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 Alexander.Haruku
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By Alexander.Haruku 2010-02-19 15:27:36
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okay so i have Raja's ring and Ulthalam's Ring but i seen this new rings around idk if anyone else has asked but are Lava's ring and Kusha's ring which give def+6 Acc+12 and att+ 6, would this be better to equip as a "THF" or just stay with rajas and ulthalam's?
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By Fairy.Shiyo 2010-02-19 15:29:25
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Lava kushas!
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By Ragnarok.Reze 2010-02-19 15:46:18
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Yeah... makes it difficult to choose. I'm actually using Rajas/Divisor. Divisor gives 6 acc and 3 attack when your level is divisible by 5. So basically like using only one of those rings, but you still get the 5 STR, DEX, Store TP and Subtle Blow from Rajas... So I have no idea... nooooooo idea which would be the best combo for which particular situation. Any help or math crunching would be greatly appreciated if anyone knows of any!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-19 15:50:13
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If you give me your average DoT/WS split, current gear, and target, i could do a little math, but I can almost guarantee rajas/divisor to win
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By Remora.Laphine 2010-02-19 15:52:04
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i don't think lava kusha thing is much of an upgrade, if one at all.

Rajas helps in a great number of ways. Str is worth more to a meleeing thf than any other job in the game (lowest base damage). 5 stp will always reduce the number of hits to ws by 1 for thf (bd/sk sure does at least). Subtle blow is situationly nice as well.
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By Hades.Hatekhaos 2010-02-19 15:52:11
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Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-02-19 15:52:46
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Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?

Absolutely, you wouldnt wear a thumb ring on your pinky
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By Hades.Hatekhaos 2010-02-19 16:06:56
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Phoenix.Airbag said:
Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?

Absolutely, you wouldnt wear a thumb ring on your pinky



So which gear in the game u use on your pinky? ...
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-02-19 16:09:53
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Rajas is almost always the correct choice.
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By Fairy.Shiyo 2010-02-19 16:24:19
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There is NO WAY IN HELL rajas/ulths is better than lavas/kushas, LOL.

Stop being like "RAJAS IS ALWAYS BETTER", it's annoying, use your brain for once and stop copying + pasting what people have shoved down your throat to believe.
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By Asura.Patriclis 2010-02-19 16:26:16
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It's all situational. If you're soloing something i'd recommend rajas just for the Subtle blow on it. If you need more acc, Kushas/Lavas etc. For most things i think Rajas/Divisor is best though
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-19 16:27:05
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Fairy.Shiyo said:
There is NO WAY IN HELL rajas/ulths is better than lavas/kushas, LOL.

Stop being like "RAJAS IS ALWAYS BETTER", it's annoying, use your brain for once and stop copying pasting what people have shoved down your throat to believe.
Rajas isn't always better, but it's damn near always the best ring available for melee jobs if you aren't a MNK or PUP. I guarantee Rajas/ACC is better than Lava's/Kusha's for THF. The value of Ulth versus another ACC ring may be debatable though.
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-02-19 16:27:47
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Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?


Everybody knows. It goes

Suppa/Brutal
Rajas/xxxx

Any other way of placing them is unacceptable!
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By Fairy.Brenda 2010-02-19 16:28:02
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Is this assuming you have 8/8 Combat merits for said job?
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By Fairy.Shiyo 2010-02-19 16:32:48
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Rajas is better for MNK than it is for thf. Store TP is COMPLETELY worthless for DW jobs, especially ones who are acc starved. If you don't even have 8/8 combat merits for said job, you damn well better NOT be meleeing in a rajas.
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-02-19 16:36:26
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Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?


Everybody knows. It goes

Suppa/Brutal
Rajas/xxxx

Any other way of placing them is unacceptable!
This times over 9000. Always looks funny when people wear it as

Brutal/Suppa
xxxx/Rajas

Like, out of place, you know?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-19 16:36:35
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Shiyo, you forget that mnk is pretty much DW (two hits per round). Store TP isn't totally worthless, it's just less worthwhile than it is for 2hand jobs, but it still helps. Rajas isn't better for mnk than thf. The fstr alone for TP'ing will be more of an increase to thf than any other melee in TP phase. That being said, thf will most likely be using acc food to begin with unless it's something like nyzul (in which case acc will be capped either way).

Rajas/uthl, maybe not, but rajas/a real ring, then yes. Uthl in general is trash.
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-02-19 16:37:53
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Ragnarok.Zephyran said:
Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?


Everybody knows. It goes

Suppa/Brutal
Rajas/xxxx

Any other way of placing them is unacceptable!
This times over 9000. Always looks funny when people wear it as

Brutal/Suppa
xxxx/Rajas

Like, out of place, you know?

It utterly bugs the ***out of me lol. I can even see Veg hasnt got it the right way. makes me scream ORRZZZZ.
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By Fairy.Vincentius 2010-02-19 16:37:59
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Fairy.Shiyo said:
There is NO WAY IN HELL rajas/ulths is better than lavas/kushas, LOL.

