? Some expert advice would be great.
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