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Yeah that's why I said that. Sounded like someone told him none of the stats apply without the full set, which would be incorrect.
Ifrit.Eikechi said: there is no armor that lists haste under set effect i dont think unless i'm missing one i didn't catch Perle Set Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: there is no armor that lists haste under set effect i dont think unless i'm missing one i didn't catch Perle Set no i meant out of AF3+2 are the +1's and +2's even available yet.. those are what harness the "set bonus" the regulars dont... im wondering if you can proceed on that geared path but not get the upgrades yet, not till the release of the other body and hands
or are the upgrades available now? you can farm those items in new abyssea now i believe to upgrade to +2...why would they put in such wonderful items, with the corresponding trials, without being able to complete them.....?
Phoenix.Degs said: are the +1's and +2's even available yet.. those are what harness the "set bonus" the regulars dont... im wondering if you can proceed on that geared path but not get the upgrades yet, not till the release of the other body and hands or are the upgrades available now? They're all in the game just getting the +2 versions of all of them will take a lot of work. And the set bonus from harness comes from each peice, you don't have to wear the full set to be able to get the counter from it. Look at the page and you'll see. with the other recent "set bonus'" you have to wear at least two to get the stat... and it the "stat" from there increases to max from each additional piece you wear.. is this the case also...
and from another post in here, these items are bought with cruor?.. do they initially have any stats on them at all, or are they blank, and as you go through trials they add stats to the gears? they initially have weak stats~
Leviathan.Eburo said: Caitsith.Megara said:  legs:str+8 dex+8 stp+7 haste+4 enhance hasso feet: str+8 acc/att+15 conservTP+6 enhance sengikori Skip to 8:24 for my reaction LOL RIGHT ON !!!!!!!!!! BLU SAM MNK SMN AF 3 <3 Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: Seraph.Rafik said: Caitsith.Megara said:  Omg brb gotta clean myself off seriously though... holy ***! haste+7/double attk+5/attk+15 ON THE SAME PIECE! LOL see you in hell Byakko's Haidate~! Sylph.Krsone said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Sylph.Krsone said: Have to agree with flion somewhat If I know all that I knew now 4 yrs ago I wouldnt of bought hardly anything I own and would of gotten spharai. Instead I pissed around getting ursine claws and mantis+12. I dont care like that much but it would of been fairer if they made weapons which beat relics too, whats the difference between spending 140m and 3 yrs on 1 piece compared to 140m and 3 yrs on lots of different pieces. Why should only the relics and mythics remain safe? *** its a pefect comparison. And I can guess how long a relic trials would take its not totally awful, I know how many mobs each trial is and compared to ursine + mantis+12dmg and doing str attk h2h too if you pissed around doing all 3 probably bout same length of time actually. Relics and Mythics remain safe for a reason. They're what SE regards as the ultimate weapons for the game. They want those specific items to be extremely hard to get and worthwhile when compared to other gear. E.body Homam and the like are nothing compared to a relic/mythic. You can obtain those items in a matter of days. Relics take months to years. As for the relic trials, from 75~80, they're much much worse than any of the other normal trials. 1500~2000 specific criteria must be met, most of which is kill shots. juliao said: they initially have weak stats~ Yea +2 is the only thing people should complain about. That's like saying AF2+1 is rigged. Of course it is beastly. But is it easy to get at ALL? Not really. Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Sylph.Krsone said: Have to agree with flion somewhat If I know all that I knew now 4 yrs ago I wouldnt of bought hardly anything I own and would of gotten spharai. Instead I pissed around getting ursine claws and mantis+12. I dont care like that much but it would of been fairer if they made weapons which beat relics too, whats the difference between spending 140m and 3 yrs on 1 piece compared to 140m and 3 yrs on lots of different pieces. Why should only the relics and mythics remain safe? Yes I know what the relic trials are tyvm and im not comparing just a single piece of homam or ebody to relic either if you even bothered to read. I looked at all the new AF's and I
 Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets
Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. Sylph.Krsone said: Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Sylph.Krsone said: Have to agree with flion somewhat If I know all that I knew now 4 yrs ago I wouldnt of bought hardly anything I own and would of gotten spharai. Instead I pissed around getting ursine claws and mantis+12. I dont care like that much but it would of been fairer if they made weapons which beat relics too, whats the difference between spending 140m and 3 yrs on 1 piece compared to 140m and 3 yrs on lots of different pieces. Why should only the relics and mythics remain safe? Yes I know what the relic trials are tyvm and im not comparing just a single piece of homam or ebody to relic either if you even bothered to read. Didn't insinuate that you did. And you may of read the trials but until you actually obtain a relic and complete the trials, you know nothing about how bad they really are. Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. Sylph.Krsone said: Yes I know what the relic trials are tyvm and im not comparing just a single piece of homam or ebody to relic either if you even bothered to read. It is a bad comparison, every piece of gear is time invested vs reward. Arguing that goes against the very rules that make an MMO. Your time invested yielded x gil and x rewards, vs someone who dedicated the equivalent or more time into one item. Nothing in the whole game comes close to the effort required for a relic/mythic, that's why so few have them.
