Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

Brazil is home of many and many japanese before the globalizatio. So much we always had a district that has japanese style in our biggest city in country.

Surely we had beforehand what was trending in japan, way before internet.

A Kaffy on Bahamut shouted asking for Aurore for mules or something, so I sent a set :O

But the question is: was it the right choice?

DBZ was THE representation shonen Manga in the 90s era. So literally anywhere with Otaku culture influence, you should see fans of DBZ.

Before DBZ the representation of shonen Manga was Saint Seiya in the 80s. But I don't think anime/Otaku culture was globalized outside of Asia back in the 80s. So DBZ is probably the beginning wave of anime globalization.

Earlier than Akira?

NVM! Dragonball came out way earlier

Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon were two of the most influential anime franchises in popularizing anime globally. Remember Toonami?

Akira too.

<3 I gave away my 6 box setup and made a pair of tarus to screw around with. Got free cruor with Abyssea campaign up but I appreciate it!

I knew it was a bad choice

I never feel Akira ever become mainstream tbh. It's influential in terms of artistic direction, for sure. But I feel it's only popular within smaller circle of Otaku community.

Mainstream 80s anime would be something like Doraemon, Captain Tsubasa, Ranma 1/2 and My Neighbor Totoro maybe? Those shows are more suitable for kids therefore influenced entire generation of kids in the 80s living in certain regions. Then if you talk about more shonen category then maybe OG Dragonball, Saint Seiya and fist of the north star?

Akira feels more mature, which makes it more of a niche IP imo.

Ninja Scroll, Akira, DBZ, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece. Those are the only ones I'd recognize or say are mainstream in US when I was younger. But I guess it depends what all you are exposed to. Obviously I enjoy ninjas and samurais.

DBZ/Sailor Moon/Cowboy Bebop/Pokemon are probably the major anime IP that made anime popular in the west.


Yeah, anime enters western entertainment market relatively late, so that was late 90s/early 2000. And most popular titles in the west tend to be late 90/2000 titles.

On Toonami, Sailor Moon always came first before DBZ. Boys tried to ignore it but ended up having a crush anyway.

Sailor Moon created gooners who happened to be addicted to Mithra. I mean, look at all FFXI doujinshi!

All joking aside, I think the creator of Sailor Moon was an hentai artist.

Welcome to the world of shoujo manga. It's called "shoujo"(young girl) but the content often includes all kinds of sexual undertone, lol.

Sailor Moon wasn't the only shoujo manga that's like that, lol.

While DB is (naturally) popular in many regions, Latin America is especially obsessed with DB. Their love & passion for the franchise, and the sheer volume of fan content they produce is probably unmatched. It even extends beyond "otaku culture" and is effectively part of the mainstream culture. Who else aside from Panta here keeps making "form" jokes?

It's kinda similar to KOF: Latinos do play all kinds of fighting games, but KOF has special status, to the point that a Mexican state governer made a joke about not using Rugal in KOF, referring to how some arcade cabinets would have "PROHIBIDO CON JUGAR RUGAL" signs attached to them.

In the Arab region, you don't have DB, you have stuff like Grendizer and Captain Tsubasa that achieved mainstream status, because those shows were broadcast on national TVs in the 80s, so every kid watched them (plus Football is popular here). There's no shortage of "Captain Majed" parodies, I (sadly) know plenty of CT gacha whales, and there's a freaking 33.7 meter-high (that's 110 ft 6 in for our overseas friends) giant statue of Grendizer in the Boulevard World entertainment complex in Riyadh (and I often joke that the only thing left is to put him on the national flag).

DB received an Arabic dub only in the early 2000s, so exposure in the years prior was limited to die-hard otakus with the means to import popular English-dubbed anime or travel and buy it abroad (stuff like DBZ and Ranma 1/2)

I mean, Toriyama's work wasn't exactly "PG". And wait till you've seen what mangaka like Nagai Go (the defining father of the Super Robot genre) made. Even Tezuka probably made some ecchi stuff.

While that's might be true, it still didn't make him an hentai artist though. His work was to focus on both young people and adults. In Japan, Dragon Ball includes some light sexual humor, like between Bulma and Master Roshi, but it's all meant to be funny and entertaining for both kids and adults. A lot of parents in the west believed that anime is just for kids, so they think it needs to be censored. Toriyama might be a bit of a pervy, but his style was similar to Robin Williams. Robin was all about entertaining everyone, making jokes that appealed to both kids and adults, even if he tossed in some colorful language now and then. Some light sexual content is just too much for kids in the west nowadays.

Hmmm interesting. I thought DB was in middle east a bit earlier than early 2000 since I know Captain Tsubasa was popular there. I guess Otaku culture influence wasn't as strong as I thought, only 1-2 IP were strong at that time.

