Random Question Thread (FFXI Related)

I have a racing bird with STR/END at cap (255/249) with Gallop and Canter. I'm under the impression the abilities increase that amount further. But to be honest, I have no idea.

This is my fear, if they dont break the cap then it seems like might be a waste? No idea. Also is 255 RP needed or is just being 224 and SS all that matters. Because if you just need 224 then 31 points could make the difference in another stat.

(Female) [Green] Jockey: Mithra DNA: [Green Green Red]
STR: 214 Outstanding(S) 22~23/32RP
END: 194 Outstanding(S) 2~3/32RP
DSC: 126 Average(C) 30~31/32RP
RCP: 30 Poor(F) 30/32RP
Abilities: Canter & Gallop
Personality: Rather enigmatic
Weather: Prefers Clear days. Dislikes None.

I kinda want to start pushing RCP more but no idea what is best action. I am on Deadly Race and have not started the Circuit races yet.

Are omen bodies still worth anything? I had an ashera harness drop to the floor from aman because no one wanted it

Ashera Harness specifically suffered from the main demand being Bard TP sets and now they just wear even Rank 0 Duty Cyclas [EDIT: NO, IT'S REVELATION, I'M AN IDIOT SEE BELOW] instead:


Marginally less DT, but the Volte pieces also got replaced with DT so you end up way ahead... so poor Harness is a lot less desirable than it was a year ago.

Shamash Robe still seems to sell in yells.

Definitely not an OMG GOTTA HAVE piece given the reasonable alternatives, but eh, I'd still want it for BRD RUN.

I still prefer Ashera for my BRD, STP+10 over DA+7% and more Meva/Def (though Ashera is far from glass cannon gear). I'm a little weird and often like to use AM3 Carn though, so YMMV. Also rank 0 on Limbus armor here and don't really want to bother with the augment slog, but once you augment it that does kind of make Ashera obsolete.

Ashera's still pretty great for Epeolatry RUN. Turms+1 is a solid alternative (2 more STP, no DT-), but I have both and tend to use Ashera more.

Never really has been tops for the other jobs on it, though it's obviously not crap. While I wouldn't use it on my main's NIN that has all of the options, I still TP in Ashera (lucky Trove) on my mule/alt's NIN who hasn't managed to get a Malignance Tabard yet and don't feel bad about it lol


The other bodies:
- Shamash is still a very good refresh+3/PDT-10% idle piece, though one that has considerably less value post-Empyrean Reforged armor. RDM BLU SCH straight up replace it with their Empy+2 or +3 bodies (more DT than Shamash and same Refresh+3 even on the +2s, more DT- and Refresh+4 on the +3s), and WHM BLM SCH don't get xDT- on their Empy bodies but do get Refresh+4 on the +3s so might prefer that.

- Dagon retains niche use for Subtle Blow II sets (not using Su5 B-path weapons)

- Nisroch is quite niche, but does retain some use for Empyrean AM-up ranged crit builds.

- Udug is probably just dead. Used to still retain use for BST magical Ready moves, but Duty body's Pet Dmg+8% stat (even without augments) is good stuff. Does still look fantastic for lockstyle though!

BRD uses Revalation not Duty.



Rank 30: [1] Accuracy+30 Mag. Acc+30 [2] "Double Attack"+8% [3] Physical Damage Limit+7%

Hey, maybe that's why I wasn't using Duty on BRD!

And perhaps an even bigger reason why I haven't changed my BRD TP body. Ashera is still better than R0 Revelation. Ashera has 2 more STP, very similar Acc/Atk/Meva/DT/Haste. Revelation gets crit rate +8% and a bit more STR (which isn't very relevant for BRD TP phase)

Not sure of the full augment path by level, but you'd need a decent amount of DA to make me want to switch to Duty body, and augment 2 doesn't even show up until rank 15, right? So maybe something like rank 20 body to pull even with Ashera? IDK, I don't think a lot of people are rocking r20+ Su5 bodies yet. I'm sure not, and doubt I'll ever be that excited to focus on this particular one over other options even if I did feel masochistic enough to augment Limbus gear (which I don't).

