More QQ About Abyssea~

You were calling someone gimp when you dont have kitty pants for your sam is all.

Majority of people who can equip them and have been playing for more than a couple years have kitty pants. I got mine after only 3 weeks of unlocking sky access since nobody needed.

Did u even read the post I quoted? I said nothing about his gear, just that if he`s afk burned all his jobs to 80 then they`re bound to gimped skill wise are`nt they.

Cal's right

You aren't losing anything. You're trading cruor for exp. The other ally members you mentioned are doing MORE THAN YOU ARE AS KEY ***. Your logic is like you walk into a grocery store and because you walked 100 steps you feel entitled to the grocery store giving you free food.

Bottom line if you're so butt-hurt about trading cruor for exp then DON'T DO IT. No the ally lead/key *** is NOT entitled to the contents of brown chests. If you don't like that and think cruor isn't worth mass amounts of EXP then take your I want everything for nothing mentality elsewhere.

All I need is for the cat to drop 2 pairs of pants and I`ll have some, but he`s always been a tight kitty for me.

You are in essence losing money because everyone else is GAINING money and you are not.

Also, you're still putting words in my mouth. I am not blaming the alliance for my lack of skillups, I am simply stating facts that I'm not GETTING any, and would therefore have to go out and spend alot more hours outside abyssea getting them. Do not twist my words

Key whoring is one thing, key whoring in a party where you have to spend mass amounts of actual keys - negative profit. Or are you simply refusing to see that the regular people are in fact getting more beneficial aspects out of it than the box ***? skillups, levels, merits, cruor/money. I don't see one negative thing in there for you guys. AT ALL.

cruor isn't really gil unless you AH the items for very low gil..oh noes!!! and who the hell brings ic wings to exp abyssea? or eats 100k red curries? wtf is this..i dont even..? lol and you aren't eating any of those or using those meds if you're chest ***...

How are you not making gil if you`re lootìng all the sellables?

Besides, if you`re that botherd, don`t key ***

You are getting gil in Crour while the chest *** isnt because he is losing crour in keys.
I know its such a hard concept to understand, but if you sit down and think about it for abit maybe you'll grasp this concept.Well goodluck to you.

Not saying chest *** is entitled to stuff, nor that it's hard work. But any good abyssea pt needs a full-time chest ***, so the argument is null & void about alli members are doing 'more' or 'less' than the chest ***, they are simply fullfilling different roles needed in a successful abyssea pt.

Nuff said, I don't see why people get hyped up about it so much. Level don't really matter. I wouldn't want chest ***'s fighting & wasting time not opening chests. Only advantage I could see about having a Lv80 over a Lv30 is if they can throw a random cure out or sleepga out here & there..

/comfort, Give it a few years ill be considered gimp too no doubt, I think every other mnk or blm on sylph has hikazu hara ate or macha coat except me 4 yrs and waiting. I wonder if ill get either before 2014. :D

cruor = gil, I am sorry you are not capable of seeing this.

one only needs to go out of their way to spend said cruor to make a buttload of gil. end of story.

People are gaining cruor, you are not gaining cruor, are in fact losing near twice as much as others have gained = extreme negative profit.

selling the 'sellables' are helping us try to break even with it. have you payed any attention to the main concept at all?

no real reason to be that big of a douche about it lol...ok so every visit you can spend cruor to NPC stuff for like 8k gil at most for the most expensive item...but they are all rare, so its VERY VERY slow process.....you can EASILY farm more outside of abyssea..

Well then simply don't leech exp in abyssea. Obviously you're doing it for a reason. If its simply for gil then that's truly pathetic. Not everyone spends their cruor in exchange for a pathetically low amount of gil. I'd rather hold onto it cause new add ons are coming out soon with new abyssea zones. If I need gil I'll go out and farm for a while. Cruor is pathetically easy to obtain. EXP is incredibly hard to come by outside of abyssea. You do the math.

You're trading goods for a service. It's basic economics.

Being a key *** is insanely easy. Obtaining cruor is insanely easy. Any one of those dds would gladly gear up a low job and trade places with you. Cause everyone knows key *** is the *** job of the alliance. Free exp in exchange for cruor. People line up outside the doors to sign up for that spot. And they won't *** and moan like others would about "But I'm losing cruors which can be exchanged for a very small amount of gils" lol get a grip on reality.

