What Job Makes The Best Puller? (apart From BRD In Merits)

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What job makes the best puller? (apart from BRD in Merits)
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 Valefor.Poetry
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By Valefor.Poetry 2009-04-27 17:42:37
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I usually average about 90-93% accuracy with Slug Shot on birds. I use sushi fulltime.
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-04-27 17:43:28
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Mytoy said:
Your 20-60 dmg swings aren't going to keep up the the real DDs 100-200+ dmg swings.
We've taken that into consideration.

Unless you have a BRD, your usefulness as a COR is greater in the pulling department than the DD department.


Ever used Joyeuse? It really is alive. Low delay too. So while a..DRK may do 200dmg a swing, a Cor with joyeuse can have 2 attack rounds if not more by then and at 60 dmg a swing thats 120dmg not counting if it double attacks which is 180dmg. I do like to think my cor does decent enough dmg to DD in merit ptys. If your's doesnt..thats ur thing. Iv seen cor that only sub whm b/c they only want to be support, iv seen some that only sub nin b/c they only really want to support and pull and then others that sub rng b/c they like dealing dmg. Its all personal preferance imo. I personally do not pull as cor and in any pty that wants me to, i refuse unless theres no other "pulling" job.
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By Odin.Nineball 2009-04-27 17:45:18
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Any job that can claim a mob and run it back to the party as fast as possible for maximum exps
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 17:45:59
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I like to sub Nin for an excuse to use my new Suppa. :x

I've only subbed Whm twice: Lv10-15 in the dunes (even then, was usually /Dnc lol) and when unlocking Detonator with my Nin friend (he doesn't have /Whm or /Dnc, so had to keep us safe).

I've actually never subbed Whm in a party, and I'm working on /Rng now. I've just been /Nin for like, ever. >.>;
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By Siren.Evilunknown 2009-04-27 17:46:29
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Merrit Party: Bard all the way ! (/nin)

If I'm not puller on Bard , I'm not going xD

Thief puller is a lot funner though :)
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-27 17:46:51
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User submitted image
just gotta post it.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 17:47:50
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I like that photo. It shows how even SE agrees we aren't supposed to be the best pew~ers.

Oh and go *** yourself, Lu. :3
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 17:50:46
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Yeah, we didn't even get the cannon shell guns. Like wtf, we're *** PIRATES. ; ;
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By Ramuh.Kaithran 2009-04-27 17:58:37
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In a PT with BRD, Cor shouldn't be pulling. Heck, in my totally biased opinion, you shouldn't even HAVE both a BRD and a COR, because you really only need one of them in meripo. There's always plenty of SAMs, RNGs, etc LFG on Ramuh. Unless I was in a bind, I wouldn't get more than one "pulling and support" job.

With a BRD, RNG would be out-DDing you as a COR, if it's worth its weight. I don't run parsers or take pictures to enlarge my epeen, so I have none to show. But I know plenty of end-game CORs, and none of them would dare ask me as a rng to pull in a meripo with them. It just doesn't make sense!
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 18:00:46
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Not having a Cor and a Brd in the same party!?

You nuts, yo.
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By Valefor.Poetry 2009-04-27 18:03:56
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Kaithran said:
In a PT with BRD, Cor shouldn't be pulling. Heck, in my totally biased opinion, you shouldn't even HAVE both a BRD and a COR, because you really only need one of them in meripo. There's always plenty of SAMs, RNGs, etc LFG on Ramuh. Unless I was in a bind, I wouldn't get more than one "pulling and support" job.

With a BRD, RNG would be out-DDing you as a COR, if it's worth its weight. I don't run parsers or take pictures to enlarge my epeen, so I have none to show. But I know plenty of end-game CORs, and none of them would dare ask me as a rng to pull in a meripo with them. It just doesn't make sense!


I'd prefer to have 2 cor and 1 brd then load up on DDs. I'm not saying that Cor shouldn't pull if there's no bard. I'm saying I personally wouldn't merit as a COR without another brd or cor puller.
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By Ramuh.Kaithran 2009-04-27 18:05:04
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My favorite PTs are SAM SAM SAM RNG(me) BRD/COR RDM. Just personal preference.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 18:07:37
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In my Cor+Brd meripos, we kill so fast I just do Chaos+Cors roll for more exp. I like Sam roll though, it sped up unlocking Detonator so fast. :x
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-27 18:08:21
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bards have Archer's/hunter prelude...I love 'em
also they pull so I dont have to.
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-27 18:09:18
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Kaithran said:
My favorite PTs are SAM SAM SAM RNG(me) BRD/COR RDM. Just personal preference.


how would a JP phrase it... yeah right

kawai sou~ *pat-pat*

cor / brd / rdm / 3x DD (preferably sam war rng) will pwn your 3 sam setup only my personal experience :x
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 18:09:35
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In a meripo, you shoudn't need (like you'll even get ._.) a prelude for your Racc.
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-27 18:10:53
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Haseyo said:
In a meripo, you shoudn't need (like you'll even get ._.) a prelude for your Racc.


i lol'd irl... *hands haseyoa good brd* now go help out pull while he buffez teh rangaz!
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By Ramuh.Kaithran 2009-04-27 18:11:56
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8/8 Archery merits FTW. I dont remember the last time I got a prelude...
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 18:15:05
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I can't pull, I have nightmares of it still!
On top of that, I was 73, I didn't even have Ni yet. Ohhhh gawd. ; ;
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By Ramuh.Kaithran 2009-04-27 18:15:50
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Haseyo said:
I can't pull, I have nightmares of it still!
On top of that, I was 73, I didn't even have Ni yet. Ohhhh gawd. ; ;


Oh you poor thing!
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By Unicorn.Tavlov 2009-04-27 18:42:15
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blm FTW! <.<
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-27 18:43:53
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Haseyo said:
I can't pull, I have nightmares of it still!
On top of that, I was 73, I didn't even have Ni yet. Ohhhh gawd. ; ;

lol noob
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By Fairy.Lethewaters 2009-04-27 19:21:31
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Honestly it depends on the player. I've been in PT's with BRD/NINs that don't cast shadows and link the Tokyo Bullet Train. Half teh time they needed a raise because they never made camp or to the healer.

You can have a decently geared SAM outpull a COR or RNG (Been there done that). I even PT'd once with a PUP that was an AWESOME puller.

It depends on the person's skills as a puller. Some can, others shouldn't even leave their Mog House.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-27 19:26:12
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Tavlov said:
blm FTW! <.<


You guys suck until 75. Fact.
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-04-27 19:28:19
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Coming in abit late into the thread but for the record:

COR isn't the most ideal puller for the simple fact that their best guns are 600 delay and Quick Draw is restricted to 2 charges with a minute recast each. 50 seconds with capped merits, 45 seconds with Mirke that contains QD recast augment. Not to mention they are more busy at a distance shooting and running between melees and mages for buffs every 60 seconds to really keep a chain going past 5.

A Peacemaker is a viable option but cannot trump the simple effectiveness of a thief. For quick pulls i'd recommend a Leo Crossbow +1, which has a really low delay.
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By Caitsith.Monsterrain 2009-04-27 22:45:18
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ppl who think cor is an ideal puller obviously havent lvled cor. Can a cor pull...sure. Is it optimal for anyone in the pty? i dont think so.

pulling is a 3rd or maybe even 5th priority for cor...if you go /mage.