Claims his people die daily In Iraq.(hes clearly english from his accent)
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Woolwich (Terror Attack) UK
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Woolwich (Terror attack) UK
I dont know if you have seen or heard of what happened yesterday in england (Woolwich) but a man claiming to be muslim attacked and beheaded a british soldier in broad daylight in a busy street in midday, absolutley unbelivable.
Claims his people die daily In Iraq.(hes clearly english from his accent) Angry, hopeless people fueled by religion and disenfranchised will lash out in this manner.
Our kneejerk desire to call everything a terrorist attack is starting to become grating.
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Beheaded...? Really?
How terribly gruesome! I read this last night. I can't believe it took police officers twenty minutes to respond, and wasn't a military barrack nearby?
Sad.
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lmfao British military? Didn't know they had one lol. Chumps.
Bahamut.Daehan said: » lmfao British military? Didn't know they had one lol. Chumps. This is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard on these forums..... I feel temporarily dumber for having read that,until it gets flushed from my short term memory
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Bahamut.Daehan said: » lmfao British military? Didn't know they had one lol. Chumps. How delightfully enlightened.
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Bahamut.Daehan said: » lmfao British military? Didn't know they had one lol. Chumps. You'll find they're the guys your guys target due to your lack of basic knowledge.
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I'm did religion. I can!!
Bahamut.Daehan said: » lmfao British military? Didn't know they had one lol. Chumps. Those chumps founded the SAS, one of the most successful special operations units in existence, and single-handedly changed the face of military combat forever.
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/clears throat
So, that lady that stepped in when the other bystanders wouldn't... please lets not turn this into who has the best military - a guy got his head cut off show some respect and ignore that *** moron
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The soldier was Lee Rigby aged 25 from Manchester, England. He had a 2 year old child. He was targeted and brutally killed because he was a British soldier.
*Edit* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329516/Lee-Rigby-pictured-Face-innocent-drummer-25-butchered-Woolwich-Muslim-fanatics.html Please excuse the particular newspaper the article is in but this link seems to have more information than the BBC website. Carbuncle.Shayala said: » The soldier was Lee Rigby aged 25 from Manchester, England. He had a 2 year old child. He was targeted and brutally killed because he was a British soldier. Go on. Why was he targeted? Caitsith.Zahrah said: » /clears throat So, that lady that stepped in when the other bystanders wouldn't... My understanding is that she initially thought it was a roadway incident, as there was a crashed car nearby. She then later realised it was a murder scene when the assailant(s) approached her (and she saw the blood on them.) She then tried to calm them, given the volatility of the situation, and the number of onlookers gathering about. That takes a lot of...courage to do (cynics might think it another term, given the police ended up shooting the assailants to subdue them, but then again cynics would have something to say about the police shooting them anyhow maybe.) Either way, that's an amazing thing to try to do, given there were two of them and their mindset (at the point of confrontation) is unknowable to first-responders, let alone Good-Samaritan citizens. ;_; I would think the same of the camera operator, given the circumstances as well...that's taking a risk of being victim #2.
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: » /clears throat So, that lady that stepped in when the other bystanders wouldn't... what lol <.< *** idiots don't need a reason to kill people - just a meat cleaver and lack of intelligence
the guy in the video has got a s/e london accent - i bet he hasn't even seen outside his council estate let alone another country he talks about A terrible murder, yes. In the name of oppression and religion and extremism and such, too.
This is a normal, awful, political statement, though; terrorism, this is not. Each time I see terror, I pray that it's not a Muslim. The poor folk don't need any worse of an image. Asura.Izilder said: » *** idiots don't need a reason to kill people - just a meat cleaver and lack of intelligence the guy in the video has got a s/e london accent - i bet he hasn't even seen outside his council estate let alone another country he talks about Without seeming like the "ignorant irish racist" I was thinking that as well. I was waiting for an english person to say it first though. Sick, and sickening. I am so sorry for the soldier's family. As for the attacker, I guess twisted, sick individuals do twisted, sick things. It's a shame that their actions affect others, not just themselves.
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: » A terrible murder, yes. In the name of oppression and religion and extremism and such, too. This is a normal, awful, political statement, though; terrorism, this is not. Each time I see terror, I pray that it's not a Muslim. The poor folk don't need any worse of an image. "Terror" "Terrorism" and "Terrorist" are buzz words now a days,nothing more. Fenrir.Schutz said: » Caitsith.Zahrah said: » /clears throat So, that lady that stepped in when the other bystanders wouldn't... My understanding is that she initially thought it was a roadway incident, as there was a crashed car nearby. She then later realised it was a murder scene when the assailant(s) approached her (and she saw the blood on them.) She then tried to calm them, given the volatility of the situation, and the number of onlookers gathering about. That takes a lot of...courage to do (cynics might think it another term, given the police ended up shooting the assailants to subdue them, but then again cynics would have something to say about the police shooting them anyhow maybe.) Either way, that's an amazing thing to try to do, given there were two of them and their mindset (at the point of confrontation) is unknowable to first-responders, let alone Good-Samaritan citizens. ;_; I would think the same of the camera operator, given the circumstances as well...that's taking a risk of being victim #2. I hope she gets some sort of commendation!
