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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2017-02-12 11:15:13
lol the Stamina Drain was real 'do. I just like to Blood Knight my way through everything. Cherche should know, were in the same LS and I love playing "How much damage can I eat on DRK with or without dieing"
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By Asura.Ina 2017-02-12 11:24:13
Yeah, that's a problem for me. I like having a buffer between me and an enemy so I can set up my next attack with more room for error. This was my issue as well, with the cleric beast i was all "amg get it away from me" and died a bunch. I grew out of it by the time I got to Vicar Amilia, curb stomped her and was like "Wasn't she supposed to have a healing move?..."
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-02-12 11:29:52
My tactic in Bloodborne is pretty much to two hand my axe and use the wide long swings to the stagger the monster as it closes in on me. There's quite a few monsters and bosses that you can knock on their *** if you time the R2 spin attack correctly.
I also like using Ludwig's Holyblade a lot, cause it is beefy. The timing for it is harder than the axe, but it deals more damage/looks cooler.
I also like to use guns, and not just for setting up visceral attacks. The church gun or whatever it's called... the one that shoots two bullets at once, it can deal obscene damage even at low bloodtinge if you buff it with Boneyard Ash or whatever that ash is called. You can literally walk into quite a few boss fights that A LOT of people struggle with, and kill(nearly kill) said bosses with your 10 shots, even at very very low bloodtinge levels.
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-02-14 23:32:41
Contains dialogue from an Ashes of Ariandel NPC.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-03-04 23:03:32
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-03-28 00:20:01
Heh, new boss fight in Ringed City is everything I thought it would be, though I'm sure some people are complaining it's too easy already somehow xD
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-30 15:52:50
But did you get to the second boss fight?
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-03-31 09:37:45
This latest patch nerfed the ***outta Great Magic shield's cast time. It takes like twice as long to cast now. -.-;
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-03-31 13:37:40
Yep. They had to do something to it eventually I guess...
Also this DLC is making me laugh. Just cause it feels like, Miyazaki was like, "Ok, so what way can I setup these areas to make even veterans be like, "OH ***!" lol
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-03-31 19:12:53
Well, that was great fun. Not as short as I feared it would be, but not as long as I would have liked it to be.
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-03-31 20:00:56
Major spoilers in these spoiler tags. Do not click the tag if you have not progressed within The Ringed City DLC and care about spoilers. They are boss fights.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2017-03-31 20:09:21
Dark Eater Midir killed me more times than I am willing to admit, but that was on NG+4 @ lvl 120. Was a pain on Pyro lol
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2017-03-31 20:29:47
Darkeater Midir can suck a ***
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2017-03-31 20:38:31
Seeing someone play with a Shield is always so different for me. Since I have played with Caestus or a small shield for parrying forever lol
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-03-31 20:50:19
Love my shields in Dark Souls. The only times I haven't relied on them heavily was my first playthrough of Dark Souls 1. I have done shieldless playthroughs though, but I definitely prefer to use one if given the option.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2017-03-31 20:53:37
Alright this is giving me a headache, I'm leaving it for now.
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-03-31 22:05:15
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-04-02 18:18:07
Demon Prince - One shot, little estus remaining. *** those meteors. Decently balanced for the 2v1 phase.
Old MonkSpear of the Church - 3 attempts, summoned on the last because *** minmaxed pvpers attacking you with a super painting guardian assisting. Could be fun with thematic builds.
Gael - 3 attempts, First phase was the harder part of the fight for me and used up the rest of my estus. Fight ended in a draw with rewards obtained. 10/10
Darkeater Midir - WIP. Always always always struggle with large non-human bosses.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2017-04-02 18:59:35
Spear of the Church I just summoned for as well, if I want to fight a summoned player I'll use the pre-existing game mechanics for it, don't make that ***a boss, especially aided with a staggering, self healing painting guardian helper.
Demon Prince, can't remember much about, don't remember struggling.
Darkeater can really suck a *** when you're getting used to him, once you get used to his attack patterns he is a lot more manageable but it's a *** move that he is most dangerous at range so you stick by him only for him to fly off, get distance and do his *** ranged attack.
