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Just wondering is all..
Fenrir.Tool
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-23 10:55:04
If anything I found that PUP's greatest power lies within its utility. How many jobs do you know can jump between melee, ranged, slashing, piercing, healing or nuking in a single job?
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-23 10:55:42
Fenrir.Tool said: If anything I found that PUP's greatest power lies within its utility. How many jobs do you know can jump between melee, ranged, slashing, piercing, healing or nuking in a single job? BLU? lol
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-23 10:57:19
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Fenrir.Tool said: If anything I found that PUP's greatest power lies within its utility. How many jobs do you know can jump between melee, ranged, slashing, piercing, healing or nuking in a single job? BLU? lol
Aw ***.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-08-23 11:00:49
RDM!
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-23 11:02:24
Well if you wanna compare RDM dagger and club use to RNG frame and PUP melee power then go for it.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-08-23 11:03:22
I was thinking more Sword and Dagger.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-23 11:04:20
Sylph.Hitetsu said: I was thinking more Sword and Dagger.
Ah, was covering the spectrum of melee damage types. All three of which RDM can do of course~
Alexander.Meowryu
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By Alexander.Meowryu 2010-08-23 11:24:23
Randomguy said: You just said that BLM frame does not equal BLM. But here ya are, comparing PUP to BLM...
So any job that does magic damage is automatically compared to black mage in your mind? That's neat.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-23 11:32:00
Alexander.Meowryu said: Randomguy said: You just said that BLM frame does not equal BLM. But here ya are, comparing PUP to BLM...
So any job that does magic damage is automatically compared to black mage in your mind? That's neat. Weren't you comparing it with BLM though?
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By Alexander.Meowryu 2010-08-23 11:39:13
Was simply stating reasons as to why you shouldn't compare it to BLM.
Just because you shouldn't compare them doesn't mean it's beyond impossible to compare two different jobs.
You could compare BLM to WAR if you really wanted to, doens't mean you should.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-23 11:43:09
comparing Stormwaker or Spiritreaver to an actual BLM is like comparing a Prius to a Ford F-150...
Sure, they both get you from point A to point B, the Prius has its advantages and the 150 has its advantages, but in the end, one is a hybrid while the other is sheer muscle...
if that makes any sense.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-23 11:43:43
Alexander.Meowryu said: Was simply stating reasons as to why you shouldn't compare it to BLM.
Just because you shouldn't compare them doesn't mean it's beyond impossible to compare two different jobs.
You could compare BLM to WAR if you really wanted to, doens't mean you should. I don't really understand what point you are trying to prove :/
this: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: comparing Stormwaker or Spiritreaver to an actual BLM is like comparing a Prius to a Ford F-150...
Sure, they both get you from point A to point B, the Prius has its advantages and the 150 has its advantages, but in the end, one is a hybrid while the other is sheer muscle...
if that makes any sense.
more or less.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-08-23 11:44:50
It's like comparing *** to pussies. You can *** them both, but they are entirely different.
Ya..
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By Bahamut.Ceviilla 2010-08-23 11:46:14
SERJ!
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-08-23 11:46:41
WHAT?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-23 11:47:27
Bahamut.Serj said: It's like comparing *** to pussies. You can *** them both, but they are entirely different.
Ya.. O.O
i wonder which one is the shitty one.
>.>
<.<
well i guess it depends on if they cleaned and bleached the backdoor.
aaaaanyway.
don't most people who have pup leveled have blm leveled?
this is a no-brainer for me and i'm a galka and I don't have time for these silly "magic" things.
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By Alexander.Meowryu 2010-08-23 11:47:50
Ramuh.Vinvv said: I don't really understand what point you are trying to prove :/ this:
Point being BLM /=/ PUP as they are different jobs. That should be obvious to everyone. They each have their positives and negatives. That is all.
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By Bahamut.Ceviilla 2010-08-23 11:48:21
What happened to apples and oranges?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-23 11:48:54
Alexander.Meowryu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: I don't really understand what point you are trying to prove :/ this:
Point being BLM /=/ PUP as they are different jobs. That should be obvious to everyone. They each have their positives and negatives. That is all. I did a bit of an edit on my post right before yours:
aaaaanyway.
don't most people who have pup leveled have blm leveled?
this is a no-brainer for me and i'm a galka and I don't have time for these silly "magic" things.
if you leveled pup to 75+ with intentions of it being more than what it is i don't know what to tell you.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-23 11:49:11
Alexander.Meowryu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: I don't really understand what point you are trying to prove :/ this: Point being BLM /=/ PUP as they are different jobs. That should be obvious to everyone. They each have their positives and negatives. That is all. so everyone, stop comparing BLM to PUP and focus on their strengths and weaknesses SEPARATELY!!!
