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Test Server Update - Puppetmaster
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2011-10-15 14:47:43
I see no issue with the Mana Booster change since before now it just shortened the universal spell timer, which we won't need to worry about as much anymore.
Besides that, I like it because fastcast will do more than just mess with recast timers, it means faster casting cures as well which will be incredibly nice for certain situations. :x
 Asura.Jadecc
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 221
By Asura.Jadecc 2011-10-18 01:54:54
By Inuyasha 2011-10-18 01:57:00
are the new adjustments on the test server yet? I want has play with my WHMbot....i want has bad D:
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 185
By Sylph.Anariodin 2011-10-18 03:15:58
So basically you have a job that can wear some good DD gear with the ability to have a partial pocket-mage with higher cures than most jobs and seperate cast times like a normal. If the master can tell the puppet distance from mob, its almost like dual-boxing with a bot that auto-WHMs for you.
Asura.Jadecc
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 221
By Asura.Jadecc 2011-10-18 04:28:10
yea, i'll be able to put my whm mule away! well.. maybe keep it around for ohshit circumstances but whm mule can't phalanx you! :D
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 185
By Sylph.Anariodin 2011-10-18 04:31:30
So puppet can cast Cure V, Stoneskin, and Phalanx with the same setup? and supposedly will be smarter than most WHMs with use of Cure V vs Cure IV
 Bahamut.Juggalo
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 12
By Bahamut.Juggalo 2011-10-23 21:25:12
I'm liking this.
Bahamut.Mizuharu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1988
By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2011-10-23 22:38:01
Just don't say you're loving it on the official forums otherwise the other jobs will start QQing and we'll get gimped.
Cerberus.Wojo
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 416
By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-10-28 10:50:49
loldevs said: Recast times for spells will be set up independently for each category (such as enhancing/enfeebling magic)
*Cure, regen, status ailment recovery spells will each have their own recast times
I hope this means that he will nuke instead of spam drain/aspir
Bismarck.Stfutaru
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 93
By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2011-10-28 11:54:10
So just started testing PUP out, the update is sick...
Just eyeballing right now:
Reactive Shield did around 50-53 damage.
Volt Gun did around:
21-23 damage with 1 thunder maneuvers.
31-36 damage with 2 thunder maneuvers.
67-76 damage with 3 thunder maneuvers.
Shock Absorber maybe somewhere between 350-400.
Replicator with 3 wind maneuvers give 10 shadows.
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Cerberus.Wojo
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 416
By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-10-28 11:59:00
Bismarck.Stfutaru said: »So just started testing PUP out, the update is sick...
Just eyeballing right now:
Reactive Shield did around 50-53 damage.
Volt Gun did around:
21-23 damage with 1 thunder maneuvers.
31-36 damage with 2 thunder maneuvers.
67-76 damage with 3 thunder maneuvers.
Shock Absorber maybe somewhere between 350-400.
Replicator with 3 wind maneuvers give 10 shadows.
O.o
Cerberus.Wojo
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 416
By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-10-28 12:00:57
Please comment on the casting abilities that change seems the most significant.
 Asura.Citag
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2011-10-28 12:02:23
I want this so bad. I would totally play again... For at least a month or two lol
Bismarck.Stfutaru
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 93
By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2011-10-28 12:04:25
Used a water maneuver, the puppet casted Regen IV then casted Protect 5 right after then Poison 2. Then I used an ice maneuver and it casted a paralyze right after Poison. Without any maneuvers, it seems to prefer casting Enhancing magic. Still trying to figure out the AI right now...
Also, Magic Mortar does 365 damage.
The Red Mage frame casts Stoneskin and Phalanx on you not the White Mage frame lol...
The Harlequin frame remains as useless as ever. It doesn't even cast spells anymore (probably bugged).
Cerberus.Wojo
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 416
By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-10-28 12:13:45
Thats awesome.
Asura.Jadecc
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 221
By Asura.Jadecc 2011-10-28 16:28:20
now they need to make it easier to switch between the frames, wouldn't mind bringing out rdm frame for SS/phalanx, then switching back to whm frame if i didn't need to re-attatch all my attatchments
Leviathan.Suljin
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 69
By Leviathan.Suljin 2011-10-28 18:22:17
You don't, just put the rdm frame up, equip it with all the gear you can put on it that you want the whm frame to have full time, then leave the few that cannot fit due to capacity off and the top left most slots blank. You can change heads then w/o taking off the attachments and then quickly add the few attachments that were limited by capacity originally on and activate again. Its what I do to quickly cure my blm frame if I have to DEA (auto dies, change to whm head, DEA, full cure itself, deactivate, change to blm head, activate and ready to nuke again)
Edit: I want more info on auto casting!!! make my last 20 mins at work go by faster please! lol
Lakshmi.Galith
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 427
By Lakshmi.Galith 2011-10-28 18:41:52
Just don't say you're loving it on the official forums otherwise the other jobs will start QQing and we'll get gimped.
