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By Odin.Jigoku 2015-04-21 13:51:59
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Allright, I'm trough. took about 25h. a bit short for 70 bucks and the Story is quite disappointing. the loading time is Long at any Point of the game and it was even longer before the last patch I heared. I think I made all optional bosses, but not sure. I expected a bit more of this.
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-21 13:57:10
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Odin.Jigoku said: »
Allright, I'm trough. took about 25h. a bit short for 70 bucks and the Story is quite disappointing. the loading time is Long at any Point of the game and it was even longer before the last patch I heared. I think I made all optional bosses, but not sure. I expected a bit more of this.

25 hours is a rushed way to play... and i doubt you did all the extra zones with 25 hours. And even further doubt you did the chalice dungeons.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-21 14:06:05
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Odin.Jigoku said: »
Allright, I'm trough. took about 25h. a bit short for 70 bucks and the Story is quite disappointing. the loading time is Long at any Point of the game and it was even longer before the last patch I heared. I think I made all optional bosses, but not sure. I expected a bit more of this.

25 hours is pretty fast. It took me ~55 hours to finish the game, and I haven't done any Chalice dungeons, PvP, farming, nor just messing around.

Did you use a guide that tells you where to go? Because that can dramatically lower your clear time. Either that or you ignored many mobs and rushed through them.

Regarding the story, it's more lore than story. That has always been the case with the Souls games. If you prefer straightforward story-telling & do not enjoy connecting dots trying to figure out what the hell is going on, then it's expected that you wouldn't enjoy a Souls game. =/
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-21 14:46:24
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Odin.Jigoku said: »
took about 25h.

Took me 43 hours and I cleared all optional bosses and about 1/3 of all chalice dungeons. Fought both the final "Optional" bosses as well. I also spent some time farming gems.

If I hadn't done that, it would have been about 35 hours. I would say 25 is very quick and you probably missed a lot.

But don't worry.. you can play again, and again, and again, and again...
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-21 17:02:23
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There's also the memory leak AI bug that makes boss fights easier. Some people might have triggered that without knowing.
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By Kalila 2015-04-21 17:07:19
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Odin.Jigoku said: »
. a bit short for 70 bucks
The good thing about Souls games is they have great replayability.

Most games don't offer that, last ~30 hours for 60 dollars, probably even once a year.
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By Asura.Vyre 2015-04-21 17:19:20
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I stink at Visceral Attacks. I beat stuff that most people visceral by luring the opponent into any easily dodgeable attack. Get hit a lot if I misread what they're doing xD
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-21 17:28:19
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Kalila said: »
Odin.Jigoku said: »
. a bit short for 70 bucks
The good thing about Souls games is they have great replayability.

Most games don't offer that, last ~30 hours for 60 dollars, probably even once a year.

Ya the first playthrough is easymode souls games... the NG+ is when it becomes a real souls game.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-21 18:16:04
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Well the Witch of Hemwick was a bit of a disappointingly easy boss!
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-21 18:35:11
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Well the Witch of Hemwick was a bit of a disappointingly easy boss!

yes they need to make the adds more hostile and spawn more frequent the longer the fight takes. or just start with 3 witches.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2015-04-22 08:08:43
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Abhorrent beast was the only boss that was difficult in the game. Actually a lot of the hunters were way harder than the bosses lol
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-22 11:20:36
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Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Abhorrent beast was the only boss that was difficult in the game. Actually a lot of the hunters were way harder than the bosses lol

The bosses are just like anything else. Eventually you learn all their moves and can kill them pretty easy because you know exactly what they will do before they do it.

I would say out of all the non-chalice bosses or dungeons, the final two "Optional" bosses were the hardest. (without spoiling anything)

More due to their speed than anything else.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-22 20:11:22
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Part of the boss'(any boss) difficulty is that...I'm human. The game is testing my patience. I killed many bosses on my first try, but there were others whom I was supposed to kill on my first try, but couldn't outlast them due to entering the fight with limited resources...then they'll keep killing me for the next 5 tries that I enter with 20 vials because I'm getting impatient.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-22 20:13:22
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Spoilers etc:

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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 09:14:23
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So I used a guide to locate the NPCs I want to save them all! Well, if I hadn't used a guide I would have probably sent that one NPC to the clinic and not been able to talk to the crying woman.

Out of curiosity though, with the little girl side-quest, have I pretty much messed it up by using the red brooch?
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By Kalila 2015-04-23 10:25:32
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If you give her the red brooch her side quest ends
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By Kalila 2015-04-23 10:30:34
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I can explain the step by step for that quest if you want, and the failure steps you don't want to take
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2015-04-23 10:34:22
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Kalila said: »
If you give her the red brooch her side quest ends
EDIT2: No I didn't. The side quest continues.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 10:35:34
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Kalila said: »
I can explain the step by step for that quest if you want, and the failure steps you don't want to take
Before I realised the significance of the Red Brooch, I used it as an item, now when I go to the little girl's window I get no response, makes me think I messed it up.
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By Kalila 2015-04-23 10:41:10
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Yea, no responses are failure states, well, the quest ends at that point.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 10:44:23
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Kalila said: »
Yea, no responses are failure states, well, the quest ends at that point.
Aww, guess I'll complete that quest in NG+
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By Ohji Lunartail 2015-04-23 10:46:31
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if brooch is used you can continue the quest, according to the wiki,
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but if ya return after a certian time it becomes impossible
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If you progress too far in the story before completing the quest, it becomes impossible to complete as checking the window will yield "[No Response]" like many other windows and door around Central Yharnam.
and i dont mean to contradict kali, i just have a habit of checking the wiki randomly and was looking at this last night lol
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 11:14:33
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Ohji Lunartail said: »
if brooch is used you can continue the quest, according to the wiki,
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but if ya return after a certian time it becomes impossible
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If you progress too far in the story before completing the quest, it becomes impossible to complete as checking the window will yield "[No Response]" like many other windows and door around Central Yharnam.
and i dont mean to contradict kali, i just have a habit of checking the wiki randomly and was looking at this last night lol
I had looked to see if I may have progressed too far, I wonder at what point it was too far.
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By Ohji Lunartail 2015-04-23 11:22:26
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how far ya in?
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By Kalila 2015-04-23 11:53:10
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Just skip over if you don't want quest spoilers. I made it myself, not sure if there are any mistakes but this is how I understand the questline.

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By Kalila 2015-04-23 12:10:35
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Main points of UPDATE 1.03

-Reduced loading times (approx 5-15 seconds;. May Vary by circumstance)

-fixed bug That left Certain Lifts and elevators inoperable

-fixed bug That Resulted in bosses Becoming Immobilized

-fixed bug That left Players unable to Advance NPC events During multi-Play

-When the PS4 IS put into Rest Mode During Online Play, the Game Will Now Return to the main title screen upon resuming Play

This Will resolve matchmaking issues related to Suspend / Resume.

-Other Various bug fixes

We will continue to make improvements to better the play experience.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2015-04-23 12:10:46
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Bloodborne patch today.

New loading screens! and MUCH faster!

EDIT: Streaming now
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By Kalila 2015-04-23 12:12:02
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ha ha! I win ! :3
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-23 12:30:47
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Kalila said: »
ha ha! I win ! :3

Kali your load times seemed quick. do you have a ssd? if not i wonder what my times will be with a ssd o.o
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By Kalila 2015-04-23 13:12:30
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Pwolf Drkgawd said: »
Kalila said: »
ha ha! I win ! :3

Kali your load times seemed quick. do you have a ssd? if not i wonder what my times will be with a ssd o.o
I don't have an SSD for my PS4, but the times are quicker. It feels nice.
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