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By Anna Ruthven 2015-04-14 19:29:18
Sorry Kali, my back is hurting so I'm laying down but break some chairs for me! \o/
By Kalila 2015-04-14 19:32:00
Sorry Kali, my back is hurting so I'm laying down but break some chairs for me! \o/ If I can find any :<
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-04-14 19:35:35
Sorry Kali, my back is hurting so I'm laying down but break some chairs for me! \o/ If I can find any :< Well, have fun killing other things if you can't. Lol
By Kalila 2015-04-14 19:37:12
Bloodborne Sells One Million, First 1.03 Details
We are amazed and very grateful for the way in which the community has embraced Bloodborne. As you may have seen, we've just announced that Bloodborne has now sold through over one million copies worldwide. Thank you to everyone who has supported the project!
We also wanted to provide more information regarding the next patch for Bloodborne.
As we confirmed previously, the 1.03 update seeks to reduce certain load times in addition to performance optimizations. The patch also resolves an issue that resulted in abnormal game behavior after many continuous hours of play. Additional fixes will be included as well.
The team is currently working towards a global release of the 1.03 patch before the end of the month. We will try to provide more specific timing as soon as we are able.
Please note: online play will need to be disabled for a short period of time to facilitate server-side updates. In this case, and in the case of any future server maintenance downtime, it has been determined that starting at 1am PT on a non-Friday weeknight will disrupt the fewest players. We will target this time for any necessary future server maintenance downtime, which will only last a couple hours in each instance.
On behalf of the Bloodborne development team, thank you for your ongoing passion and support.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2015-04-14 19:53:09
"Quick update, the books will be delivered to Amazon from this Thursday through next Monday. Please disregard any notifications claiming that you'll get the book in May or so. Also, all pre-orders will be fulfilled, too, so don't worry.
Thanks again your patience. We'd love for everyone to get their hands on this guide sooner than later, and we have to admit, you guys have been waiting for too long now. Please, just bear with us a few days longer now."
:< almost! Also kinda feel bad for them, but From Soft really love using them as their guide writers, I just hope that this delay doesn't sour their relationship for any future games. If they were delayed because of their original page count, I'd be a little annoyed.
They're delayed because they decided to add tons of content. Stoked as hell! :D
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By Ohji Lunartail 2015-04-14 20:24:37
finaly got around to playing more... yea i think i need to level more lol
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-14 20:34:49
I killed an NPC by mistake :( It's the crow hunter, Eileen. She was wounded on the stairs at the grand cathedral. I died once to the hunter who wounded her, and was omw back to fight him. I usually equip my saw cleaver when I'm not fighting, because it has a regen gem on it. I wanted to check out what the transformed R1 attacks does while still relatively far from the top of the stairs, but I still hit Eileen, and that was all she needed to die.. /sigh
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-14 20:44:37
Where Bloodborne fell short of its predecessors for me was NPC side quests.
And I generally preferred the level design and variety of Dark Souls 1.
Regarding weapons, I don't personally care (actually, don't like) about having 1000 weapons to choose from, because, in the end, only a handful stand out and you'll end up choosing one of those for anything serious.
Weapons in Bloodborne are unique, all are viable choices, and the addition of firearms was pretty interesting! I liked the design for most of them.
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-15 12:09:30
The hunter you fight in that side quest is extraordinarily easy if you lure him out of the room he is in.
The cheese strat for getting him to kill himself with his 2handed chikage by luring him out of his room doesn't work anymore, and/or did not work for me. He was honestly, without cheesing, one of the toughest fights in the game.
I don't want to discredit your review at all, but, I will say that Bloodborne is very far from linear, and isn't really that short.
The level design is beyond the level Dark Souls went, it really is.
There are like 2 or 3 major area groups you can completely miss if you don't access them. I don't know if you used the wiki to get all the information yourself, but for me personally, I played this game completely blind, and missed around 2 major area groups my first playthrough that I discovered my second time around.