Pup will get heavy striked if you do!
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9265
By Odin.Eikechi 2011-10-28 19:01:32
ALL of this.....just sounds, so amazing
 Ragnarok.Zargosa
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10
By Ragnarok.Zargosa 2011-10-28 20:21:15
So, anyone actually been able to figure out which frame and what triggers dread spikes <.<? Tried dif frames/combinations and no such luck yet =/
By Inuyasha 2011-10-28 20:38:38
now they need to make it easier to switch between the frames, wouldn't mind bringing out rdm frame for SS/phalanx, then switching back to whm frame if i didn't need to re-attatch all my attatchments They need to make it so we can have two puppets/pets out at the same time :|
Just don't say you're loving it on the official forums otherwise the other jobs will start QQing and we'll get gimped. Pup will get heavy striked if you do! yea...lets not do that :| I havent gotten to play with the PUPdate yet...dont want a repeat of not getting to play with Heavy Strike D:
Ragnarok.Zargosa
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10
By Ragnarok.Zargosa 2011-10-28 21:02:51
Hmm, Couldn't get Spiritreaver/Stormwaker to cast dreak spikes but Spiritreaver/Harlequin cast with 2x Dark maneuvers. The guy post in the SE forums was right though, that's a fun combo kinda like DRK with tier 5 nukes, especially if you're sporting some sweet victory smite goodness to chain light with Magic Mortar.
Bahamut.Mizuharu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1988
By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2011-10-29 01:35:46
They need to make it so we can have two puppets/pets out at the same time :|
No. Two pets? Yeah, sure. Two Automatons? No. Think about it. You only have three maneuvers up at a time. Means you'd have to mix up maneuvers or gimp out one automaton to make the other better.
Having two automatons out at the same time has always been and will always be a stupid idea that should never go beyond just the Empress having two automatons.
By Inuyasha 2011-10-29 04:27:51
They need to make it so we can have two puppets/pets out at the same time :| No. Two pets? Yeah, sure. Two Automatons? No. Think about it. You only have three maneuvers up at a time. Means you'd have to mix up maneuvers or gimp out one automaton to make the other better. Having two automatons out at the same time has always been and will always be a stupid idea that should never go beyond just the Empress having two automatons. We can dream cant we Q_Q
but yea, well aware of the possible flaws especially when one fire heavy frame would be instantly gimped by one automoton triggering the regain attatchment while the other is prepping a WS D:
or WHMbot and BLMbot out together...it just wouldnt work....but i have dreams Q_Q
By runeghost 2011-10-29 15:11:43
There was, if I recall, in EverQuest (years back) a 2 hour or equivalent ability that sent a half dozen mini pets (imagine 5 "Deux Ex" clones that lasted 1 minute if they DID survive) and all did mimic of whatever it did.
that would be a fun meritable 99 super 2-hour that would be fun to watch...
-R
Bismarck.Selka
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 95
By Bismarck.Selka 2011-10-31 14:26:06
So, anyone actually been able to figure out which frame and what triggers dread spikes <.<? Tried dif frames/combinations and no such luck yet =/ I heard something about how your Spiritreaver needs to have hate. Have you tried this? I would try it on DC mobs as well as EM mobs to see if mob level matters. It makes sense to me that dread spikes would work in the same way that regen spells are programmed. Go solo Cuelebre!
VIP
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-01 20:28:52
| 11-01-2011 08:09 PM | | Camate | | Community Rep |  |
| Howdy! Sorry for the delay on this information about puppetmaster!
Quote: Will anything be done about the order of magic casting (Enhancing magic > Status Ailment healing magic > cure-related magic)?
Quote: There seems to be a bug where the automaton tries to use Erase to cure Sleep.
Quote: Depending on the frame/head setup, magic and ranged attacks are not taking place properly, is this a bug?
Quote: It seems like the frequency of Cure V use has gone up, but at times when Cure VI would be better, for example, when I use HP boosts in Abyssea, my automaton casts Cure V. How is this being determined?
Quote: Soulsoother behavior after being called is quite strange. Sometimes it just stands there not casting and the reactions are very slow.
Quote: Is it possible to make the reaction time for Shield Bash faster? I can’t stop WS and magic. Actually, I don’t think it even reacts to magic…
Quote: Why is my automaton pretty much only casting Silence for enfeebling magic, especially on notorious monsters that resist it?
