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By Afania 2025-03-21 11:23:47
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No I'm saying if someone was trying to cure that form of cancer because their investors thought it was a good way to make a strong quarter and recover from a bad public showing or image, it would not be empathy based.

Multiple reasons behind an action can co-exist on the same time. But Does it even matter what's the real driving force behind the action? If the end result is the same, that's all that matters.

I don't really care if someone invest in cancer research for moral/empathy reason, money reason or PR reasons. I only care if this research has successful increased average human lifespan as a whole.

If someone wants to contribute because empathy, great for them. Doesn't erase the contribution of people who contribute for different reasons.
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By Josiahafk 2025-03-21 11:37:38
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Afania said: »
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
No I'm saying if someone was trying to cure that form of cancer because their investors thought it was a good way to make a strong quarter and recover from a bad public showing or image, it would not be empathy based.

Multiple reasons behind an action can co-exist on the same time. But Does it even matter what's the real driving force behind the action? If the end result is the same, that's all that matters.

I don't really care if someone invest in cancer research for moral/empathy reason, money reason or PR reasons. I only care if this research has successful increased average human lifespan as a whole.

If someone wants to contribute because empathy, great for them. Doesn't erase the contribution of people who contribute for different reasons.
oh interesting. you made the argument that the billionaire is more likely to contribute to humanity as a whole, and when I responded in kind stating the empathy-based billionaire is more likely to chose that type of action to contribute to humanity as a whole, and the same point no longer seems to hold weight with you.

Is a higher chance important to you or not?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-03-21 12:05:08
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Afania said: »
How many billionaires out there purposely go out of their way to cause tremendous suffering and poverty? And what did they do? Give me some real examples please.
Without putting much thought into it: Musk. The Sacklers. The Krupps. If I can name corporations the list would be much longer.
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By Afania 2025-03-21 12:10:44
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Josiahafk said: »
oh interesting. you made the argument that the billionaire is more likely to contribute to humanity as a whole, and when I responded in kind stating the empathy-based billionaire is more likely to chose that type of action to contribute to humanity as a whole, and the same point no longer seems to hold weight with you.

Is a higher chance important to you or not?

Huh? I didn't deny the power of empathy as one driving force. But I don't know if someone takes an action, it's 100% empathy based or 50% profit based + 50% empathy based or other combination like 30:70 or 60:40. This kinda of things can't be measured with data.

I only said when someone takes an action, it's frequently because multiple reasons. Someone can research for profit and empathy.

One thing that I know for sure, if you hire a talented researcher and give him 0 or little money to work on the next cancer research project. They may feel motivated to work in the beginning because of empathy, after months and years they may eventually burn out.

IMO, other benefit is still an important driving force for actions.
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By Afania 2025-03-21 12:13:09
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Afania said: »
How many billionaires out there purposely go out of their way to cause tremendous suffering and poverty? And what did they do? Give me some real examples please.
Without putting much thought into it: Musk. The Sacklers. The Krupps. If I can name corporations the list would be much longer.


What'd Musk do that exploit millions and made them suffer tremendously?

All I see it's just him posting political ***on X and fire employees, is listening to his political ***really "tremendous suffering for millions people" lol?
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By Pantafernando 2025-03-21 12:43:07
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