I see a lot of usu body in ws sets here, the af 3 +2 body is not better ?
8 STR 8 DEX acc + 12 vs 10 DEX 20 att 20 acc.
In term of dmg the 2 body are kinda the same but the af 3 got more acc so it should win on a multi hi WS
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Seraph.Rof said: I see a lot of usu body in ws sets here, the af 3 +2 body is not better ? 8 STR 8 DEX acc + 12 vs 10 DEX 20 att 20 acc. In term of dmg the 2 body are kinda the same but the af 3 got more acc so it should win on a multi hi WS You'll probably be capped on acc inside abyssea anyways. As for 8 str vs 20 attack, that's a bit different. I kinda doubt PUP easily caps attack vs everything, so I'm not sure what's better tbh. Cerberus.Kvazz said: Seraph.Rof said: I see a lot of usu body in ws sets here, the af 3 +2 body is not better ? 8 STR 8 DEX acc + 12 vs 10 DEX 20 att 20 acc. In term of dmg the 2 body are kinda the same but the af 3 got more acc so it should win on a multi hi WS You'll probably be capped on acc inside abyssea anyways. As for 8 str vs 20 attack, that's a bit different. I kinda doubt PUP easily caps attack vs everything, so I'm not sure what's better tbh. You should also take into consideration that with PUP AF3 +2 the set bonus can proc on ws's also, not just just on normal attacks. So that's something to think about. I always WS in full AF3 +2 and have personally seen way higher numbers than any other combo of gear that I have. And I have tested this inside and outside of abyssea. Highest Stringing Pummel inside abyssea was 7.2k and outside so far was against Ob in rng frame mode for 3822. i kinda had a better result with af 3 +2 too, inside or outside abyssea (NMs or normal mobs), but my test was done with an Alcide's Harness +1 (STR+6 Accuracy+11 Evasion+11 "Subtle Blow"+3 Increases critical hit damage) which is very close to an usu body
Lakshmi.Jimmothy said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Seraph.Rof said: I see a lot of usu body in ws sets here, the af 3 +2 body is not better ? 8 STR 8 DEX acc + 12 vs 10 DEX 20 att 20 acc. In term of dmg the 2 body are kinda the same but the af 3 got more acc so it should win on a multi hi WS You'll probably be capped on acc inside abyssea anyways. As for 8 str vs 20 attack, that's a bit different. I kinda doubt PUP easily caps attack vs everything, so I'm not sure what's better tbh. You should also take into consideration that with PUP AF3 +2 the set bonus can proc on ws's also, not just just on normal attacks. So that's something to think about. I always WS in full AF3 +2 and have personally seen way higher numbers than any other combo of gear that I have. And I have tested this inside and outside of abyssea. Highest Stringing Pummel inside abyssea was 7.2k and outside so far was against Ob in rng frame mode for 3822. inb4 set bonus doesnt proc on ws set bonus doesn't proc on set bonus. Can anybody confirm/deny that af3+2 set bonus can proc on weaponskills?
100% certain? I'd really like to know.(for all jobs) I've allways assumed it can't, but I can't remember seeing any proper tests (not that I've looked in awhile) well i can't say i can prove it but considering me along with a large amount of people cant ever point out a proc on ws, i find it hard to believe it does activate. Most the times people just tend to confuse a DA or TA proc or simply a full crit in aby since it does add a huge amount of dmg.
DRK and WAR set bonus do not proc on WS, I doubt PUP is any different.
This is a serious question, but why TP in hope torque over Cirque Neck? Would that h2h skill beat the faster attacks?
"Honestly never paid attention to Cirque Necklace,kinda always had Faith and used it.Once I finish Kenkoken I think I will use It though"
From what I've heard, Faith / Cirque / Agassaya's are all pretty close, but as always, it's situational
"I know Faith Is better for Mnk but dont know If same rules apply for Pup considering the big difference In skill.I personally try to milk as much acc as possible because I highly doubt I capp dont know for sure"
Uh cap against what? After recent update, the skill difference isn't that huge. Gearing for acc in Abyssea is silly.
