Are You Playing In FFXI-HORIZON Server?

How is this "a 75 era server" if its got thousands of behind-the-scenes changes that you need to "play to find out whats changed"?

Base exp on highest target mob has acted on *or* highest target who has acted on the mob, instead of just highest target who has acted on mob. Bonus of adding a potential downside to a PL aggressively overcuring.

I totally understand that, but that observation isn't pulled out of thin air. Whether it's misrepresented or exaggerated, the game largely does feel more like a single player RPG than it has in the past. I'm not even talking about mercs, 6-boxing, bots - just the game experience in general. There are aspects of the game that just don't really exist anymore, and that's fine it's 20 years old. Some people just want a different type of gameplay and they clearly aren't getting it from retail. Even if that was just 2 years ago, where there was arguably more to do anyway.

If there are "aspects of the game that just don't really exist anymore" its very likely because the playerbase has "aspects of real life that just didn't exist back then"- ie responsibilities, families, and other life moments that result in most people I game with not having 3+ hours in a single session available most days. I joke that 20 years ago I lost ppl in XP parties b/c of their parents, but today I lose 'em b/c of their kids.

I'll never understand those who think legacy/private/75cap servers will bring back all the feels from those days. We've changed too much and the memories are more tied to the people and what we were then than they are connected to the content style.

There are people who leveled BST solo the first year of NA launch and prior, and then there is everyone else. No sane person who went through that PTSD inflicting experience would ever want to do that again. It was fun and a great unique experience to have back then, but just the thought of leveling any job from 25-70 with pugs sounds miserable today.

I'm not sure I agree with the thin air part, it absolutely seems pulled out of thin air in many cases. When someone says "I haven't logged into retail for 4 years, but it's xyz", that's more or less pulled out of thin air or repeated from someone else saying something, it's not founded in experience.

That said, like I said earlier, I think a lot of the problem is that the content that is more difficult, more punishing, and community oriented is locked behind a lot of progression. In 75-cap and previous generations, you could walk out of some cities and have difficult content, so that aspect is certainly lost. I can see how someone could play for a while, largely ignore the newer content like Odyssey and Sortie, and draw conclusions, but it doesn't mean these conclusions are correct.

If you prefer the game in a state where you die walking to Jeuno, then that is reasonable, I can understand that. If you prefer a different type of game and experience, that's fine. If you are going to talk about how the game is easy, soloable with trusts, with no community and you haven't done any of the updated content, thats what I'm pointing out as lacking any basis.

Kinda? Retail has no sky/sea farming anymore, everything is instance popped with little grinding required to get to them, what grinding is left is just the rp/rng variety, i think some just like that slower path to NMs or whatever, cant say i agree too much since some of my worst memories are in sky/sea but the appeal is out there for some. There's also just not as much alliance content anymore, for better or worse, you have/had dyna and omen, and that's about it.

On retail it's actually fun, all the QoL changes make it a blast to go around stomping monsters.

Virtually all the nostalgia people have for 75-era can still be obtained by simply making a 75 cap character and running around with them. Level Sync allows friends to come goof off with you and reexperience dealing with Goblins in Yhoatar Jungle, chasing down AF quests, hunting coffer keys and so forth.

I should clarify that I meant level 25-70 in 75era / private server. Today retail it's fun to do, yes.

There's significantly growing exp penalty starting when you are 10 lvls over the synced lvl.

The Korroloka solution is simple: nerf bat Wild Card into the ground whenever they get around to introducing COR. That two hour cooldown will prevent spamming.

This was more along the lines of what I was referencing. Also, call me a masochist, but I actually enjoyed leveling - slowly working up through new abilities, gear, and all that comes with it.

Leveling was hit/miss I think id probably find it more fun where everyones still trying to find new/alternate camps, once the pop died down and level sync became the norm leveling became a lot less fun as it was just a set pattern for the most part to 75, and then again with merit camps, but when you had a good camp with good conversation since game speed is relatively lax compared to 99/ilvl period, leveling can be pretty relaxing

you already can't do this. jesus christ this dude is DELUSIONAL.

why do you care so much?

LOL, so you are literally the clown that follows me to every and any HorizonXI youtube video and harasses me in the comments. "touch grass" must be your signature phrase. You literally go to every single horizonXI video and attack anyone saying anything negative about the game. Even though people can be on anonymous accounts we can see who they are in the end lmao.

Also, the two linked threads are not Horizons forums or discord. I dont go near those as I have 0 interest in interacting with them. I only ever interacted with videos that had click bait titles "THE BEST FINAL FANTASY XI SERVER!" when the game isn't even FFXI, its a private server. The two linked threads you placed here are just a smokescreen, you didn't even link individual posts.

I specifically said in the first thread (because my name was brought up!! someone actually mentioned me in the thread so of course I can respond) that I didn't want to ***up the thread. The second thread is on a SPAM FORUM, not even related to the game. He couldnt even link the actually post I made saying I didnt want to ***up the thread, no because that goes against his narrative.

