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By Shichishito 2026-06-02 09:11:05
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
It's not burning mountains of gil, it's burning a pittance. Not just to rich people, but to everyone. It's like a single +2 neck a month, if you used it every day (which you won't) for several events (which you won't).

Compared to spending hundreds of millions on REMA, su5 weapons, su3 armor, +2 necks, JSE upgrades, osash, etc. The Hoxne Ampulla gil is a drop in the bucket. If you didn't record your gil before & after, you probably wouldn't even notice it. Especially for short events like a single v25 boss.
Even if it's pricy, buying regular equipment is a one and done. Hoxne Ampulla is more like a subscription. In the long run it will cost you more than a kraken club.

Comments like this only demonstrate how detached some peoples FFXI reality is from the one of the average joe.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-06-02 09:18:01
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Shichishito said: »
Equipment always eventually became a standard expectation to get invited into groups no matter how expensive it is, REMA is a good example, so I'm worried it will be no different with ampulla.
That's not really a problem with the ampulla as much as the player attitude. If someone's asking for R25+ nyame to do an event or whatever other silly req, that still has a time/economic value. For the cost of one path C rostam (another silly shout req), you could buy the ampulla and repeat every ody v25 where it applies until you cleared it. You'd probably have gil leftover, too.

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Of course the ampulla mechanic is a RMT's wet dream. It draws gil from the economy, gives infinite incentive to buy more gil and it doesn't affect the rate of how fast RMT can acquire more gil with bots or mercing.
It's not surprising at all that RMT find Hoxne Ampulla fantastic.
I know exactly zero people who are buying gil to fund their ampulla addiction. My impression is that it's mostly used by serious endgame players who are already getting 1.5mil a day from segment farms and people who are stuck on the ladder. Gearing one new job costs more than using the ampulla for months would.

Yes, gil sinks are good for RMT. It's possible the Ampulla ranks highly on them, but I suspect it's less than you think. The 1.1m npc mats that go into damn near every useful synth and many upgrades are probably 5x the sink ampulla is on a serverwide basis. It's still an extra sink, and I still like that. But, to be clear, gil sinks are also beneficial for most players.. do you want them to avoid things that help you because they also help RMT?

Put another way: if it didn't consume gil but was on the rarity of kraken club and cost nearly a billion gil would you still complain about it? It's a very powerful item that provides creep allowing players to complete content they would've failed damage checks on previously. You can get immediate access to it for only ~50m and use it for ages before you get anywhere near that price.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-02 09:18:56
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The problem isnt the whales burning their gil, what people do with their gil is their own business, its when the PuG's start demanding it like ML50 or a stage 5 prime.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-06-02 09:29:23
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I've joined plenty of groups, statics, 9b runs, segment farms, climbs, with everyone from high end players to complete newbs. The mindset among the vast majority is that using ampulla is still kinda taboo "DUDE YOU'RE PAYING FOR DAMAGE???? GAAAASSSP", and nobody has yet even mentioned it in any groups or shouts I have ever seen. I haven't even seen scrubs who could benefit heavily from it use it. Everyone still believe it "drains your gil and you'll end up with zero" (categorically untrue, fake.news, broke numbers down, it's very little money spent per event, compared to food/meds you pay for).

I've never seen a single shout for ml50 or stage 5 prime, and I'm on Asura.

I don't think we're going to ever get to the point where people demand it in shouts, it's a tool for those who want to enjoy the increase, but it's not a measure of anything the average player would be interested in splurging on. I've also never seen a single shout for kraken club job in all my years playing. It's just not gonna happen (there will be one idiot that does, but that's an idiot who is getting carried anyways).
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2026-06-02 09:49:54
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Going back to the Ashera vs Limbus body for BRD, I was 0/250+ on Gin, plus god knows how many trove attempts with friends.
Got limbus body, Ashera dropped the next day in trove. lol
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By Taint 2026-06-02 10:15:10
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Going back to the Ashera vs Limbus body for BRD, I was 0/250+ on Gin, plus god knows how many trove attempts with friends.
Got limbus body, Ashera dropped the next day in trove. lol


Working as intended.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-02 10:25:42
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Imagine the reverse effect:

You go to fight a V25 xevioso. You tell your teammate they should use a hoxne ampulla. They refuse to use it because they don't want to spend the gil. You time out at 3%.

Don't you think you'd feel like the ultimate dumbass for not spending 200k on a win? Or wouldn't you be pissed that this moron threw away your win to save himself the cost of like...a stack of grape daifuku+1?

It's not wife changing money, people.

It's the same thing as people using NQ food and refusing to eat panacea because you have a WHM. Well, when you wipe you can blame it on their cheapness.

I'm sure there are people using it on segments. ***, I used it for a mythic WS trial. Some people have more gil than they need. I don't see how that's in any way relevant to your decisions though. Nobody's forcing you to use hoxne on segments or limbus runs just because the Joneses did.
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