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Would like to see Daehan's retort to Caketime's response. Ephexis=correct.
Who can actually argue that everything that happen's in war is correct or legal (who judges what is legal?), but a man beheaded in one of the world's largest and democratically free (lets not forget perhaps the most immigration/inter-racial friendly) city in the world; in broad day light! Now come on! Of Christian Nigerian decent he chose/was influenced into an extreme Islamic form of thinking from a young age. Can that answer for brutal murder of an innocent passer-by? I personally think that he's just lucky we abolished the death penalty, however, I take sollice in knowing that life in one of our prison's for something like this likely means he'll be dead sooner than if put on death row in other countries.
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Savage... sadly noone here is like O.M.G This kinda ish is becoming the new normal... The world we live in huh?
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: » A terrible murder, yes. In the name of oppression and religion and extremism and such, too. This is a normal, awful, political statement, though; terrorism, this is not. Each time I see terror, I pray that it's not a Muslim. The poor folk don't need any worse of an image. They're doing a wonderful job of ruining their own image, don't feel bad for them. Instead, observe the slow motion trainwreck with a nice drink on the rocks.
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You seem to forget for many of these immigrants who live in their closed off sections of the Western World that things aren't as peachy as we make them out to be. They remain inside a bubble, closed off from the boons of the West because of long standing traditions and xenophobia towards outsiders. It's like the Hasidic Jews I see every day or the Albanians.
Infact, its worse for the children of immigrants because they see success around them bought and paid for at their nations expense and that often fuels ill will towards the country they reside in. Violence against others is never justified - beheading a man no less - but when opportunity is starved, people feel they have no hope and are ignored by the powers that be it's no surprise when someone starts taking Allah a bit too seriously and blows ***up or kill people to be heard. Once you've got life goals, feel that you can accomplish something and are properly educated your likelihood of embracing some extremist ***drops significantly. You've got more important ***to do than listen to some Imam or Pastor rail about how decadent things have become and that only you can carry out the will of God. You start to ask why that Imam or Pastor is doing a whole lotta talking but doesn't seem to be putting on the suicide vest himself. It's attention seeking and it transcends Islam. Islam is just the flavor of the month and the convenient boogeyman to avoid speaking about the socioeconomic issues that lead many young men to think themselves martyrs for some cause they don't even fully understand. It's a multifaceted issue that leads to these types of acts and dropping it all on Islam is disingenuous.
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » You seem to forget for many of these immigrants who live in their closed off sections of the Western World that things aren't as peachy as we make them out to be. They remain inside a bubble, closed off from the boons of the West because of long standing traditions and xenophobia towards outsiders. It's like the Hasidic Jews I see every day or the Albanians. Infact, its worse for the children of immigrants because they see success around them bought and paid for at their nations expense and that often fuels ill will towards the country they reside in. Violence against others is never justified - beheading a man no less - but when opportunity is starved, people feel they have no hope and are ignored by the powers that be it's no surprise when someone starts taking Allah a bit too seriously and blows ***up or kill people to be heard. Once you've got life goals, feel that you can accomplish something and are properly educated your likelihood of embracing some extremist ***drops significantly. You've got more important ***to do than listen to some Imam or Pastor rail about how decadent things have become and that only you can carry out the will of God. You start to ask why that Imam or Pastor is doing a whole lotta talking but doesn't seem to be putting on the suicide vest himself. It's attention seeking and it transcends Islam. Islam is just the flavor of the month and the convenient boogeyman to avoid speaking about the socioeconomic issues that lead many young men to think themselves martyrs for some cause they don't even fully understand. It's a multifaceted issue that leads to these types of acts and dropping it all on Islam is disingenuous. I think you're reading into it too much. I'm poor as *** and all I need is a good fap and an hour of trolling and I don't decapitate people just fine. As all things are interpreted differently and as an individual will find their own meaning in things, a window of scope is opened to suggestion. Religion is not the founder of violence. No one religion will proffer aggression to means to an end.
This is NOT a terrorist act. Yet media in current circumstances will portray as such merely because he had different (extreme and wrong) beliefs. I as a friend to many older Muslim's know that this bring's shame upon them, and as Caketime say's, they fear for such incident's because they know they will be branded as a whole. Yes, it happens every day, yes it happens all over the world, yes its wrong. Some narrow minded, uninformed suggestions however bring ppl to go apeshit-looking at u Daehan. Fenrir.Schutz said: » Caitsith.Zahrah said: » /clears throat So, that lady that stepped in when the other bystanders wouldn't... My understanding is that she initially thought it was a roadway incident, as there was a crashed car nearby. She then later realised it was a murder scene when the assailant(s) approached her (and she saw the blood on them.) She then tried to calm them, given the volatility of the situation, and the number of onlookers gathering about. That takes a lot of...courage to do (cynics might think it another term, given the police ended up shooting the assailants to subdue them, but then again cynics would have something to say about the police shooting them anyhow maybe.) Either way, that's an amazing thing to try to do, given there were two of them and their mindset (at the point of confrontation) is unknowable to first-responders, let alone Good-Samaritan citizens. ;_; I would think the same of the camera operator, given the circumstances as well...that's taking a risk of being victim #2. The 2 men with the knifes/cleaver wouldn't allow any men near the Soldier, only women.
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