I guess we will just have to disagree on this. As a souls vet I didn't use the wiki to find out where to go, I just explored. The only time I had to look something up was when I was stuck on a boss, which was rare.
I did find this game to be much more linear. There is a clear progression of bosses and while you can skip many of them, if you just explore thoroughly you will end up finding most of them.
I found that when I found an area I would do everything I could to explore every bit of it, like you should in any souls game. This often leads you to fighting all of the optional content, even if you have ot go back within that play-through to do it.
The game still felt Linear and much shorter than DS1. There is no equivalent to going to Blighttown, the Tomb, or New Londo ruins when you are first dropped into the game. It just felt more constrained.
It's not that there wasn’t optional areas/bosses. It was that you had a start point and an end point that were pretty well laid out for you. Only 7 bosses need to be cleared to beat the game and exploring, while important, did not seem to be overly encouraged.
Now, I need to make this clear. This is not even close to something that I feel makes the game poor, it was just a slight negative in my mind. It took away some of the immersion for me. All of the other issues were much larger in my opinion.
The lack of meaningful magic / build variety / weapons / covenants / PVP / repetitive chalice dungeons
These were things in previous souls games (sans the chalice dungeons) that made the more complex and enjoyable. These are also issues that they CAN fix going forward and hopefully they do.
edit* I did actually look up how to get to Cainhurst Castle, this games equivalent to the Painted World
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-15 12:14:50
However with that said I think this is their best souls game, as far as the general gameplay goes
The physical Gameplay / Combat was easily the best in the series so far. It just felt 1000x more fluid and natural.
By Kalila 2015-04-15 14:56:39
The game still felt Linear and much shorter than DS1. There is no equivalent to going to Blighttown, the Tomb, or New Londo ruins when you are first dropped into the game. It just felt more constrained. That's because this isn't Dark Souls :( It really isn't. This isn't a sequel to the game like DS2 was, and I found Dark Souls 2 to be very linear having the area's spread out like a spider web.
Bloodborne twists the areas back together again like DS1.
With 28 bosses in Bloodborne, and 22 bosses in DS1 before DLC (26 with DLC), I think they did pretty well. DLC will bring more to Bloodborne in the future as well, so I really can't understand where this linear gameplay is coming from. The areas are no where near linear, there are more bosses, and the bosses are far more difficult than at the level of DS1.
By Kalila 2015-04-15 15:02:27
The lack of meaningful magic / build variety / weapons / covenants / PVP / repetitive chalice dungeons There isn't magic like DS1, because people used it cheaply in PvP. Call it what you want to, the fact is you can just bow, and cast a single spell and kill someone. Magic was OP, broken, and really had no place in Dark Souls PvP. In PvE it did, but people ruin it to the ground because its exploitive.
Weapons were condensed to having 1 weapon of each type that worked very well. In DS1 there are 5-15 of each weapon type, but only 1 or 2 of them hold the top spot that everyone uses anyways.
Covenants are a disappointment, with there only being 2 available atm. DLC might bring more, but I would prefer it not to.
Online play does need adjustments so it's easier to co-op and pvp, everyone knows that.
Chalice dungeons are there for players who want more, none of it is even required, but after beating the game I'm glad I have them, it gives me something to do and the bosses in them are very very challenging. I really am glad they put them in, I might have died more in the dungeons now than I have outside of them. Maybe not, but those bosses are really challenging.
By Kalila 2015-04-15 15:04:44
edit* I did actually look up how to get to Cainhurst Castle, this games equivalent to the Painted World What about Upper Cathedral Ward? That area group holds the top spot as the darkest and most challenging area in the game for me. Did I mention dark? Dark as in disgustingly gruesome? Holy crap.