Gael I'm working on, I prefer to ember up but used all mine on Darkeater, he doesn't seem bad, just very erratic.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2017-04-02 20:40:02
As an update Gael is very manageable but at the same time very punishing if he pulls a combo off, if you're prone to panic dodging he is likely to cause problems.
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-04-02 20:45:04
Demon Prince - One shot, little estus remaining. *** those meteors. Decently balanced for the 2v1 phase.
Old MonkSpear of the Church - 3 attempts, summoned on the last because *** minmaxed pvpers attacking you with a super painting guardian assisting. Could be fun with thematic builds.
Gael - 3 attempts, First phase was the harder part of the fight for me and used up the rest of my estus. Fight ended in a draw with rewards obtained. 10/10
Darkeater Midir - WIP. Always always always struggle with large non-human bosses.
The Demon from Below - 9 Tries - Actually most of them spent trying out weakness to elements. Fun fight. I actually kind of enjoyed it more than the later fights.
Halflight, Spear of the Church - 1 try - I got some scrub named Link007 who I merely stagger locked with my Milwood Axe, while ignoring the Painting Guardian. It will throw those shivs at you, and they are ignorable. I later did an offline run, and the NPC Halflight is mad good for NPC fight imo. The offline against Halflight took me about 4 tries, and I had the offline NPC summoned for them as well. I appreciated The Old Monk reference.
Slave Knight Gael 4 tries - I used Great Magic Shield to bypass most of the hardship. The times I died were due to surprises at phase changes mainly, or not gauging/getting lucky on a GMS recast. Cast be long.
Darkeater Midir 6 tries - I got really impatient with this fight because GMS and shields in general can't block everything due to erratic angles/wide long huge from above attacks. I wound up getting extremely lucky on the time that I did kill him. He did his Bloodborne Amygdala clone laser breath move, and it tuckers him out, allowing for free hits out the wazoo. I was clipped by the attack, but lived with 3 HP. But after that I got a full stamina bar's worth of swings on him for free, which basically put him in death range. The next time I hit him, I staggered him for the visceral.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2017-04-03 04:39:56
Out of curiosity what is your NG+ and level? I only ask because you have relative little difficulty compared to me.
I mean, I honestly think it's probably that you're just better at Souls than I am but I am curious to see if there are any other factors.
EDIT: I just beat Gael, actually a super fun fight, even considering how frustrating I did find him. I think the problem I had was at times I was being too greedy, in the end I would just roll through his combos and get a hit or 2 in when he finished attacking.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2017-04-04 18:23:48
I started the DLC with a caster build, lv~105, 30 VIT, 15 END, 60 INT, 25 Faith (for Second ChanceTears of Denial), and enough STR+DEX for the Moonlight Greatsword.
Demon Prince: Gave me a headache. First try I was aggressive about surviving, so I used up most of my Estus before the 2nd phase. Took out like a 1/3 of its HP. Then I started getting impatient and trying to min-max my fight (read: trying different approaches, taking huge risks trying to reach the 2nd phase and dying in the 1st phase with almost a full stock of Estus).
By the third time (I think) I reached the 2nd phase, I decided to melee the boss and found it to be much easier that way.
So phase 1 was annoying (having to pay attention to 2 mobs), while phase 2 was easier with a melee strat (found his attacks easy to dodge).
Spear of the Church: Offline - First try.
The first Painting Guardian ran straight towards me and launched a deadly combo. "These guys mean business". Then the main guy showed up. I hit both and noticed that only hitting the main guy lowered the boss's HP bar, so I figured out how that battle worked.
Now the main guy didn't feel that dangerous, and was pretty dumb at avoiding my Soul Arrows. I decided to try and melee him....nope. NOPE. Parried every single attack with his *** medium-sized shield (such precision), dodged like crazy and never seemed to run out of stamina.. Taking him down with sorcery felt like cheesing him, but too bad for him.
2 PG's were summoned and slaughtered in the process (they healed him at least twice).
After the fight, I noticed that I had the miracle-boosting rings equipped instead of my sorcery rings...(because I decided to try them out against Midir in a previous attempt). Expecting a much easier time if I do this with a sorcery build the next time, but I might try a melee strat for fun.