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-08-23 11:50:03
Bahamut.Ceviilla said: What happened to apples and oranges?
Oh, that too .__.
Btw I have class at 2 till 3:45 so I have to jet soon (for lunch)
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By Fairy.Terror 2010-08-23 11:55:39
Cerberus.Billgoku said: Who out there is tired of people downing this job? I know we aren't them big fancy sams or drks and what not, but I know quite a few darn good pups and we do our job very well. I for one can deal myself around 800 or so melee, and pumping my puppet up he can do around 1500 with a spell.
Again, who out there, that has "enjoyed" leveling this job, think its rather annoying to catch all the negative vibe? Just a show of hands, no flaming or what not.
Were not fancy DRKs?
I always out DD DRKS on my pup. So what ppl should be saying now is lolDRK
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-23 11:56:15
Fairy.Terror said: Cerberus.Billgoku said: Who out there is tired of people downing this job? I know we aren't them big fancy sams or drks and what not, but I know quite a few darn good pups and we do our job very well. I for one can deal myself around 800 or so melee, and pumping my puppet up he can do around 1500 with a spell.
Again, who out there, that has "enjoyed" leveling this job, think its rather annoying to catch all the negative vibe? Just a show of hands, no flaming or what not.
Were not fancy DRKs?
I always out DD DRKS on my pup. So what ppl should be saying now is lolDRK its all the "loljobs" that get airtime.
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By Sylph.Terrorized 2010-08-23 11:56:32
Fairy.Terror said: Cerberus.Billgoku said: Who out there is tired of people downing this job? I know we aren't them big fancy sams or drks and what not, but I know quite a few darn good pups and we do our job very well. I for one can deal myself around 800 or so melee, and pumping my puppet up he can do around 1500 with a spell.
Again, who out there, that has "enjoyed" leveling this job, think its rather annoying to catch all the negative vibe? Just a show of hands, no flaming or what not.
Were not fancy DRKs?
I always out DD DRKS on my pup. So what ppl should be saying now is lolDRK
Used wrong ID lolz i dont post much.
Alexander.Meowryu
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By Alexander.Meowryu 2010-08-23 11:57:36
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Alexander.Meowryu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: I don't really understand what point you are trying to prove :/ this: Point being BLM /=/ PUP as they are different jobs. That should be obvious to everyone. They each have their positives and negatives. That is all. I did a bit of an edit on my post right before yours: aaaaanyway. don't most people who have pup leveled have blm leveled? this is a no-brainer for me and i'm a galka and I don't have time for these silly "magic" things. if you leveled pup to 75+ with intentions of it being more than what it is i don't know what to tell you.
I don't see how you could possibly think there is a correlation between people having both blm and pup leveled? Ambiguous post is ambiguous.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-23 11:58:27
I was leveling BLM for awhile but not for a sub. I'm more of a melee PUP, works better for me.
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By Alexander.Meowryu 2010-08-23 12:00:39
Spiritreaver pretty much blows until 75+ and you max out optimization/get pet MaB+ gear/merit magic skill anyways. In a standard party setting you should be using Sharpshot anyways.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-23 12:02:22
Alexander.Meowryu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Alexander.Meowryu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: I don't really understand what point you are trying to prove :/ this: Point being BLM /=/ PUP as they are different jobs. That should be obvious to everyone. They each have their positives and negatives. That is all. I did a bit of an edit on my post right before yours: aaaaanyway. don't most people who have pup leveled have blm leveled? this is a no-brainer for me and i'm a galka and I don't have time for these silly "magic" things. if you leveled pup to 75+ with intentions of it being more than what it is i don't know what to tell you.
I don't see how you could possibly think there is a correlation between people having both blm and pup leveled? Ambiguous post is ambiguous. Hence the word "most", as in "not all".
also, lolpup.
it's not my fault people are stupid and level only pup/melee job and try to do backline ***.
and actually I should have said "most should"
rather than "most have"
my bad.
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By Alexander.Meowryu 2010-08-23 12:09:07
k
Ramuh Vinvv
Nice uh.....gear and subjobs you have there. Really blew me away.
By Randomguy 2010-08-23 12:12:19
Alexander.Meowryu said: k
Ramuh Vinvv
Nice uh.....gear and subjobs you have there. Really blew me away. You shouldn't be throwing in the gear/subjob card if you can't follow it yourself.
But then again, who knows what DNC gears up as anyway?
Who out there is tired of people downing this job? I know we aren't them big fancy sams or drks and what not, but I know quite a few darn good pups and we do our job very well. I for one can deal myself around 800 or so melee, and pumping my puppet up he can do around 1500 with a spell.
Again, who out there, that has "enjoyed" leveling this job, think its rather annoying to catch all the negative vibe? Just a show of hands, no flaming or what not.
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