This guy is the most unhinged person I've seen in XI history, he is so filled with hate and cant help himself but to personally attack people literally everywhere. What a sad "man child" as you put it.


I have no idea who you are, but I dont see anything in my posts that makes me unhinged. Compared to someone crusading against bots in 2023. "SimonSes" on here was also debating the topic with them in those click bait titles, is he unhinged too? The guy
"1 2" is this clown here, in case you were wondering which of his 100 anonymous accounts you were arguing with.

To clarify what the other guy said: This doesn't work in Horizon. You get nothing if the mob isn't claimed when it dies. No exp, no drops, nothing.

BLU cleave gonna suck. I probably wont last that long though.

@draylo, everything you post makes you seem unhinged.

the threads in question are specifically for the private server horizon, i don't know what you are trying to say but it's false.

haven't commented on youtube since like 2004. just because multiple people have the same general thoughts it doesn't make them the same person. nor would i waste my time watching FFXI videos on youtube, of all the content i have no idea why someone would consume that. private server or retail this is quite possibly the worst game to stream or watch that has ever existed. i love the game, but yeah.. no..

once again, just insane amounts of delusion

Of course, I pointed this out to Brixy on his channel when he made a "Super fast EXP solo method!" on his channel. I asked, isn't the whole point of the server you have to team up with people? Then of course he dismissed me as a troll instead of answering, but he did say he "didnt have time to play so he soloed." That was the whole point of trusts... These people are such hypocrites.

You are so full of it man lol, it is so obvious to see its you everywhere you post. You have this distinct hatred in all your posts, dont even try. The only thread for horizon was the one I was mentioned in and I responded to the people who were talking about me. I purposely said I didnt want to continue in that thread. The second is in a spam forum that was created before this server was ever even a thing.

Conveniently as hes mentioned that mysterious guy responds on youtube a few min after this post.

draylo is literally on every single video about horizon making baseless claims/gaslighting/crying that people are playing horizon. thoroughly entertaining if u want to see someones addiction spiral into absolute delusion...he literally bashes it on EVERY SINGLE VIDEO then gets destroyed with logic. 10/10 would read again.

Nobody is trying to beat into quitting players that "Odyssey is fun." Its a shame they leave, but breaks are actually quite healthy. Its actually those 75 cap thumpers who have blinders on, who haven't touched the game in over 5 years or more since Abyssea. They are creating this fabricated image of retail and combining Abyssea w/trusts and thinking thats how the game is. They claim its "too EZ", just read the picture I posted a few pages ago, most of those people haven't even played the game in ages.


Not eating at me, I still enjoy myself or I wouldn't be here. I think the game can be so much more, but if everyone is echoing false misinformed opinions it can affect the game population overall. That is my opinion and I think its generally correct. That is the main reason I try to be at least a voice of reason for the game, I still call out SE when its warranted. I also personally cannot fathom why anyone would find a 75 era server "fun", thats just me though and I understand some may have the opposite opinion. I personally think that a major reason they find it "fun" is because theres supposedly a lot of people on it... Hype is a real thing and it influences opinions, their little ad push seemed to have done its job. Otherwise, why weren't all these people having so much fun on every other private server before this? They are all the same with all the same problems.


Sure its nice to have an opinion where you are care free. Maybe one day when you want to go back to retail it wont be there and these people will be celebrating that they've finally gotten their wish. I personally have a lot more love for XI and want to see it do well. Thats mainly the drive behind most of my posts in these topics, I think its important but thats also my opinion.

its a shame he deletes some of his posts that are so delusional he cant really defend after refuted. those are the juicy ones

The best part is, it doesn't even register with them what they are doing. Till you point it out, then they call you a troll becasue you made them look stupid lol

I bet if you logon they are soloing right now.

Another fake account with two posts in this thread, lol.


Never deleted any comments, not once.


Detroyed with logic? lol, I'd like to see that. You keep using the same buzzwords every post you make, its so easy to see its you lmao.

This is also the type of jaded player that talks crap about the game as hes playing on a dinky private server. You clearly got bored after doing everything, and thats fine. Why didnt you try the other private servers then if that content was so good? People are so easily hyped up with ad pushes. I can't believe people aren't even discussing that aspect, they literally hired streamers to push a two decade old game lmao

you can literally just search horizon and see him crying on every single video. then he makes a wild claim, it gets refuted and he disappears and jump to another video. literally just search horizon. im not joking hes actively shitting on horizon on every single video then cries in the comments that horizon players are shitting on retail when theyre just trying to have fun playin a game he doesnt like... trying to tell ppl their opinion on what they like is wrong because it doesnt align with his own. what a weirdo

what fake account?

you know everyone can see it's you on the diff accounts right?

I've played numerous private servers, while playing retail at the same time... they are two separate games. The audience for 75 era is different from 119 era. cry more