Midir: This guy was so intimidating, I thought a summon would be necessary.
Took me the longest, but eventually my Soul Spears took care of it.
Gael: Not a difficult boss at all.
I reached the final phase on my first try, then spent a few tries trying different strats and learning the fight (as usual).
I found the first phase to be the most boring. Soul Spears again.
The second phase was easily cheesed with magic. The final phase attacks were easily dodge-able, but punishes greed heavily. Just be patient, and he'll fall down quickly.
All the bosses were done solo.
I was disappointed though that the summon next to the drop just before Midir was no longer there after I killed the church boss. I wanted to at least summon her and see her in action. I got to really learn the fights though, so I think I'll slaughter all bosses with my melee character the next time I play through the DLC...I think.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-04-04 23:00:04
After some rest, Midir went down in two more attempts. Also swapped to a faster weapon.
Love my Old Wolf sword, but it just swings too slowly for that fight.
Edgelord build mostly complete. Just need to respec for finality.
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-04-05 02:38:16
Out of curiosity what is your NG+ and level? I only ask because you have relative little difficulty compared to me.
I mean, I honestly think it's probably that you're just better at Souls than I am but I am curious to see if there are any other factors.
EDIT: I just beat Gael, actually a super fun fight, even considering how frustrating I did find him. I think the problem I had was at times I was being too greedy, in the end I would just roll through his combos and get a hit or 2 in when he finished attacking. I always do DLCs on my first run through on normal NG, because I like to see how strong they are compared to the rest of the game/how they scale later. The one exception being Bloodborne, where I did its DLC on NG+3 from the get go.
I've run through the DLC on both normal NG(level 100) and NG+3(level 165). Though in the NG+3 I went ahead and used NPC summons to boost boss HP, and it actually made things more interesting, particularly in The Demon fight and in Midir, because it changes how they approach you, particularly with Midir. I don't think I've ever gone higher than NG+4 in a Souls game, because I'm not particularly fond of being out strengthed by a great degree/getting oneshot by being clipped or sideswiped.
The character I used for my first run of both DLCs was my jack of trades guy, who originally had like 28 in everything important and 30 faith(for lightning blade, my favorite miracle). He was at level 100 at the start of this DLC and like 98 for Ashes. I could have left him the way he was, be he couldn't deal an appreciable amount of damage, so for the first time ever, I used Rosaria to respec into a more specialized build wherein he had 40 str, 40 vigor, and 37 endurance or whatever. Then the minimum amount of vitality needed to roll fast in the stuff he wore, and 18 INT for GMS. You can still use Tears of Denial with 10 Faith, due to being able to cast it at the bonfire. You just have to swap rings out and it makes each try annoying, so I did that a few times too for bosses I felt it was necessary for.
Also I don't feel like I'm really above par at Souls games. Like, I'm not horrible or bad, but I ain't ever gonna be one of those SL1 junkies. Don't got that kind of patience for it/don't like being weak/don't like exploitation of Raw weapons etc. Usually when I beat bosses the first time, there's a great deal of luck on my side imo. Like, if you watch my Gael video I got lucky when I ran out of Estus, and went into my menu mid fight to use a Divine Blessing lol. On Midir, if I'd been playing on even NG+1, his Dark Laser Amygdala Breath would have killed me, or if I'd had any less HP at all lol. The Demon fight is probably the only one where I didn't really get lucky with it, actually having Estus remaining etc.
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| July 14, 2012 - Dark Souls for PC Will Use GFWL After All
June 20, 2012 - Dark Souls discounted to under $30 on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360
June 12, 2012 - Localising Dark Souls
June 7, 2012 - Dark Souls: PC version will have "minimal mouse and keyboard support," uses Games for Windows Live "to provide game as soon as possible."
June 7, 2012 - From Software "having a tough time" porting Dark Souls to PC, frame rate issues remain
May 31, 2012 - Dark Souls PC coming to Steam, consoles to get PC content
April 12, 2012 - Gamers rallying against Dark Souls PC using Games for Windows Live
April 7, 2012 - Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition coming to PC in August
January 13, 2012 - Dark Souls PC petition at nearly 70,000 signatures, Namco listening
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