No I'm saying if someone was trying to cure that form of cancer because their investors thought it was a good way to make a strong quarter and recover from a bad public showing or image, it would not be empathy based.
Multiple reasons behind an action can co-exist on the same time. But Does it even matter what's the real driving force behind the action? If the end result is the same, that's all that matters.
I don't really care if someone invest in cancer research for moral/empathy reason, money reason or PR reasons. I only care if this research has successful increased average human lifespan as a whole.
If someone wants to contribute because empathy, great for them. Doesn't erase the contribution of people who contribute for different reasons.
How many billionaires out there purposely go out of their way to cause tremendous suffering and poverty? And what did they do? Give me some real examples please.
Without putting much thought into it: Musk. The Sacklers. The Krupps. If I can name corporations the list would be much longer.
oh interesting. you made the argument that the billionaire is more likely to contribute to humanity as a whole, and when I responded in kind stating the empathy-based billionaire is more likely to chose that type of action to contribute to humanity as a whole, and the same point no longer seems to hold weight with you.
Is a higher chance important to you or not?
Huh? I didn't deny the power of empathy as one driving force. But I don't know if someone takes an action, it's 100% empathy based or 50% profit based + 50% empathy based or other combination like 30:70 or 60:40. This kinda of things can't be measured with data.
I only said when someone takes an action, it's frequently because multiple reasons. Someone can research for profit and empathy.
One thing that I know for sure, if you hire a talented researcher and give him 0 or little money to work on the next cancer research project. They may feel motivated to work in the beginning because of empathy, after months and years they may eventually burn out.
IMO, other benefit is still an important driving force for actions.
How many billionaires out there purposely go out of their way to cause tremendous suffering and poverty? And what did they do? Give me some real examples please.
Without putting much thought into it: Musk. The Sacklers. The Krupps. If I can name corporations the list would be much longer.
What'd Musk do that exploit millions and made them suffer tremendously?
All I see it's just him posting political ***on X and fire employees, is listening to his political ***really "tremendous suffering for millions people" lol?
They have invented the anti AI AI tool. I can see this degenerating into a recursive spiral of an anti anti AI AI programing duel. And do remember that AI is doing coding now ...
Why do these ppl think we solo every content with trusts still? I think we now have our own version of boomers that climbed up the hills in snow to get to school
I just watched a video that spoilered all Hunter x Hunter past the point I dropped it (because I was waiting it to be concluded).
Maybe for a good reason. That video had the objective of analyzing Gon as a character.
While at first glance just a typical shonen protagonist, strong, innocent and dumb, when you look at his context (being a kid abandoned by his father), the obsession to find the father meaning how he is still hurt by that despite not voicing it, the way how he idolize his father, as an attempt to cope his situation, the many kamikaze attacks being used showing how little self steem he has because exactly being given up by his father, all that shows a deeply complex and dark character that is not innocent and dumb as I thought at first, but being dumb and innocent is only a way to mask how deeply injured he is in his heart.
Kinda amazing understanding the message being exposed in front of me, but only noticed when you stop seeing the story for what it tell and start seeing if for what it is.
I completely get the gist of the Gon arc what destroyed my experience when i reread Hunter x Hunter, but considering im too dumb to get the hidden messages in things, im forced to admit that it was worth
In the end, HxH is a story about a kid accepting the abandonment, dealing with so many complex feelings, and eventually moving on.
Curious which arc you stopped reading at.
Regarding the Gon character analysis, I think this take is reading too much into Gon's character (and I understand that a lot of people enjoy that in fiction). He's not intended to be that deep. Check the timestamped part from an interview with Togashi (10:23 if the timestamp doesn't work):
Mito isn't his aunt. She is not biologically related in any way to Gon's mother. She is Ging's cousin. There is a crazy theory about "who" Gon's mother might be. This video might entertain you:
Back then, chimera ants was ongoing so I stopped right at the end of Greed Island, when Gon meet Kaito.
According to the spoiler, that Gon dark side worsened when Kaito was caught by Neferpitou, and when after that, I was definitively creeped out when I saw Gon expressions, actions and thoughts. He was definitively broken the the outcoming of Neferpitou and Kaitou, that manifested throught the fight he was definitively not ok in his mental, and I dare said if this was not a shonen, he would be lost forever.
About reading too much, I think the greatest stories are the ones who allows for multiple ways of interpreting it, and is written so good that every interpretation is feasible and valid. Definitively HxH is a masterpiece of story, you can watch it as a basic shonen, and that is fine, then when you reread it when adult you start seeing another interpretation, so its like watching another story with the same story,
At first glance, all main cast can be read as basic shonen heroes, Gon being the innocent and dumb kid, Killua being the cool bad boy and Kurapika being the smart and cold guy. But its also valid each of them had situations that, in real world, would definiively leave psychological scar in real humans: Gon was abandoned by his father and is so obsessed to find him that he is willing to give up his integrity. Killua is abused by his family and seek in Gon the psychological support to suppress his depression. Kurapika had his entire village killed, and he also gave up all his own existence to his vendetta.
It's literally one of THE MOST common shonen manga trope that hero's friend got killed, then the hero gained great power from his rage and sadness.
I wasn't surprised at Gon's transformation in chimera ants arc one bit, because that's the most natural character development in a shonen manga. My reaction at that time was more like "oh boy, not this trope again, cliche!" (And this was also the most common reaction in hxh community back then.)
The presentation of the transformation was still done well imo, so there is nothing bad with it. I just wouldn't call it a surprising development.
Why do these ppl think we solo every content with trusts still? I think we now have our own version of boomers that climbed up the hills in snow to get to school Jeuno
About reading too much, I think the greatest stories are the ones who allows for multiple ways of interpreting it, and is written so good that every interpretation is feasible and valid. Definitively HxH is a masterpiece of story, you can watch it as a basic shonen, and that is fine, then when you reread it when adult you start seeing another interpretation, so its like watching another story with the same story
Eh, I'm not entirely on that team when it comes to evaluating literature's worth, at least not without nuance (that I feel lazy to formulate in points - I'll just say that "necessity" and "sufficiency" are not to be conflated). You're entitled to you reader's response and how much significane you attribute to a story or how much you wanna read into it, but I'm more concerned here with the author's intention that he made clear: make Gon simple & easy to write, and what's evident from 400+ chapters: that the manga is more about the world and the supporting cast that Gon himself. (Ironically, the "most common shounen manga trope" Afania mentioned is used as an excuse by Togashi to kick Gon out of scene for over a decade, lol)
Huh, I actually like how Gon's story just ended that way(hopefully, at least) after he pulled his shonen manga trope trump card.
At least that made hxh kinda different from the rest, lol. If he just recovers and continue to grow in subsequent story, then hxh is really no different from other shonen titles.
If Gon comes back to action after current arc ends then Id be disappointed....
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