So, Ashera still the best option for a whole lot of Bards.

Rank 20 body to pull even with Ashera is a stretch. Rank 0 is pretty much equal offensively and a bit better defensively unless you really care about resist paralyze. Add some accuracy in there and you've got a reason to prefer it.

Of course, that doesn't mean it's worth the effort at low ranks. If you don't want to grind limbus to eventually max it and you already have Ashera, it's a tough sell recommending you get it in the first place.

Thank you. I'm a moron.

Thanks for the info. Things surely have changed since i've been gone

I slightly disagree and am on Thorny's side with this one. for BRD. Use Ashera if you have it, but if not, Revelation is an easy 1-2 hour upgrade and can buy with gil. I've completely swapped any Ashera sets on my BRD in favor of Revelation (I also wanted the lockstyle), but it would be somewhat less impactful for most BRDs if they have Ashera already. Regardless, R0 is just an upgrade in nearly every metric.

For RUN, I use Ashera in my Hoxne STP DD set with Helheim/Lionheart. The TP gain is incredible, and retaining -DT in such a set is necessary too. So I think it still has a use (niche, but still) to a degree. It's also in my Hybrid set on RUN where I do care about TPing relatively quickly but also want the defensive ability to not get flattened.

On NIN, I have replaced Ashera Harness with either Adamantite Armor (for defensive/SIRD/HP Retention transition builds) or Revelation body (for pretty much anything else you'd use Ashera for). Either is a straight up upgrade in nearly every statistical category, with Revelation having 50~ less HP, but way better defensive properties for the stuff I want to Revelation in. It's a mix between Malignance, Adamantite, and Revelation bodies on NIN.

I might have one set on MNK that uses Ashera Harness, but I couldn't tell you what that is without checking. It fell off pretty hard, but it still retains some use for at least BRD and RUN.

Since monthly update i have an issue to (randomly, but all accounts are affected on a daily base) lose chars while zoning. Means, the window just closes on warp/zoning,teleport etc. The char stays "online" at targeted zone for about 5mins (but dont appears there) befor iam able to relog it. Some1 else is affected by this? Advice would be appreciated!

Using fastfollow or something similar? If so, its likely that.

Nope, nothing like that. Just the basic windower.

Is your connection to SE's servers stable aka no packet loss?

I've noticed in the past when my connection was unstable for whatever reason, that would happen to my chars randomly.

Nearly every metric except the one that matters the most? Store TP is the most consequential difference for BRD TP purposes, so I'll take Ashera's STP+2 advantage over Revelation's crit rate that I don't particularly care much about on BRD TP (assuming you aren't specifically trying to crit for some proc mechanic or something). Not the end of the world or anything, but having Ashera there's nothing there giving me motivation to go drop 30mil to get Revelation body immediately for my BRD TP set.

The rest is basically all sidegrade territory. Very similar Acc/Atk (considering attributes), same haste, similar spread of defensive stats. Revelation is only slightly better defensively; we're talking a DT-1% difference (which you're likely able to easily cap regardless), 4 Meva, 1 MDB... DEF+37 advantage for Rev is the most substantial difference, so... OK. This is not a case of one piece being sturdy and the other being total glass cannon gear.

Again, once you add augments, sure, I can see Revelation pulling away. But you only get Acc+1 per augment level 1-14, and DA doesn't even start to appear until level 15, right? So at least until you start getting DA augments, I don't see the big appeal in using the worse STP body out of these two sidegrades.

YMMV in how interested you are in upgrading this particular Su5 piece; someone who's interested in Revelation for WAR NIN too might have some added incentive to grind this one out. But man, with the amount of grind needed for Limbus gear, this isn't even a piece I'd even be looking at upgrading any time in the near future, I'd prioritize others (and probably burn out thanks to the grindy nature of Limbus). I can't imagine I am all alone.

Hence, still should be some BRDs out there who wouldn't mind using an Ashera Harness. Especially if one dropped in Trove and was otherwise going to hit the ground. These bodies are choice 1a and 1b for Bard TP.


