December 2016 Version Update - Omen Edition

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By Raesvelg 2016-12-13 00:14:14
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Bismarck.Dekusutaa said: »
10-1 is a meh deal. This deal is getting worse all the time

SE has altered the deal.

Pray they do not alter it further.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2016-12-13 00:16:02
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Quetzalcoatl.Raesvelg said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Langly said: »
Ninja... got. ... Options I guess. *shrugs*

Aww, c'mon Langly, you got WSD+10%! On a head that has no other secondary melee stats like accuracy, attack, multi-attack...

And those sweet magic burst feet.


Yeah....... lol
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By Calinari 2016-12-13 00:16:07
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As an aside, real talk:

Can we talk about the lack of the AA trust, for the second month in a row?
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2016-12-13 00:16:08
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Raesvelg said: »
Bismarck.Dekusutaa said: »
10-1 is a meh deal. This deal is getting worse all the time

SE has altered the deal.

Pray they do not alter it further.

At least we don't have to wear clow-
At least only the PUPs have to wear clown shoes.
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By Odin.Psycooo 2016-12-13 00:22:22
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2016-12-13 00:22:46
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Looking at these DRK legs and I'm kinda nervous they are a bit too close to hq argosy path A:

Ignominy Flanchard +3
Legs DEF:148 HP+88 STR+50 DEX+15 VIT+31 AGI+26 INT+40 MND+22 CHR+20 Accuracy+49 Attack+45 Evasion+47 Magic Evasion+84 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Parrying skill +21 Haste+5% "Double Attack"+10% DRK

VS

Argosy Breeches +1
DEF:127 HP+57 STR+43 DEX+11
Accuracy+32 Attack+32 Evasion-11 Haste+5%
"Double Attack"+4%
path A: STR+12, DEX+12, Attack+20

DRK always needs accuracy. These might win out.

Also, the head has 6 SOULEATER. That, paired with a Dacnomania is looking mighty lethal when 9999'd.

Toys :D
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By Boshi 2016-12-13 00:23:06
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20hr to get ki is whack.
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By Asura.Kiyarasubrosa 2016-12-13 00:23:17
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https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/December_2016_Version_Update_Changes

Jesus god this gear. So many best in slot pieces. Omen is going to be a *** to do.
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By Nyarlko 2016-12-13 00:26:53
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Kinda figured that from the new kupons tbh ^^

clvl135 / clvl139

... and ppl kept saying this stuff was still meant to be "starter gear" LMAO


The 10:1 trade-in doesn't sound bad to me at all, given that I was under the impression that we'd HAVE to use the job we wanted to upgrade gear for. 10:1 is better than 10:0 after all.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2016-12-13 00:28:31
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For the people complaining about Beads used for new reforge, they might also come from Omen mobs and be kind of a moot point too, who knows, it's SE.
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2016-12-13 00:30:24
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I... I... I don't even know what to say about this... Are we being punked? This feels too good to be true...
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By Asura.Topace 2016-12-13 00:30:43
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
For the people complaining about Beads used for new reforge, they might also come from Omen mobs and be kind of a moot point too, who knows, it's SE.
I really hope so. I hate doing dragons and was saving beads for aeonic. I don't want to have to spend them on this.
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2016-12-13 00:36:03
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Nyarlko said: »
Kinda figured that from the new kupons tbh ^^

clvl135 / clvl139

... and ppl kept saying this stuff was still meant to be "starter gear" LMAO


The 10:1 trade-in doesn't sound bad to me at all, given that I was under the impression that we'd HAVE to use the job we wanted to upgrade gear for. 10:1 is better than 10:0 after all.

At least I can trade those WHM cards into DNC ones.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2016-12-13 00:38:56
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It's kind of fair this way. How many times do the Epeo RUN/Idris GEO/Aegis PLD get stuck playing only their job for their groups/ls. At least its not like Job Points.
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2016-12-13 00:40:12
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
It's kind of fair this way. How many times do the Epeo RUN/Idris GEO/Aegis PLD get stuck playing only their job for their groups/ls. At least its not like Job Points.

Oh, no, don't get me wrong. This is absolutely amazing. I just wish they would do something to reward people for taking a variety of jobs instead of the same ones over and over again.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Raesvelg 2016-12-13 00:42:05
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Asura.Ivlilla said: »
Oh, no, don't get me wrong. This is absolutely amazing. I just wish they would do something to reward people for taking a variety of jobs instead of the same ones over and over again.

