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I find the comments about the cast weird as hell that's all. I thought people's "normal" reaction would be:

"Is Ridley Scott on it?" Or "Ohhh Michael Green wrote it" because those are the director and writer who worked on previous ones.

I thought the "right" reaction would be digging writer and producers past work then comment on it. Because THEY will be the one who decide if 2099 will successfully explore the core theme of this IP, which is all that matters. Why does the actors and money even matter?

Is comment on actors and money a "valid" opinion? Sure. But it is a "valid" opinion from very different group of people who cares about different things in my eyes. Call me elitist gate keeper if you want. Blade runner IP has a very special place in my heart. And the 2 movies were both commercial failures precisely because of how niche and unique it is. I don't want a bunch of outsiders or tourists turn this IP into mainstream.

(My tolerance on tourists ruining art also gets much weaker recently after Wuchang story theme change incident.)

So yup, needs to confirm what group did Nynja belongs before I consider his opinion valid. I am an evil elitist gate keeper, sorry!

Btw, it is 5am.

You two nerds, get back to sleep .

Ok, now it is 7am, so you guys can resume your bickering.

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One question: Does it come in RED?

One more: Where's the hat?

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So from Afanias rant, I can safely and confidently *** he has no idea what my original post meant.

Seems as though they've decided not to make a second season of original sin, despite it being fantastic.

Not financial reasons, but they would rather focus on Dexter sequel, than prequel.

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Hi Nynja, good morning. How's your sleep?

Well, you didn't answer my original question about whether you've watched them or not, nor you answered why did you need to Google the character if you've watched it. You only dodged the question over and over!

Until you've proven that you cared, your opinion about an IP that you didn't care remained invalid regardless.

You also missed the point of the question with this statement btw.

It's okay, I don't understand you just like you don't understand me. We equal!

An expensive cast? I have my doubts, nobody is throwing money at the casting budget right now.

It's Blade Runner, everyone will have doubts for literally anything.

People ***on 2049 before it's out. People ***on the OG film and said the book is better. Even the writer of the book trashed Ridley Scott's film for quite some time because he didn't like the film direction, then he changed his opinion in the end.

Having doubt on the newer titles using this IP was soooo normal.

I'd rather wait and see how the final product is.

I'm just saying I would expect one recognizable name followed by a whole bunch of nobodies. All the money will go elsewhere in production.

Well....I checked the actor list and the only name that I know of is just Michelle Yeoh. I happened to quite like her as an actress anyways.

So for me the cast is technically "one recognizable name followed by a whole bunch of nobodies" already lol.

I personally cared about Ridley Scott and Michael Green's involvement way more because they worked on previous titles.

Ah yes, Afania knows that people ***on the film that was released in [checks notes] 1982.

Yup. I've read all kinds of opinions from people within BR fandom because I frequently read other people's opinions about those titles. There are tons of people who prefer the book not the film.

I've also read about philip k ***'s own opinion on the 1982 film too, despite he died so long ago. I just go do research what he said about the film before he died.

I guess it's so surprising to you because you didn't care about this IP enough to study all the history and fan opinion about those works. That's why you didn't know who Roy Batty was and you were so surprised that I knew people's opinions about a 1982 film in the fandom by being in the fandom and read other people's opinions.

From your post history I can safely and confidently assume that you and I just belong to different worlds regarding this IP. Admit it, Nynja. It's okay to admit you weren't that much of a fan of an IP that you don't feel passionate about.

I am a HUGE P. K. *** fan. I read the book long before the movie came out. I liked the movie and I understand just why *** trashed the movie.

1, The movie took vast liberties with his plot.

2, The movie had a hero. P. K. ***'s works rarely have have heroes.

3, The name of the book is "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" The name, Bladerunner, was bought from an Alan E. Nourse book.



I also understand why he came around to liking the movie.

While the move did rewrite much of the plot it stayed true to his vision and the questions proposed in the book. None of those questions were the title question BTW.