If you can swing the lack of DT- on Turms+1 body (i.e., get it in other slots), that does have better STP/Acc/Meva/MDB... But yeah, there are certainly reasonable Ashera RUN use cases.


We shouldn't even need to talk about MNK THF NIN DNC. They can all use Malignance, which already totally replaces Ashera for all practical purposes. Ashera for those jobs is only a placeholder to an item that needs no further augments once you get it.

Ashera: DEF:148 HP+182 MP+44 STR+30 DEX+40 VIT+30 AGI+30 INT+30 MND+30 CHR+40 Accuracy+45 Attack+45 Ranged Accuracy+45 Evasion+90 Magic Evasion+96 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Haste+4% "Store TP"+10 "Resist Paralyze"+90 Damage taken -7%

Malignance: DEF:143 HP+68 MP+44 STR+19 DEX+49 VIT+25 AGI+42 INT+19 MND+24 CHR+24 Accuracy+50 Ranged Accuracy+50 Magic Accuracy+50 Evasion+102 Magic Evasion+139 "Magic Def. Bonus"+8 Haste+4% "Store TP"+11 Physical damage limit +6% Damage taken -9%

My alt/mule NIN who I use for Abyssea procs uses Ashera Harness, and I view it as a Malignance Tabard -1. Not bad, but I'd be wanting to upgrade that slot if I was on my main job and cared about my NIN.

Yeah, looking at the tables it probably overtakes it at some earlier augment level, like DA+1% (rank 15~16?) or DA+2% (rank 17-18ish?). But the point we're both making remains, R0 Revelation isn't all that different from Ashera.

DA is useless because Bard keeps Hoxne up all the time in any scenario where 1% DA makes a difference! :D

LOL, not wrong! In which case, unless I need the accuracy from augments, still using Ashera for more STP. Which means even more when every swing is a DA.

I wish hoxne ampula did not exist.

Spending gil for moar dmg is very Ranger circa 2005.

Just be better at the job.

You spend money on food to be better, same for meds, same for instant use scrolls etc, and same for gear though thats a 1 time expense(usually, enchanment stuff with no refresh youd rebuy) Hoxne is just another extension of that

I mean I can imagine that ammo is hell of a lot fun to play with but exploits and bots flooding the economy with gil is the only reason it exists.

The way it is designed it kind of gate keeps it from everyone who needs to work for their gil.
I don't know how you'd want the average guy to benefit from it without killing it's original intention of drawing gil from the economy.

Maybe tie gil consumption to how much gil is on the server and at some threshold make it free?

If the ammo would need a gil deposition to activate or increase it's potency for a set amount of time kind of like monberaux works then you could argue that way but the way it is it's different.

The gil consumption is much higher than for most food or other consumables, I think the only exception that comes close is altana's repast. with the other consumables you know a head of time how much you just spend while here it's easy to forget about it although you only wanted to activate it for 1 boss.

Also afaik it punishes dual wielders much more than 2 handers.

You use it as gil allows, did you buy +1/2 food for every xp party you joined? No that's probably silly/not worth the money and what if you die and its all wasted. If youre tight on money use it for an important clear, if you got money to throw around then can use it wherever you feel comfortable losing about a mil~2mil

DW tend to have more TA so id argue its net neutral cept maybe dancer? Benefits them similarly to 1 handers though due to delay reduction nerfing TP

The ampulla is a huge potential DPS boost for a short time even without spending a crazy amount. If you're struggling with a clear where it applies, I think paying a bit for extra leeway is an easy choice even for people who 'work for their gil'.

It's not like people are using it to farm master levels or limbus. Sure, some elitists might want you to use it on 9boss sortie runs, but I see it as more of a catchup mechanic for Odyssey.

It's not as significant as people are making it out to be anyway. You spend at most like 1m/hr or something?

