Woolwich (Terror Attack) UK

They're doing a wonderful job of ruining their own image, don't feel bad for them. Instead, observe the slow motion trainwreck with a nice drink on the rocks.

You seem to forget for many of these immigrants who live in their closed off sections of the Western World that things aren't as peachy as we make them out to be. They remain inside a bubble, closed off from the boons of the West because of long standing traditions and xenophobia towards outsiders. It's like the Hasidic Jews I see every day or the Albanians.

Infact, its worse for the children of immigrants because they see success around them bought and paid for at their nations expense and that often fuels ill will towards the country they reside in.

Violence against others is never justified - beheading a man no less - but when opportunity is starved, people feel they have no hope and are ignored by the powers that be it's no surprise when someone starts taking Allah a bit too seriously and blows ***up or kill people to be heard. Once you've got life goals, feel that you can accomplish something and are properly educated your likelihood of embracing some extremist ***drops significantly.

You've got more important ***to do than listen to some Imam or Pastor rail about how decadent things have become and that only you can carry out the will of God. You start to ask why that Imam or Pastor is doing a whole lotta talking but doesn't seem to be putting on the suicide vest himself.

It's attention seeking and it transcends Islam. Islam is just the flavor of the month and the convenient boogeyman to avoid speaking about the socioeconomic issues that lead many young men to think themselves martyrs for some cause they don't even fully understand. It's a multifaceted issue that leads to these types of acts and dropping it all on Islam is disingenuous.

The 2 men with the knifes/cleaver wouldn't allow any men near the Soldier, only women.

Don't lump all Muslims with these extremists. You've just proved Xueye's point with that statement. Each time an act of terror occurs there is a backlash of abuse that the ordinary Muslims experience, all caused by people's inability to identify that terrorism is carried out by a rebellious and non-conformist group of Muslims. It's comparable to lumping the whole of Christianity with the Westboro Baptist Church.
It's incredibly sad to see the reputation of a whole race get dragged through the mud thanks to a handful of members who share extreme views. In conclusion, how dare you say 'don't feel bad for them'? Shame on you.

Thank you! I was a little shocked by the fact that no one would confront the two men. I thought it was just another example of people's disregard for others when it could possibly threaten their own well-being. I can't imagine people just standing around while a man is slaughtered like a pig on a busy street.

Frankie Boyle:

"I think the EDL wanted to make a point about Muslims not respecting British law, and what better way to do that than to fight the police?"

They're doing a wonderful job of ruining their own image, don't feel bad for them. Instead, observe the slow motion trainwreck with a nice drink on the rocks.

A terrible murder, yes. In the name of oppression and religion and extremism and such, too.

This is a normal, awful, political statement, though; terrorism, this is not.

Each time I see terror, I pray that it's not a Muslim. The poor folk don't need any worse of an image.

I refuse to believe that a peaceful religion like Islam could have anything to do with such a thing.

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I must admit one thing i thought when i saw it was a black man who had done this, was that there would likely be unjust retaliation for it by idiots nationwide against black ppl.

I honestly cant belive something like this would happen in the way it did,it shows us how some imigrants percieve our society and nation (UK) and in my oppinion there should be stricter border control and there should definatley be a stronger emphasis on religious perspective in our citizenship tests.

I must admit one thing i thought when i saw it was a black man who had done this, was that there would likely be unjust retaliation for it by idiots nationwide against black ppl.

I honestly cant belive something like this would happen in the way it did,it shows us how some imigrants percieve our society and nation (UK) and in my oppinion there should be stricter border control and there should definatley be a stronger emphasis on religious perspective in our citizenship tests.

I bet UKIPers are going nuts! LOL!

You realize this didn't happen in the US?

Every thread is a gun control thread to some people. They live in fear of the gov't breaking down their doors and stealing their guns.