IMHO the movie was much more accessible* than the book. ***'s books and even his short stories can be heavy reading.

*in the literary meaning.

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I love PKD too. His works and philosophy really inspired me in many ways. That's why Blade runner has such a special place in my heart.

Imo PKD's core theme is really all about social commentary. He challenged the power structure of the society and the reality/identity brought by technology. As well as man-made entity's role within the human society.

IMO some parts of both movie explored this core theme quite well. In the 1982 film it explored replicant, man-made memory and their role in human society. In 2049 it explored AI and their behavior, as well as their relationship with the user.

If you look at how AI behave today, it's shockingly similar to how AI(Joi) behave in BR 2049. They all seemingly say things that the user wants to hear, but downright misleading, while looking and sounding like a human. In other words, a fake reality created by technology.

I use ChatGPT today, and I was so shocked that all those were predicted in BR 2049 few years before ChatGPT. And I would say BR 2049 is also very "PKD style" because of this.

This kind of social commentary about the technology, IMO, is what the core theme really is.

I think it's kinda unfortunate that the 2 movies ended up attracting tons of people who is only here for sci-fi, neon-lights, gun actions and hot girl/guys but completely ignored PKD's original social commentary being the core theme. I think that's why some people prefer book.

For me personally, in a Blade runner sequel you either successfully insert such social commentary or fail. Everything else don't matter nearly as much.

I'd recommend Altered Carbon if you are fans of PKD books and Blade Runner.

TV series is very faithful to the book, though I highly recommend the book for the story. It goes into a lot more depth than what the tv series manages, even with two full seasons.

On blade runner - I think a movie is always going to have a hard time fitting in all the themes and plot points of the book.

It's like that movie that was made on Ender's Game. It was good, but in the book the ending is one chapter, few pages.

In the movie, it's half the movie. It kinda skipped a lot.

That second season of altered carbon fell off hard though.

Ender's game, the movie skips half the book, the entire B story.

Looks like he knows a lot more about the material than you. Which probably isn't a high bar to clear.

They recasted the lead actor for some reason that I don't remember. I think they brought in Anthony Mackie and it just tanked. Outside of playing Falcon that guy just doesn't have it.

...I don't like Anthony Mackie in anything. Ugh.

The best role is in twisted metal, and the black mirror episode was good.

It works in the "trying to be funny and bad at it" category. Some B movie, side character ***. Not leading man.

Changing the lead actor is in the book, that's the whole story. It's the same guy, different body - or should be.

But Anthony Mackie was a wrong choice, and was very jarring compared to Season 1's lead.

I'm pro-gatekeeping on IPs I strongly care about.


I'm glad you came to the conclusion that good literature can sometimes predict change and offer insightful social commentary, which (as I recall) is a different attitude towards the topic from the one you had 2 years ago in a conversation we had.

Quite a lot of mid century SF is social commentary. Remember this was the height of the cold war and still quite conscious of the late unlamented House Un-American Activities Committee.

The theme that appears most often in PKD's works is WTF IS real anyway? This starts in his earliest work, way before his druggy period. The first story he wrote "Roog" goes there big time. Its PoV character is a dog.

For those interested in his work I recommend any of his short story collections. Do NOT start with the novel "Valis."

It makes me sad that you guys lack decorum.

I am not sure what literature topic that you are referring to, but I am pretty sure you misunderstood my point back then. My opinion on literature in our society has always been the same, and I was a huge fan of Blade Runner movie x2 and PKD for the same reason wayyyyyyyyyyy before 2023. So the timing isn't even correct if I changed my opinion about them in the past 2 years.

Are you referring to the fact that PKD is anti-capitalism but I am not? And how I see anti-capitalism theme is often exaggerated and simplified (which is a writing technique) in literature? My opinion on the use of exaggeration/simplification writing technique and my personal political stance being different from PKD doesn't affect how I appreciate literature at all, and I think good writing should use those techniques to enhance the experience.

So nothing has been changed.