Bahamut.Raenryong said:
WAR (which is in dire need of a stone-age nerf)
Hey. HEY. War is just fine, k?
Is There A Empryean Weapon That Outshines Others
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Is there a empryean weapon that outshines others
Hey. HEY. War is just fine, k?
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Bahamut.Raenryong said: Oh, I don't think THF can keep up with WAR (which is in dire need of a stone-age nerf) or a max gear SAM or DRG, but it's certainly pretty strong. I can't really make any comment on new content because I simply don't know :( I do feel people underestimate DRG though. 5 hit OaT polearm with capped Haste - outside of Abyssea - is pretty strong! Drakesbane is pretty much Empyrean-tier if slightly below.
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Bahamut.Dasva said: Can you actually get a 5 hit using a good ws set while having capped haste outside of abyssea with masa? You do realize that you will most likely have to tp in a good 85+ store tp total so 50 in gear to accomplish that right? Capped haste with Hasso bonus on pants, 56 stp. I don't have a Masamune or the desire to get one, so this is just with stuff added off the top of my head, not an optimal set. Can swap w/e to balance tp phase vs ws. According to this 57 stp would allow you to ws with 0 stp and keep a 5, so there should be a decent amount of wiggle room. I'd mess around with it in calc, but I'm not at home at the moment. War has the best AoE WS in the game, huge blue/red proc flexibility, strongest DD capability and Retaliation isn't half bad. Not overpowered?
Asura.Yunalaysca said: solara what are you getting at by constantly bringing up "stacking" if you're a thf and your timer for SA is up, use rudra, if it isnt, then dont. if your a dancer and striking flourish is up, use rudra, if it isnt then dont. WS doesnt always make the weapon but the stats on the weapon itself. I don't disagree with that, and I said as much in my initial response. I was only using that because the initial statement was that Rundra did as much damage as Fudo when stacked. Hence "I disagree that stacking a ws is ever ideal, but I'll use the stacked numbers for comparison." Asura.Solara said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Can you actually get a 5 hit using a good ws set while having capped haste outside of abyssea with masa? You do realize that you will most likely have to tp in a good 85+ store tp total so 50 in gear to accomplish that right? Ukonvasara can't do this though:
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Yeah that's only 24% haste. Enhance Hasso is magical haste.
Bahamut.Dasva said: Asura.Solara said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Can you actually get a 5 hit using a good ws set while having capped haste outside of abyssea with masa? You do realize that you will most likely have to tp in a good 85+ store tp total so 50 in gear to accomplish that right? Phoenix.Fredjan said: Ukonvasara can't do this though: :3 no job can do that! Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Asura.Solara said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Can you actually get a 5 hit using a good ws set while having capped haste outside of abyssea with masa? You do realize that you will most likely have to tp in a good 85+ store tp total so 50 in gear to accomplish that right? Bahamut.Dasva said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Asura.Solara said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Can you actually get a 5 hit using a good ws set while having capped haste outside of abyssea with masa? You do realize that you will most likely have to tp in a good 85+ store tp total so 50 in gear to accomplish that right? Bahamut.Dasva said: Asura.Solara said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Can you actually get a 5 hit using a good ws set while having capped haste outside of abyssea with masa? You do realize that you will most likely have to tp in a good 85+ store tp total so 50 in gear to accomplish that right? Is it? I only saw the very initial testing with reraise where it was assumed to be gear, and never paid attention again. If that's the case, the Bustle Dirs set on the previous page works, and zelus tiara + carbonara would work as well while allowing you to keep magic haste from the legs. There's room for flexibility while capping haste on Sam due to the stp options available. Edit: Man, a lot of posts popped up while I was typing this. player 2 hit or gtfo
3 hit zanshin build or gtfo!
You mentioned earlier that aftermath ODD only procs on the empy itself? Is this true? I thought it was offhand as well, seeing as the aftermath is an actual status effect, not just a hidden weapon effect.
Bahamut.Raenryong said: War has the best AoE WS in the game, huge blue/red proc flexibility, strongest DD capability and Retaliation isn't half bad. Not overpowered? needs buffs Bahamut.Raenryong said: War has the best AoE WS in the game, huge blue/red proc flexibility, strongest DD capability and Retaliation isn't half bad. Not overpowered? Go try to fulltime hasso on heroes NMs w/o a gang of whms (cause if mnk or nin tank can just swap gang of whms to gang of more mnks and nins > singular war w/ gang of healers) Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: War has the best AoE WS in the game, huge blue/red proc flexibility, strongest DD capability and Retaliation isn't half bad. Not overpowered? Go try to fulltime hasso on heroes NMs w/o a gang of whms (cause if mnk or nin tank can just swap gang of whms to gang of more mnks and nins > singular war w/ gang of healers) Hasso? Counterstance or gtfo. If you're war/mnk you're no longer the strongest DD.
minus hasso, you may as well just put a mnk in there. Also shaves a hit off your xhit, losing even more dmg.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: If you're war/mnk you're no longer the strongest DD. minus hasso, you may as well just put a mnk in there. You either missed or ignored the joke. *tsk tsk* I've seen a number of people war/mnk on my server, so difficult to take that as a joke.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: I've seen a number of people war/mnk on my server, so difficult to take that as a joke. It's totally for those two hth blue procs they'd gain. Totally. (maybe only 1 gained from /mnk, idr) Bismarck.Josiahfk said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: I've seen a number of people war/mnk on my server, so difficult to take that as a joke. hasso doesn't work on h2h weps, right? unless it does... in that case it'd just be straight up broken and idk why everyone isn't mnk/sam, but i don't think it does.. so... Bismarck.Josiahfk said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Also... 4 hit or gtfo! Bahamut.Dasva said: 3 hit zanshin build or gtfo! Pandemonium.Alexanderofodin said: player 2 hit or gtfo |
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