So What Is Up With The Anti-pup Movement?

My fursona is Nicki Minaj.

Seriously though, taking PUP to 30 next time I leave Abyssea and taking it all the way.

Gonna make Austar help me farm Chloris.

I'll move to Fenrir to join the cool kids, we can form the FFXI Special Olympics Squad, BLUs, DNCs, and PUPs only. Everyone else will be like, "Wow we should have seen the light, they just trio'd Provenance Watcher"

Megatron don't got ***on this

make novi do it :(

those are all the three worst jobs in the game.

You forgot DRG.

I know, that's why it was my idea!


Only their Wyverns are invited

I think most people don't play Puppetmaster because they simply don't have the skill necessary to play it. >.> Same can be said about Blu and Drg a bit. There are some jobs that require you to have certain skills/gear to play at least decently. Yes Voidwatch groups have kind of settled into this phase of you want certain jobs to have the best success of winning, but like most everything else in this game, there's a point where it can be done with almost anything. People just don't like to try new things sometimes sadly and it kind of keeps some aspects of the game boring, for me at least.

We've gone over this before.

1.) Exceptional players are good at whatever jobs they play and are capable of taking hybrid/disadvantaged jobs to new heights

2.) Bad players are bad at whatever jobs they play, but have more room to budge on "less complicated" jobs.

Dragoon is complicated since when?

Completely missed that. Yeah, what?

Managing 3 gear sets is pretty extreme

you'll never be as extreme as this though

It's not complicated, but a VERY small handful take advantage of their various defensive subjobs. I love to solo DRG/Blu for example. I haven't tried a Mage sub @ 99 (unsure as to the best one tbh, I'd wager it's still /Blu for defensive capabilities, low mp cost/fast cast spells) but yeah, every nob grabs an Ereptor/Patentia/Vogius and goes /Sam hur dur. Stardiver annoys me as Drakes took me a while to get back in the day and no, outside, it's 2nd best :(

Told you you were a furry.

As awesome and hilarious as this whole thread has been this one jumped out at me:


There are many routes to mastery of a craft; practice is only one of them. You should maybe consider FFXI an opportunity to develop your critical thinking skills.

Hey come on! lol

PUP/mnk still has more procs than MNK /._./~~~~~~|_______|


I dont even know why i started looking things up :|

I just wanted to say one thing about this "...master of none" comment. First of all I wouldn't even call PUP a hybrid job. Is BST or SMN a hybrid job? I don't consider them to be, they are pet jobs. The biggest difference is that our pets are far more versatile than a summon or a jug/charmed pet.

I would say if PUP was a master of anything other than versatility it would be sheer damage dealing using either ranged or melee puppet (depending on the application). People always told me when I was leveling pup in the beginning that I was just a crappy monk with a pet that had poor AI. Those issues have all been solved. With the release of Stringing Pummel which trumps any monk ws by a long shot and is on par with (and depending on how good your ws set is, pulls ahead of) Victory Smite.

I like pup, need to level it still as I have a Verethragna... but the title of this thread confuses me. Was there ever a -pro- pup movement? Since the job came out it's been shat upon. Reminds me of the post-penta "nerf" "lol drg/thf" days.

You're all super pups...is there a consolidated source of puppetmaster information anywhere? I have all my af3 +2'd already D:

This totally happend to me. ^^ I was like, can I come pup, and my LS said no come war (stupid Ukon) and 2 of the 6 nms of the jueno tier 1 paths we did had pup proc. /facepalm