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-15 15:38:13
edit* I did actually look up how to get to Cainhurst Castle, this games equivalent to the Painted World What about Upper Cathedral Ward? That area group holds the top spot as the darkest and most challenging area in the game for me. Did I mention dark? Dark as in disgustingly gruesome? Holy crap.
I found Forbidden Woods to be the toughest area for me, at least initially. As for Darkest.. i'll agree that upper was pretty demented, but some of the things you see in Nightmare Mensis can't be unseen.
I will say this though, the boss at the very end of UCW was pretty challenging. It was a welcome change compared to the first boss you fight in that area. (without spoiling anything)
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-15 15:44:29
By the way, I did start another play through.
Going to attempt what should be almost impossible.
Lvl. 4 Waste of Skin, non-upgraded Threaded Cane, Top Hat, White Surgical Gloves, Gherman's Pants (at some point), Student Uniform.
I've gotten to the Father G fight so far and my charge attacks are only hitting for 50-60 or so. I'm thinking I will have to end up breaking my "Non-upgraded Threaded Cane" rule at some point :/
Was pretty rewarding killing the first Lycan/werewolf in the clinic with my Bare hands though.
By Kalila 2015-04-15 17:25:09
edit* I did actually look up how to get to Cainhurst Castle, this games equivalent to the Painted World What about Upper Cathedral Ward? That area group holds the top spot as the darkest and most challenging area in the game for me. Did I mention dark? Dark as in disgustingly gruesome? Holy crap.
I found Forbidden Woods to be the toughest area for me, at least initially. As for Darkest.. i'll agree that upper was pretty demented, but some of the things you see in Nightmare Mensis can't be unseen.
I will say this though, the boss at the very end of UCW was pretty challenging. It was a welcome change compared to the first boss you fight in that area. (without spoiling anything) The first was just a play on Royal Rat Vanguard, with a twist.
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-15 23:49:56
Man, Cannon in pvp is so fun… Also I'ma dirty ***… maybe I will post a video.
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By Asura.Taidis 2015-04-16 06:01:17
I died a couple times mucking up the jump but got to the Abandoned Old Workshop yesterday :D Wonder where I should visit next!
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-16 11:49:11
I had a nasty dream.
IRL, my latest progress was reaching Nightmare Mensis. I didn't even get to the lamp, but I reached the point were my Frenzy bar was filling slowly. I didn't play right before bed or even at night, it just happened that I dreamt about this part that night.
In the dream, the area was in the afternoon, and turned into a wide area, its entrance blocked by a gate. As soon as I approached the gate, a hunter with a pitchfork and dialogue along the lines of: "I'm not letting you leave this place alive!" started attacking me. I killed him, and progressed through the wide barren area. There was a cave near the end.
There, I met a beautiful blonde woman in a white dress. She was sitting inside the cave. After looting some items, I talked to her, she spoke in a very polite manner. Then she asked me whether I'd seen a hunter with a pitchfork, and she found out that I killed the hunter. It turned out that he was her husband, and she got angry. I tried explaining to her that it was in self-defense, but no, she wouldn't listen. she turned hostile, and was wielding something that aids her in casting magic (remisnicent of talismans and catalysts from the previous games). I didn't wait to see what sorcery she has up her sleeve, I ran away.
I backtracked my way, and while running, several packs of mobs of different kinds started to spawn before me, with a bell necromancer controlling each pack! In addition, I got a message that I was being invaded by a player.
My plan was to outrun the last pack in my way, get rid of it real fast then fight the invader. Alas, the invader caught up pretty quick, and the battle seemed hopeless. For some reason, at that point of the dream, I turned into a spectator, watching my character struggle, run back to the start of the level, while waiting to hear the dreaded "slash" sound that signals the death of a being in the Souls games (had to be followed with my character's death cry to make sure it was my character that died, not a mob)...I'm not sure how it really ended, though.