Nowadays? :p Western publishers has been censoring Sailor Moon since late 90. They flat out removed all the LGBTQ content and changed character's gender/romantic relationship for conservative reasons.

And many anime style works got censored one way or another wayyyyy before "woke" became a thing. It wasn't new.

Edit: Fun fact, I watched the uncensored sailor Moon back in early 90 then watched the English/NA version in the late 90. It was a truly wtf moment in my life to see certain character got changed completely in the west lol.

Yes, there are several old movies that have light sexual humor that appealed to kids in the USA. Like Scooby-Doo, Ratatouille, Shrek, and The Cat in the Hat for example. Maybe, the me-too movement forced studios to stop doing that.



More like a religious problem. Like how much Christians wanted FF6 content to be censored. The spell "Holy" was renamed "Pearl". I could list many things.

Not every conservative is a deeply religious Christian, but many of them aren't into seeing gay themes in their entertainment. "Stop touching mah favorite game/movie!" In the Arab world, showing support for gay scenes might get you beheaded.

Why did you give Afania your ffxi account?

Two words: Speed Racer.

There are 4 here, maam.

I was writing a post about this retcon topic because this Evangelion sequels I only now learned (due to youtube recommendation), but it was getting way bigger that what I can care.

But not to trash all idea, the overall is: Im old, i love the originals, I dont believe anything thats coming after will even be compared in terms of quality with originals. To begin with, I was you ger when I read/watched the original so obviously nothing will re emulate that feeling.

So, retcons arent meant for me (or the niche i represent). It aims younger people, that potentially would never pick an ancient story. So, very unlikely I would enjoy something is clearly not interested in please me

Or maybe it is not account change, just great preference spreads like it should ;)

More! Way more!

The Arabic dub movement was strong in the 80s (goes back to the late 70s) and early 90s, and some of the big hits include Future Boy Conan (an early Miyazaki work), Treasure Island (based on the famous novel, my dad would watch it with us because he read the novel), Nobody's Boy Remi, Plawres Sanshiro (Plastic, computer-controlled mini robots wrestling in rings as a sport!), and Aizenborg (an early Tokusatsu work by Tsuburaya Productions that blended animation with Tokusatsu-style live action).

Aizenborg was so popular (my childhood hero!) that when a random Saudi dude visited Tsuburaya & they saw how passionate he was about it, they just gave him the original masks of the hero and the villain for him to take back to his even more-passionate brother as a gift. This brother then went to Tsuburaya and made a mini-dcoumnetary about the show with them, including a short Toksuatus + animated movie with the original Japanese cast reprising their roles.

World Masterpiece Theatre productions were also a popular dubbing choice. Many shows are fondly remembered to this day because most of them are tragic and feature a tragic little girl (usually an orphan, some times looking for the parent that's still alive lol..) in the lead role. E.g. Heidi, Sarah, Perrine, Pollyanna, Nobody's Girl Remi (just a remake of the original boy show, lol).


The English dub of this one used to air on the Saudi Channel 2 (the English language Saudi channel)

Did those 70s title arrive in late 80s-early 90s in your region? Because those titles were released like 5+ years before "my childhood". I am only familiar with titles that's a bit newer.

Captain Tsubasa was released in 1983-1986 for example, so it's part of my childhood too. But anything from 70s era probably wasn't popular anymore in the 80s. Doraemon and Osamu Tezuka's work (like Astro boy) was an exception though.

I've watched future boy conan a few times when I was a kid, but it wasn't really popular in the 80s anymore. And I think the only reason why it was on TV at that time was because of Miyazaki's name. Miyazaki's work in the 80s-90s pretty much replaced all of his earlier works in terms of popularity in my childhood (the 80s era)

Hold my beer wine.

I also remember that. It was aired on Cartoon Network in late 90s.

I don’t really watch anime much these days. After the 100th episode of Naruto, it killed my enjoyment of the entire anime. Rock Lee was so much better in arts of fighting in my opinion. The only thing I still like about anime is playing a video game based on it.

I remember seeing Speed Racer on Cartoon Network, together with a couple other series, like that american sentai with heros being bird-like.

Me, in my horny young years, always looking at the hot chick every single of those old shows had. There were always a Daphne-like chick in every show. Purposelly there to arouse those filthy young boys.

Like this:

Early 80s, so titles like Conan (78) would be only around 4 years old, but it wasn't uncommon for a decade-old title to be dubbed a decade later. Release year didn't matter much in the choice, since a decade-old show still looked good to a novel audience of kids with no frame of reference to compare the old to the new. And many of the titles were timeless classics in terms of their themes.

A studio that opened in 2000 and dominated the industry started dubbing "newer" stuff like Slam Dunk and Meitantei Conan & then expanded to the more recent shounen like One Piece and Naruto.