Careful what you wish for. Last time they tried that, we got Voidwatch.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2016-12-13 00:45:25
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Are servers up yet? Can't login, but the update was only 2.5h. Not sure what's up.

edit: oh nvm, it probably hasn't been 2.5h yet.
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By Verda 2016-12-13 00:53:37
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Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Also, THF (appropriately) made out like a bandit, what in the *** is that head/body/legs

The legs are good but almost wondering if Samnuha Tights are still better due to STP and I'm fairly certain Lustratio +1 subligar still beat it for rudra, might win for stacked mandalic tho, the body with TA 7% tho is really good but you also miss capping DW from Adhemar, but it also doubles as the best now stacked rudra body. The head though... it has no attack but in every other way is amazing. If you cap pdif with support it's doing 2.3k more damage according to the spreadsheet for stacked WS than Adhemar +1, having that much of a boost from one item slot is crazy. Solo though it'll be less effective due to no attack. Still I'm not complaining it's amazing all around every job got way more than we expected.



Also the Nusku Shield is really nice for RNG sub WAR and wow at Nisroch Jerkin, if you're standing at trueshot distance that should be a very beastly body piece for Jishnu's Radiance.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-12-13 00:55:30
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By Rooks 2016-12-13 00:56:59
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Honestly, this feels like the most FFXI update in a long time.

Lots of sidegradey/situational pieces, some really valuable new pieces without disrupting the top of the food chain too much, and we're back to 20 hour waits.

WELCOME BACK, FFXI, WE MISSED YOU.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-12-13 00:58:33
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ambuscade still missing +2 skirmish stones :(
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By Asura.Beatsbytaru 2016-12-13 00:58:42
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New items from the Guild vendor that sell for over 1 million gil.

Probably tied to the new guild gear quest, or Omen.
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By Siren.Obysuca 2016-12-13 00:59:32
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I really hope when SE said you can solo/trusts for the +2, that they didn't mean "but only if you have the top tier gear", since not blm or sch + no gear for blm or sch since aby, so can't nuke for crap + not on Asura = not getting anything better than Ambuscade gear.


Also, can we talk about how SE put the Besieged scores back for servers last night, but didn't do crap for Siren years ago, when we all know that we wouldn't have lost if maintenance didn't happen? lol
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2016-12-13 01:13:48
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Question: can you get the KI for Omen once every 20 hours, or only once every 20 hours after you spend it? Wondering if you can stack them like you could old Remnant's Permits and enter twice within a short time.
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2016-12-13 01:15:17
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Question: can you get the KI for Omen once every 20 hours, or only once every 20 hours after you spend it? Wondering if you can stack them like you could old Remnant's Permits and enter twice within a short time.

I wanna know exactly what it's gonna cost to upgrade gear. How many successful runs, on average, per piece
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-12-13 01:20:01
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New mats at the guild are 1.1mil a piece and seem to go into 105 synths
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2016-12-13 01:20:41
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Sylph.Jeanpaul said: »
New mats at the guild are 1.1mil a piece and seem to go into 105 synths

That better make the most delicious doughnut anyone has ever tasted.
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By Ulthakptah 2016-12-13 01:22:03
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Verda said: »
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Also, THF (appropriately) made out like a bandit, what in the *** is that head/body/legs

The legs are good but almost wondering if Samnuha Tights are still better due to STP and I'm fairly certain Lustratio +1 subligar still beat it for rudra, might win for stacked mandalic tho, the body with TA 7% tho is really good but you also miss capping DW from Adhemar, but it also doubles as the best now stacked rudra body. The head though... it has no attack but in every other way is amazing. If you cap pdif with support it's doing 2.3k more damage according to the spreadsheet for stacked WS than Adhemar +1, having that much of a boost from one item slot is crazy. Solo though it'll be less effective due to no attack. Still I'm not complaining it's amazing all around every job got way more than we expected.



Also the Nusku Shield is really nice for RNG sub WAR and wow at Nisroch Jerkin, if you're standing at trueshot distance that should be a very beastly body piece for Jishnu's Radiance.
Pillager's isn't the thf set I want tons of triple attack on. Skulker's should have been the set for that. Pillager's had some Critical already and could have easily been made 4/5 for best in slot stacked, but of all of the pieces the body barely squeaks in for best in slot, and the the head clearly wins despite either of them not having any attack. Yet lots of accuracy because of all those times we miss with sneak attacks. I really don't get what they were aiming for with this set. Dual wield on the gloves that augments trick attack? What? Why?
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 01:24:16
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White mage also made out like a bandit it seems. Thsts a really sick upgrade to the Theo hands.
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By Asura.Anybody 2016-12-13 01:25:21
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My reaction to the Omen gear update....

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