By Kalila 2015-04-16 17:29:26
Trying out my new twitter news template I wrote up:
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@XboxP3 | I know some will question me but wanted to say it's cool to see Bloodborne sell 1M+. New IP is hard, congrats @PlayStation @fromsoftware_pr
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By Bismarck.Misao 2015-04-16 18:19:37
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-16 22:50:13
Hey Kali what lvl are you? haven't seen you stream lately
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By Kalila 2015-04-16 23:06:48
Hey Kali what lvl are you? haven't seen you stream lately Just took like a 2 day break, I want to say around level 120'ish, I could be way off though. Nearing the end of NG+
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-16 23:20:44
Hey Kali what lvl are you? haven't seen you stream lately Just took like a 2 day break, I want to say around level 120'ish, I could be way off though. Nearing the end of NG+
Jeez xD so what do you do with all the extra echoes? just throw them away? did you co-op NG+? or solo. wish co-op was easier to do because i want to co-op chalice dungeons and stuffs. also lvl 135 >.>
By Kalila 2015-04-16 23:58:22
Hey Kali what lvl are you? haven't seen you stream lately Just took like a 2 day break, I want to say around level 120'ish, I could be way off though. Nearing the end of NG+
Jeez xD so what do you do with all the extra echoes? just throw them away? did you co-op NG+? or solo. wish co-op was easier to do because i want to co-op chalice dungeons and stuffs. also lvl 135 >.> See the thing is
I die a lot
which means I get hit a lot
.... I spend all my echoes buying blood vials :P
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By Ohji Lunartail 2015-04-17 00:35:03
Hey Kali what lvl are you? haven't seen you stream lately Just took like a 2 day break, I want to say around level 120'ish, I could be way off though. Nearing the end of NG+
Jeez xD so what do you do with all the extra echoes? just throw them away? did you co-op NG+? or solo. wish co-op was easier to do because i want to co-op chalice dungeons and stuffs. also lvl 135 >.> See the thing is
I die a lot
which means I get hit a lot
.... I spend all my echoes buying blood vials :P
also Molotovs.. <,<
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-17 00:57:42
I hate Molos. also has anyone else tested the Oath runes?
I tried hunters rune… saw almost no difference in speed. used a stop watch but I'm not the best. maybe a fraction of a second..
also the radiance rune.. at 1457hp without rune i heal 582 per vial. with rune 594… woohoo! >.>
By Kalila 2015-04-17 01:40:55
1500 hp o.o; I don't think I even have 1k
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| July 14, 2012 - Dark Souls for PC Will Use GFWL After All
June 20, 2012 - Dark Souls discounted to under $30 on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360
June 12, 2012 - Localising Dark Souls
June 7, 2012 - Dark Souls: PC version will have "minimal mouse and keyboard support," uses Games for Windows Live "to provide game as soon as possible."
June 7, 2012 - From Software "having a tough time" porting Dark Souls to PC, frame rate issues remain
May 31, 2012 - Dark Souls PC coming to Steam, consoles to get PC content
April 12, 2012 - Gamers rallying against Dark Souls PC using Games for Windows Live
April 7, 2012 - Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition coming to PC in August
January 13, 2012 - Dark Souls PC petition at nearly 70,000 signatures, Namco listening
Jan 8th, 2012 - Dark Souls admin suggests PC could happen with a petition |
Character Builds
Character builds can be either PvP, PvE, or both. You can specify which if you wish, but I'll be listing any builds posted in this topic here. Use the Dark Souls Character Planner linked above to create a link to your build for others to view.
Dark Souls Map
New ContentNew Bosses - Including Artorias of Abyss, Chimera of Tomb, and more
PVP Online Matchmaking System - Quick matching for co-op or PVP
New Areas – Including Oolacile Tomb, Old Ruins and more
New Enemies – Including Abyss Guard, Chained Prisoner and more
New NPCs – Including Hawkeye Gough and more
New Weapons and Armor – Equip some from the new bosses, enemies, and NPCs
I'll try my best to update the OP with any information posted in this topic.
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