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 Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-04-01 15:24:56
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The profit comes when you're so addicted you will pay whatever to continue using it and they increase the cost to use. Alternatively, they contract with governments to forward all the personal information you're voluntarily feeding into these models to them. Sora cost an astronomical amount because of the amount of compute required to make a video feel smooth, the other models aren't quite so dire.

As much as I'd love to see all these companies crash and burn, I don't really expect that to be the case. OpenAI and Anthropic are both investing big in building their own datacenters so they don't have to pay for IAAS, which will save them significant amounts on operating costs. During this time, the marginal losses are just deductions for the company anyway and they continue to build addiction. Once they have enough people hooked to change the pricing model, they'll be profitable pretty quickly.

That profit's going to come at the expense of driving up consumer hardware and electricity substantially, because they're already making deals with ***localities to buy cheap power and buying out hardware producers' stock for years in advance. It's going to suck for everyone. But, I don't think they go under anytime soon.
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By Dodik 2026-04-01 15:26:26
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OpenAI is so far removed from being a "startup" it's in a different universe.

Like a lot of things in tech, it's a solution looking for a problem. Some problems *are* suited to the machine learning tools we call AI. General applications like "make this better" are not suited to it otoh.

The publically available AI platforms are in fact crowd sourcing training the AI to humans, which is then used to train new not publicly available AIs. There are even paid jobs for this if you are an expert in a field.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-01 16:37:15
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
They intended to build as fast and as far with government subsidies and then become profitable like literally every other company in existence.

And the only thing any company is trying to make better is the number of zeros in their bank accounts.
The zeros are all injected by venture capital. Not one of those zeros is earned.

Shiva.Thorny said: »
The profit comes when you're so addicted you will pay whatever to continue using it and they increase the cost to use.
But there is no profit, its all burn rate. And their customers are used to a HIGHLY subsidized and totally unreal subscription rate.

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AI is going to be 100 start ups and 98 failures.
Optimistic. The costs of AI services are 10 to 30!!! times the revenues. When reality hits the success rate won't be 2%, it will not even be 0.02%.

What AI needs to become profitable is something like a 1000% increase in throughput with 90% reduction in resource usage.
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-01 17:50:19
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Guys, Im just passing by to declare Im not handsome, Im not strong, and not a genius.
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-01 17:50:36
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Eh, april 1st, you fools!
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-04-01 17:52:46
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April fools ends at noon
Anything attempted after noon makes you the fool

Let it be known that Panta is not handsome, is not strong, and is not a genius.
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-02 05:28:33
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »

Maybe you need to relax a bit

Here is a good video so you can take easy and stop being that grumpy.

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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-04-02 06:27:03
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
And their customers are used to a HIGHLY subsidized and totally unreal subscription rate.
People who've been using it to do their work for 2-3 years aren't going to suddenly go back to doing it the old way, though. Once the habit has been sufficiently established, they can pull the rug and charge profitable rates. There's plenty of data showing that once people become reliant on it, their own ability to produce useful work declines substantially. White collar workers are the perfect market; they can afford to spend quite a bit if not doing so would harm their day to day experience substantially or endanger their role.

Building out their own datacenters gives economies of scale (and power at the expense of the public), so the companies can cut costs substantially in the meantime.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-02 09:25:48
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
economies of scale

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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-04-02 10:38:49
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Would you prefer if I called it vertical integration or purchasing economies? If you have a contrary view, it might be more productive to explain it.

Seems patently obvious to me that owning their own hardware and getting power directly from a plant with an off-grid deal is going to be substantially cheaper than renting datacenter space.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-02 12:17:37
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Seems patently obvious to me that owning their own hardware and getting power directly from a plant with an off-grid deal is going to be substantially cheaper than renting datacenter space.
It should be* but those turbines are a way to get power that bypasses limitations on available grid power. That isn't economies of scale.

xAI built an illegal power plant to power its data center



Economies of scale is getting a discount for buying all those turbines at once.

*I live with some of the cheapest electricity in the nation. NFW are gas turbine power plants cheaper than here. We had to pass special rates to discourage bitcoin mining.

They are probably cheaper than Con Edison or Florida power and light.
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By Dodik 2026-04-03 05:53:29
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Man, wtf was that episode of Invincible. Traumatised.
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By mhomho 2026-04-03 07:27:39
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Guys I have a confession to make. I like men.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-04-03 08:41:03
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Dodik said: »
Man, wtf was that episode of Invincible. Traumatised.

Disembowlment, gross, sure, but naw. Rey being eaten was traumatic. Vore weirds me the *** out.
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By mhomho 2026-04-03 10:23:57
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Sometimes I like rewatching Cumtown bits.
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By Dodik 2026-04-03 10:35:08
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Rey being eaten was traumatic.

That didn't bother me. This guy.. I may never eat sausage again.

mhomho said: »
I like men.

Shocking.
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By mhomho 2026-04-03 10:42:19
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Stahp, sis. You're dehydrated.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-04-03 11:13:38
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-04-03 11:14:04
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inb4: thats homophobic

no, it goes both ways

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By Pantafernando 2026-04-03 11:54:41
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
inb4: thats homophobic

no, it goes both ways


You asked for this, not my fault.
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-03 11:56:00
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mhomho said: »
I like men.

Find a church, leave those impure thoughts behind.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-04-03 13:18:16
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Pantafernando said: »
What an ugly, weak, stupid looking dog
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-03 13:25:23
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thats cynophobic
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-04-03 14:08:54
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Ill add it to the list of all the -phobics and -ists I already am

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By mhomho 2026-04-03 15:30:31
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It's ok Nyn. I'll take you as you are.
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-03 15:38:12
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-04-03 20:04:07
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Damn. This Good Luck Have Fun Dont Die movie is kinda awesome. Like a funny terminator.

Never saw anyone talk about it, review it or even mention it. Just completely under the radar.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-04 08:42:49
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Vindication!!!
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-04 09:02:33
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One of the laziest posts
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-04 09:17:28
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Pantafernando said: »
One of the laziest posts
But yummy!
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