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 Hades.Exion
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 03:27:21
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Well you'd be using sushi so you are already at accuracy cap
So why keep pushing it?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2009-12-25 03:29:17
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and also i am more comfy with my pole grip than any other grip in the game

im a mithra character, so i like any piece of gear that will help boost up my WS damage, especially if i am fighting a higher tier mob that i wont be meleeing as much or all that stuff

i see the pros of the sword strap and all the others but pole grip is there to stay

the ONLY other option i use is soboro + platinum grip which i use for sam/dnc ;]
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By Alexander.Helder 2009-12-25 03:30:05
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Pandemonium.Vincentius said:
100.1 is perfectly safe. You can't possibly get LESS TP on a swing, so that's some pretty crappy logic there >_>....

i was kidding lol
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2009-12-25 03:30:32
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I dont know why you need so much accu on sam, unless you dont have full gk merits?

why not 5hit rindo? you have the gear for it, not like you doing land kings on sam...
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:30:54
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Hades.Exion said:
Well you'd be using sushi so you are already at accuracy cap
So why keep pushing it?


Who the *** said sushi? I only carry sushi with me for NIN or THF. My SAM only eats Yellow Curry Buns, Red Curry when I like dying, and Meat Mithkabobs for bird camps. Quote me where I said anything about using Sushi.
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:31:59
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Fenrir.Dascorp said:
I dont know why you need so much accu on sam, unless you dont have full gk merits?

why not 5hit rindo? you have the gear for it, not like you doing land kings on sam...


That accuracy set caps me on damn near anything without Hasso. I can drop accuracy when I feel comfortable, but adding more without losing haste is a bit difficult, no?

I haven't gotten the +15sTP Rindo yet. And until I get one I like, I won't be using it.

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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 03:34:32
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Well your comment to my comment on using meat was responded to with "WRONG"
Rindo sucks compared to hagun :\

I know you think you're 100% correct because of your "calculator"
However, seriously I have produced different results, which is why I stick with what I stick with.
I still out DPS 90% of non relic DDs in merit parties. So whether you think you are right are not really doesn't matter, because your talking about fractions
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2009-12-25 03:35:30
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so like sub drg.. get more haste and you dont need as much accu thanks to drg job trait..
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:38:06
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.1 more is still .1 more.

The OP wanted to do the best possible with what they have, and I can offer that. If they wanna half-*** it, then I guess I'm not the person to talk to.

Also, my "WRONG" comment had nothing to do with food choice. The exact reply was:
Pandemonium.Vincentius said:
Wrong.

YGK HAVE AN ACCURACY BONUS THAT CAPS YOUR ACC AT OR AROUND 95% ON ALMOST ANYTHING.

Meaning: You can have like 75% accuracy with your normal swings, and still have 95% wsACC. Tested multiple times, I've seen it in my own parser.

I was talking about your WSacc comment, that's all. I'm a firm believer in meat on anything I possibly can use it on.
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 03:38:36
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Wow.

This thread makes me realize why there are so many shitty SAMs running around.
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:39:22
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Fenrir.Dascorp said:
so like sub drg.. get more haste and you dont need as much accu thanks to drg job trait..

/DRG is situational, and most of the things I do, having Provoke is nice to have. (Salvage, tanking various fights, etc etc.)
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2009-12-25 03:40:13
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I'll say this Vin, your polearm tp/ws set is pretty hax and will own some birdies more than hagun..
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:40:28
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Fairy.Brenda said:
Wow.

This thread makes me realize why there are so many shitty SAMs running around.

lololololol I totally understand.
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 03:42:03
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So last question before i stop wasting my time here.
Do you think Smiloden +1 > Cerb +1?
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:42:45
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Fenrir.Dascorp said:
I'll say this Vin, your polear tp/ws set is pretty hax and will own some birdies more than hagun..

Once I finish my polearm merits, I'll be just under the accuracy cap on the level 82 G.Colibri which have 339 evasion. I've just been slacking, I'll have that done soon enough. Probably after my soon-to-be server transfer.

And yes, that means I eat meat there too, even now at about 90% accuracy without any accuracy buffs whatsoever (Minus Hasso).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2009-12-25 03:42:47
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Hades.Exion said:
So last question before i stop wasting my time here.
Do you think Smiloden 1 > Cerb 1?

if you want a serious answer learn how to spell it right >.>
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 03:44:02
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/sigh, I made a typo.
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 03:44:25
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Your coming to Fairy no?
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2009-12-25 03:46:29
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Fairy.Brenda said:
Your coming to Fairy no?

Don't do it, it's a trap?

I mean what?

Huzzah?
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:48:10
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Hades.Exion said:
So last question before i stop wasting my time here.
Do you think Smiloden 1 > Cerb 1?

The only issue there is what are you fighting, and what WS are you using?

Let's say that under optimal conditions, you're using Gekko on a T bunny. Gekko itself, like Yukikaze and Kasha as well, has an immense attack boost for the WS. Cerberus Mantle +1's added attack will likely do nothing, due to your pDIF being capped long before adding any back piece, making Smilodon Mantle +1 ever so slightly better.

However, if you're using Gekko on something harder like Adamantoise, which has an INSANE defense bonus, Cerberus Mantle +1 will provide a greater benefit due to it being practically impossible to cap your pDIF.

Basically, if you're fighting something easier, Smilo+1.

If you have a feeling your pDIF won't be capped (HNM), use Cerb+1/Forager.
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:48:34
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Fairy.Brenda said:
Your coming to Fairy no?

I actually am >_>;;;
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 03:49:06
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Cool, I'll see you here :P
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-12-25 03:50:18
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It'll be early January. =(

But looking forward to it ^^

-edit-
Good night folks, I just realized it's 2AM, and I gotta be up at 8:30ish >_>;;;

Damn you people, don't get me talking SAM numbers!
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 03:50:51
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early January is like, 2 weeks, no worries.
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 03:52:09
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For the most part I don't really fight T bunnies, which is why I use things like foragers mantle and hauby +1
So this long drawn out argument of stupidity wont change my gear sets at all
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 03:53:44
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Sure it will.

Don't use hauby+1 on WS and use osode.
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 03:55:53
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My sam is built for HNM/Jailers/Etc.
If I merit,its generally on birds, and I use polearm. Which if you use osode i will laugh at you
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-25 03:59:19
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I've never had issues using osode to WS on HNM/Jailers/Gods etc.

Like its been stated several times, Y/G/K gets a huge acc bonus which pretty much caps it at 95%.


Unless you are talking attack then I dunno but I would think 4 STR would do more then 12 attack.
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By Fenrir.Dascorp 2009-12-25 04:00:06
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Hades.Exion said:
My sam is built for HNM/Jailers/Etc.
If I merit,its generally on birds, and I use polearm. Which if you use osode i will laugh at you

Please proper English, Can I have it?
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By Hades.Exion 2009-12-25 04:01:08
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The discussion is more or less on attack yes.
He's stating that 1 STR > 15 attack
Which I think is hilarious
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