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Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. $$ ATM. Download the patch from I think Bluegartr are the people that put it up. Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Sylph.Krsone said: Have to agree with flion somewhat If I know all that I knew now 4 yrs ago I wouldnt of bought hardly anything I own and would of gotten spharai. Instead I pissed around getting ursine claws and mantis+12. I dont care like that much but it would of been fairer if they made weapons which beat relics too, whats the difference between spending 140m and 3 yrs on 1 piece compared to 140m and 3 yrs on lots of different pieces. Why should only the relics and mythics remain safe? W/e try argue with me all you want Im still standing by my OPINION and that is put more simply : as it stands as of now if you spent last 3 yrs ish like me farming bout 150m for gear instead of using it for a relic youve made a mistake. As its the only gear they are favouring, you havent done a relic either man so you cant speak from experience either. Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. $$ ATM. Download the patch from I think Bluegartr are the people that put it up. ahh ***man that sucks.. well i hope you get the funds soon!... and thanks for the heads up on B.G. .. ill have to check over there if this next dl and install doesnt fly Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. $$ ATM. Download the patch from I think Bluegartr are the people that put it up. ahh ***man that sucks.. well i hope you get the funds soon!... and thanks for the heads up on B.G. .. ill have to check over there if this next dl and install doesnt fly I should be on next Thurs. Sylph.Krsone said: Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Sylph.Krsone said: Have to agree with flion somewhat If I know all that I knew now 4 yrs ago I wouldnt of bought hardly anything I own and would of gotten spharai. Instead I pissed around getting ursine claws and mantis+12. I dont care like that much but it would of been fairer if they made weapons which beat relics too, whats the difference between spending 140m and 3 yrs on 1 piece compared to 140m and 3 yrs on lots of different pieces. Why should only the relics and mythics remain safe? W/e try argue with me all you want Im still standing by my OPINION and that is put more simply : as it stands as of now if you spent last 3 yrs ish like me farming bout 150m for gear instead of using it for a relic youve made a mistake. As its the only gear they are favouring, you havent done a relic either man so you cant speak from experience either. Exactly what new stats are they giving to relic or other lower level gears through magian?... I havent even seen anything about any of that yet.... either way, though you can still have a great time in game relic or no relic, its not gonna make or break anyones ability to get into parties, or do endgame activities... those that have relic or mythic weapons are still the minority in this game.. not everyone has them.. so even though SE may be bumping the stats on them quite a bit, its still going to be fun either way Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. $$ ATM. Download the patch from I think Bluegartr are the people that put it up. ahh ***man that sucks.. well i hope you get the funds soon!... and thanks for the heads up on B.G. .. ill have to check over there if this next dl and install doesnt fly I should be on next Thurs. Yeah it wasnt really supposed to be a major QQ lol just a personal niggle is all and its what I truly feel :< w/e you can say wont change the fact I wish I did get a relic instead of all this other crap which has plummeted in last few months is all.
Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. $$ ATM. Download the patch from I think Bluegartr are the people that put it up. ahh ***man that sucks.. well i hope you get the funds soon!... and thanks for the heads up on B.G. .. ill have to check over there if this next dl and install doesnt fly I should be on next Thurs. lol thanks anyways xD Sylph.Krsone said: Yeah it wasnt really supposed to be a major QQ lol just a personal niggle is all and its what I truly feel :< w/e you can say wont change the fact I wish I did get a relic instead of all this other crap which has plummeted in last few months is all. Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Leviathan.Remoraforever said: Phoenix.Degs said: Im getting irritated though... all day i have been trying to download and install the update, and it keeps crashing at the same damn point over and over again... guess i wont be doing anything in game for a couple days... freakin blows nuggets Atleast you can get on tommorrow-ish. I can't. So suck it up champ. $$ ATM. Download the patch from I think Bluegartr are the people that put it up. ahh ***man that sucks.. well i hope you get the funds soon!... and thanks for the heads up on B.G. .. ill have to check over there if this next dl and install doesnt fly I should be on next Thurs. lol thanks anyways xD Sylph.Krsone said: Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Sylph.Oddin said: Sylph.Krsone said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Sylph.Krsone said: Have to agree with flion somewhat If I know all that I knew now 4 yrs ago I wouldnt of bought hardly anything I own and would of gotten spharai. Instead I pissed around getting ursine claws and mantis+12. I dont care like that much but it would of been fairer if they made weapons which beat relics too, whats the difference between spending 140m and 3 yrs on 1 piece compared to 140m and 3 yrs on lots of different pieces. Why should only the relics and mythics remain safe? W/e try argue with me all you want Im still standing by my OPINION and that is put more simply : as it stands as of now if you spent last 3 yrs ish like me farming bout 150m for gear instead of using it for a relic youve made a mistake. As its the only gear they are favouring, you havent done a relic either man so you cant speak from experience either. I'm also not the one saying it's just as easy as the normal trials. And spending that money for gear isn't a mistake. It's just part of the game. You can get a relic and have shitty gear and be a laughing stock or you can get great gear and your best weapon barring relic/mythic and be respectable. You obviously chose the correct one. Believe you and me, I know that feeling. I leveled Goldsmithing to 96 and now it's next to useless without further effort in synergy. I've easily put in enough money to fund a relic of my own but I don't regret it. It's all apart of the game.
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