Stop being like "RAJAS IS ALWAYS BETTER", it's annoying, use your brain for once and stop copying pasting what people have shoved down your throat to believe.

Wrong. Stop trying to be different.

Que the bent fork pic.
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-02-19 16:38:03
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Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Is it true that it matters which finger or which ear you have a ring or earring on?


Everybody knows. It goes

Suppa/Brutal
Rajas/xxxx

Any other way of placing them is unacceptable!


Oddly enough that is the way I have to have my earrings/rings equipped or it just doesn't feel right.
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By Hades.Hatekhaos 2010-02-19 16:39:31
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Sorry not trying to derail the thread but is there a reason why it matters which ring/earring goes where?
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-02-19 16:40:10
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Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Sorry not trying to derail the thread but is there a reason why it matters which ring/earring goes where?

doesnt matter at all >.> other than looks I guess
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By Asura.Patriclis 2010-02-19 16:40:14
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fairy.Shiyo said:
There is NO WAY IN HELL rajas/ulths is better than lavas/kushas, LOL.

Stop being like "RAJAS IS ALWAYS BETTER", it's annoying, use your brain for once and stop copying pasting what people have shoved down your throat to believe.
Rajas isn't always better, but it's damn near always for melee jobs if you aren't a MNK or PUP. The value of Ulth versus another ACC ring may be debatable though.

Rajas is only "zomg" for the fact that you get some accuracy with store TP on it. If in fact the rajas didn't have Store TP most people would be smacked for using it, since accuracy rings or things such as the Iota ring would be better. The main reason for getting rajas ring is not really for TP for most jobs, but as a macro piece/WS piece (i.e Sneak attack, or blade: Jin).

Most poeple just choose to throw it in their TP slot out of sheer laziness without doing the math to see if the store TP will even benefit them (I.E if it brings them from an 8 hit build to a 7hit or a 7hit to a 6hit etc). If for example after 7 hits you have 100% TP exactly, and you equip a Rajas, only to get 103.5% TP after 7hits, it's a complete waste.

As for having both STR+DEX on 1 ring, it's still just 3.33 acc and 3.33 attack for 2handers and 2.5 for single handers. So something like an Iota ring, or divisor ring would beat it out.

As for the crit rate from the 5dex on the ring, it's such a low increase it's not even worth arguing about unless you're going for some sort of crit hit build.
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-02-19 16:40:28
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Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Sorry not trying to derail the thread but is there a reason why it matters which ring/earring goes where?


It means everything, equip it backwards and you might cause a black hole to appear...
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-19 16:41:24
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Yes, when your rings are in proper alignment, the stats are boosted tremendously.

Rings/Earrings 101:
Pimp GOES FIRST

Exception: C-C-C-C-Combos

For example. Brutal for non DW jobs better be on the *** left, UNLESS, you have a bushi connecting with the tip of your black tathlum.
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-02-19 16:41:59
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Hades.Hatekhaos said:
Sorry not trying to derail the thread but is there a reason why it matters which ring/earring goes where?
It's our collected OCD, it looks neat when it's a certain way, and looks like "wat" the other way.

It hurts our brains when we see people wearing them backwards.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-19 16:43:19
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As for having both STR+DEX on 1 ring, it's still just 3.33 acc and 3.33 attack for 2handers and 2.5 for single handers. So something like an Uthalams ring, or divisor ring would beat it out.

You know nothing of the game mechanics.

3 acc 3 attack losing to Ulthalam's ring? You're forgetting something. STR doesn't only give attack. It also raises your FSTR, which is like raising the DMG rating of your weapon.
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By Hades.Hatekhaos 2010-02-19 16:43:58
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Thanks for the info guys ^^
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By Asura.Patriclis 2010-02-19 16:48:22
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Fairy.Vegetto said:
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As for having both STR DEX on 1 ring, it's still just 3.33 acc and 3.33 attack for 2handers and 2.5 for single handers. So something like an Uthalams ring, or divisor ring would beat it out.

You know nothing of the game mechanics.

3 acc 3 attack losing to Ulthalam's ring? You're forgetting something. STR doesn't only give attack. It also raises your FSTR, which is like raising the DMG rating of your weapon.

Ok veg you're making me faceplam here... at myself XD

-uthalam's ring +Iota Ring my mistake, been up since 3:00AM lol

and just throwing this out there: Im not saying tping in Rajas is bad, it's a decent ring, and I'd rather see someone TPing in that then like, a ruby ring or a flame ring. My point is that it's not the best and other things beat it out if you're willing to put in the time and the inventory space. Most people just opt to be a little lazy and main it since it's not that big of a difference between the rajas and most other combos.


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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-02-19 16:51:50
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Well my DRG would be 7 hit without a Rajas, so obviously, since DRG is awesome, Rajas is infact the centre of the universe.
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