Yea, you wanna aby burn your subs while getting paid for it

Edit: Aby gear was only profiable when people were stupid enough to spend 1mil + on it

how am I being a douche? I'm just being the same to you as you are being to me. Being subtle.

how was i being a douche to you? hell i never directed any of my posts at you lol...

If someone lets me level a job from 30 which is normally VERY slow within 2-3 sessions while contributing effectively zero outside of opening boxes anyone could do, I'm not going to *** about having to use some of my abundantly available resources to achieve this.

Just saying.

It's mah party I'll lootwhore if I wan't tooo!

Reverting back to the "don't do it then" argument hmmm? Can't find anything else to say? "Don't like the box openers taking up some small bits of money to break even? then just don't join"

I find what you said really funny though. Perhaps YOU need to do the math...

30 stacks of keys burns through in an AoE spam party = 360 keys = 180,000 cruor

you know what you can get with 180,000 cruor?

Buy gloves for 3k cruor apiece and then npc it for ~7k apiece.

180,000 cruor = ~420,000 gil

yea lol, cruor so doesn't mean gil. it just takes a little bit of effort and going out of your way to get it. that's so freaking hard...

one doesn't need to do abyssea for money, one does abyssea for experience. duh. thing is, regular people are earning money while getting experience. hurrah! box openers are going in key debt. not only have to spend essentially 420k on keys, but you don't even earn cruor/kill to make up for it. i'd like to see 180 cruor boxes drop to break even, but hey, maybe that's just me...

so... you're earning about 500k gil per Lv.75-80 party, more if you go back after dumping merits and... we earn... what? -400k?

haha yea right.

box *** are so awesome arn't they? we just take the unfairness for not having to buy low level gear in our already-crammed inventories and grinding them up in MMM or something. we even get less experience than you too... hmm....

Lud is not being a douche.

You are getting a taste of your own medicine... the douchy kind D:

so if you ONLY buy gloves for this example, you have to buy 3 per visit (1 of each set), which is 9k cruor, which you have to repeat 20 times to spend this 180k cruor...thats a *** LOAD of effort if you ask me, considering all of the travel time and time lost in abyssea just buying the items and going back and forth...not really worth the effort especially for those that save their cruor for the 2m drink.

Ok lets use your busted *** math. 180k cruor. Your math is based on the assumption that you will recieve ZERO cruor back. Which is truly an amazing feat. I'd love to see footage of someone obtaining ZERO cruor in a 4 hour abyssea pty. Before abyssea I can guarantee you 420k gil was not gonna get you 30 free levels. You get 80k cruor back? So you truly think 100k cruor is worth more than 30 levels? You WOULDN'T have gotten those levels if it wasn't for that alliance in abyssea. Definitely not in 4 hours. Maybe over the course of two weeks of constant grinding outside of abyssea. In which you would have spent way more time obtaining those levels. Time in which you could have INSTEAD spent farming up MUCH MORE than 420k gil. You got any more busted nonsensical logic to throw around? I'd love to devour it.

Don't like it? Don't do it. U mad? Keep being ungrateful for the free exp that just got handed to you. Otherwise maybe go out and solo up those 30 levels you just got thanks to the work of 16 lvl 80s. See how long that takes you and get back to me. Honestly I would happily spend 180k cruor per abyssea pty in exchange for 30 free levels on a low job. I wouldn't *** and pretend like I was important either.

Are you even reading what you're typing? It's like you only see every other word and fill in the rest with craziness.

I am working under the assumption, no the FACT, that key *** START OUT with 0 cruor/kill for a VERY long time. Yes, we eventually get some with silvery light. About, say, 4 hours into the party give or take zone.

But really are you reading anything in this thread? Yes, we go in there for experience. I openly said this in my last post. You are ALSO going in there for experience. I am not debating this. You getting exp, I'm getting experience, we both getting experience. This thread does not =/= experience.

Yes, I'm getting ~20-60 levels in abyssea. You are also getting roughly the same amount of experience getting from ~75-80. This is not in dispute. So stop bringing it up, it's getting you nowhere and making you look idiotic.

The REAL issue of this thread is do the key *** deserve the gold chest items? Yes. Because YOU are earning cruor, while we are NOT, so to make up for that we are getting ITEMS. is this so hard to understand? is this concept so difficult?

The people who complain about not making gil off Abyssea parties are the same people who do campaign to make gil.

It really takes 4 hours to a leech to start recieving any exp? IDK its a genuine question btw.