A modern player can easily make that much or more in an hour of farming, probably double or triple that. You make 1.5m a day in segments. You can make multiple millions/hr easily in delve, you can make millions an hour in dynamis (old), make a ton of gil a day in dynamis (d), probably nearly twice as much during statue crusher, and a *** of gil during statue crusher plus. Plus probably about a hundred other things I forgot, plus tens of millions a month in ambuscade. For you anti-social folks, at least half of that can be solo'd (though you should talk to other people, ya freak).

If you use ampulla for a single odyssey boss, or an HTBF or something, it will probably cost you like 100k.

It's not burning mountains of gil, it's burning a pittance. Not just to rich people, but to everyone. It's like a single +2 neck a month, if you used it every day (which you won't) for several events (which you won't).

Compared to spending hundreds of millions on REMA, su5 weapons, su3 armor, +2 necks, JSE upgrades, osash, etc. The Hoxne Ampulla gil is a drop in the bucket. If you didn't record your gil before & after, you probably wouldn't even notice it. Especially for short events like a single v25 boss.

My only real concern with it is they could spoil it in future with other iterations of the same if they found the ampulla well received, wsd+50 for 100k, dtII for some amount, pdl, mab, burst dmg etc but in its current form its fine.

2005 rng was mentioned but it does kind of remind me of how cor/nin/rng/mages were "unplayable" cause of ammunition/tool/important scroll costs ontop of food/meds(if they even bough that) when the expenses were usually not near as bad as claimed

Multiple people here have said the use it for ***like EP farming and Limbus climbs though.

Maybe they were taking the piss, but I highly doubt it.

Most foods that I usually buy are 90k, maybe 200k for a stack. They last 30 minutes each and duration can be extended significantly. Even if you die occasionally the costs don't come anywhere near to what ampulla draws from your wallet so I find the comaparison dishonest.
It is a higher DPS gain than food though, I find Dodik's comparison to 2005 RNG ammo more accurate and we got rid of that concept with the addition of REMA ammo.


I think I've already read some people use it for odyssey farming.

Equipment always eventually became a standard expectation to get invited into groups no matter how expensive it is, REMA is a good example, so I'm worried it will be no different with ampulla.

Of course the ampulla mechanic is a RMT's wet dream. It draws gil from the economy, gives infinite incentive to buy more gil and it doesn't affect the rate of how fast RMT can acquire more gil with bots or mercing.
It's not surprising at all that RMT find Hoxne Ampulla fantastic.



Maybe full augmented limbus gear changes this but currently I'd argue that your gear focus is more on STP to get the most out of the ampulla enchantment.

BLU gets a measly 5% triple attack from traits.

THF gets like 19% triple attack without any gear, maybe gere ring and assassin's gorget +2 makes it into TP set so you're at 28%?

I think the only one where this argument holds up is for our golden boy RDM with their 40% triple attack rate from Temper II without making any sacrifices.

Ampulla is their way of passively removing gil from the servers. Ingenious especially with server lockdowns. Pulls double duty. I wish they had just buffed jobs better, but they obviously don't have the development team to properly do that with balance and intention. The item is phenomenal, and I'm in the camp of Ampulla-everywhere; I use it when killing literal random trash every single time I engage. Can never outspend my swings. Gain 30-50/month barely playing, spend like 5m. It's insignificant. After a certain point in the game, you have very little to spend your gil on, unless you just want to make useless su5s for niche purposes. I still remember the guy we helped get a Kalunga 25 clear buying a half dozen repasts for the increased chance at is winning for him. People use ampulla without the ampulla in lots of ways. I'd rather use it as a direct damage increase that I can control. But people are still stuck in mindset of "paying for damage". Man, I'm putting money on your head, Mr Temenos Yagudo!! you getting a 65k WS to your dome. *Kerplunk*

Edit: I used it for every Limbus climb I'm not on geomancer. Literally all day, the gil is not THAT sacred.

Im sure theres a fair few, legit gil or not that are sitting on hundreds that simply arent buying enough to match the gil being made, wouldnt consider them the norm though.


Yeah i forgot blu, technically bst might slot in too, rest have ample MA prior to limbus, post limbus everyones sitting on like 20~ QA, 30ish TA a ton of/capped DA or some combo thereof

Except mage set guys, rip those fellas