These adjustments and bug fixes will be implemented with the next test server update. |
Cerberus.Jafah
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 35
By Cerberus.Jafah 2011-11-01 23:59:48
This update cant get here fast enough :/
By Inuyasha 2011-11-02 00:04:45
Quote: There seems to be a bug where the automaton tries to use Erase to cure Sleep. "oops" fits best here i think.
Quote: Why is my automaton pretty much only casting Silence for enfeebling magic, especially on notorious monsters that resist it? they give u a better AI...it turns into the first NPC....where it silences anything that has MP :| betting that was the issue there
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9265
By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-02 00:27:49
Speaking of the Shield Bash note: Anybody having an issue with shield bash in general? It seems my puppet won't really bash AT ALL with barrier module on...
| 10-14-2011 06:14 PM | | Camate | | Community Rep | |
| Howdy!
Our puppetmaster adjustments are being finalized, so I would like to make an announcement before we implement these adjustments to the test server.
Usually we make these kinds of announcements at the same time as the changes are implemented in the test server, but it’s going to take us a little bit longer to implement our adjustments, so we decided to make the announcement first.
Attachments - Increased the effect boost based on number of maneuvers for the following attachments
Strobe/Inhibitor/Flame Holder/Steam Jacket/Auto-Repair Kit II
- Lowered the required capacity from 2 to 1 for the following attachments
Reactive Shield/Scope/Schurzen/Volt Gun
- Attachment adjustments as follows
| Attachment | Adjustments |
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| Reactive Shield | Added a bonus to the amount of spike damage dealt based on the frame’s skill level | | Mana Booster | Effect changed from shortening recast times to that of a fast cast effect | | Drum Magazine | Lessened the negative impact to accuracy | | Replicator | Increased the number of shadows based on the number of wind maneuvers used | | Shock Absorber | Bonus added to the amount of damage absorbed based on the frame’s skill level and the number of earth maneuvers used | Armor Plate
Armor Plate II | Effect changed from increasing defense to decreasing the amount of physical damage taken | | Analyzer | Tripled the amount of damage that can be mitigated | | Hammermill | Shield Bash will be 100% accurate when Hammermill is equipped | | Volt Gun | Removed the level dependence and added a bonus to additional damage based on the frame’s skill level and the number of thunder maneuvers used | | Heatsink | The decrease in the probability of overload will be based on all maneuvers instead of just fire maneuvers | | Damage Gauge | Shortened the recast time for cure spells | | Eraser | Changed so that only light maneuvers are consumed to fix multiple status ailments |
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Automatons - Re-examine automaton logic
- Add/adjust spells
- Recast times for spells will be set up independently for each category (such as enhancing/enfeebling magic)
*Cure, regen, status ailment recovery spells will each have their own recast times - The following spells will be added
Protect (I-V)/Shell (I-V)/Stoneskin/Haste/Phalanx/Erase/Absorb-Attri/Dispel/Dread Spikes/Addle/Regen IV
*Phalanx and Stoneskin will only be used on the master
*Protect, Shell, and Haste will only be used on the master and party members - Tier IV elemental spells will be added to Stormwaker Y-700
- Cure IV or Cure V will be chosen based on remaining HP
- Weapon skill adjustments
- Magic Mortar will have a set amount for its minimum amount of damage
- Sharpshot automaton adjustments
- Distance adjustments will be removed for ranged attacks
Puppetmasters - A job ability that removes automaton status ailments will be added (Lv30 recast time: 1 minute)
These changes will be implemented in the test server in a while, and we plan on making final adjustments based on feedback once these changes are implemented in the test server. Thank you! |
| 11-07-2011 01:43 PM | | Camate | | Community Rep | |
| Puppetmaster adjustments cont.
• Flame holder
We feel that the current stats and functionality aren’t reasonable when considering the space needed to equip this attachment. With this said, if we were to make so the power is shared with other attachments (for example, making it so it doesn’t consume a Fire Maneuver, as was suggested), we would have to increase the capacity cost to be higher than it is currently.
However, since I believe that attachment uses differ from person to person, instead of the above adjustment, we are looking in the direction of adding a different attachment that has similar stats to the Flame Holder so you will be able to choose the proper one to use based on the situation. (The addition of this attachment is planned for after the level cap increase to 99.)
Also, when there are changes made with Test Server updates, we also update the content posted in the “Testing In Progress” forum, but the development team and QA team have been testing and making adjustments up to the last minute, more than you can imagine.
As a result, there may be times that we cannot announce the specific changes right away and we appreciate your understanding. (Don’t worry, we aren’t trying to hide anything!) |
I will be adding this, along with other job updates for October, to the compilation of job adjustments for October topic.
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