Vegetto/tigerwoods said something like "cirque > faith unless you have dual marches, haste and haste samba" lol, so i guess its not so close ^^;
Bismarck.Gael said: Vegetto/tigerwoods said something like "cirque > faith unless you have dual marches, haste and haste samba" lol, so i guess its not so close ^^; Should change out Cavaros Mantle on WS for something better, it's really not that good.
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Well as of right now, your skill is 341 + 16 in merits is 357
With +2 hat, will put you at 362 which would break a dmg tier Torque would add +7 skill, which brings you to 369, one short of a new damage tier. Well thats nice to know thanks,and for mantle Pup dont have alot of choices to be honest not much else I can wear besides the Attk+20 back
Potentia Cape maybe ? (+6 str)
Oh yea I forgot about that back piece
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said: Lakshmi.Jimmothy said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Seraph.Rof said: I see a lot of usu body in ws sets here, the af 3 +2 body is not better ? 8 STR 8 DEX acc + 12 vs 10 DEX 20 att 20 acc. In term of dmg the 2 body are kinda the same but the af 3 got more acc so it should win on a multi hi WS You'll probably be capped on acc inside abyssea anyways. As for 8 str vs 20 attack, that's a bit different. I kinda doubt PUP easily caps attack vs everything, so I'm not sure what's better tbh. You should also take into consideration that with PUP AF3 +2 the set bonus can proc on ws's also, not just just on normal attacks. So that's something to think about. I always WS in full AF3 +2 and have personally seen way higher numbers than any other combo of gear that I have. And I have tested this inside and outside of abyssea. Highest Stringing Pummel inside abyssea was 7.2k and outside so far was against Ob in rng frame mode for 3822. inb4 set bonus doesnt proc on ws set bonus doesn't proc on set bonus. I cannot see any other way to explain a 7.2k stringing pummel other than set bonus. And all the other career pups that I have talked to all say pup is one of the few (if not the only) job that has a set bonus that procs on ws's. ...
Gorgets are ***for pummel and Smite(dont have didnt even check this).. this is the best set the harness +1 with bonus crit damage might win inside tho. Ragnarok.Lugat said: Quote: Increases fTP multiplier by +0.1 and adds some amount of accuracy to all hits of the Weapon Skill. Um... How? Maybe if acc was capped, but fTP multiplier times .10? (Normally the 0 is dropped at the end of decimal numbers, but it's still the same thing as .10.) well inside abyssea they might not be best, because both TP mods are simply crit rate....
Mizu: It's not multiplied, it's added.
Eikechi: fTP is straight damage, it's not TP bonus. but don't most of the crit WSs have standard TP bonuses? (and ya you're right, i did read that wrong :P)... Cuz I know some crit WSs do have a set TP value for fTP (atleast I think pummel does)
edit: I just looked up Pummel and Smite on the wiki and it says that the 3 TP anchors are all the same (.75 for pummel (needs verification) and 2.25 for Smite)... so wouldn't adding fTP actually not do much at all? Isn't that what the fTP is? Those anchor points and the values assigned to them? If they stay the same, adding TP should only make more crits, no? Ifrit.Eikechi said: but don't most of the crit WSs have standard TP bonuses? (and ya you're right, i did read that wrong :P)... Cuz I know some crit WSs do have a set TP value for fTP (atleast I think pummel does) edit: I just looked up Pummel and Smite on the wiki and it says that the 3 TP anchors are all the same (.75 for pummel (needs verification) and 2.25 for Smite)... so wouldn't adding fTP actually not do much at all? Isn't that what the fTP is? Those anchor points and the values assigned to them? If they stay the same, adding TP should only make more crits, no? ex: using the numbers you posted. Pummel would increase to .85 with a gorget, and Smite would increase to 2.35. so the gorget/belt is good on pummel, because relative to its native value, the increase is rather large, right? (considering pummel's value is so low) and adversely, not so good for smite, because its such a smaller percentage? (and yes i'm friggin confusing it for TP bonus again, just looking at it from a different perspective.... through my mistake, i actually understand it perfectly now lulz)... and i think the fTP debate was made on another WS build topic (and i think thats where i got my above statement.....i think lol) don't mind the ramblings, just set me straight please lol
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