Abyssea - Best Party Setups?

Because getting as close to the haste cap as possible is one of the most important things you can do as a DD.

And if they don't know about that, how much will they truly know about their job?

Agreed, that example is funny though. Were talking 1 less haste% as opposed to Byakko's which are easier to get then Askar head.

Exactly. They are using a clearly inferior choice that is harder to get. It proves they know nothing about how to gear.

It's not about the haste, it's about skill of gearing.

Byakko's haidate is easier to get than Askar head? :p

For sure, I've gone 5/6 in one night w/ EDIT! 12 people. And byakko is easy lol.

I'd say it's easier to shout for a nyzul 100 group than it is to solo-farm byakko popitems.
Diorite sucks ***.
Byakko itself is easy enough, but dont forget the popitems >_>


Edit: failquote

yeah and i ninja'd while you were quoting, was 12 ppl for the 5/6 night. long time ago was long time.

Can be done with 6 now, so same amount of people you "need" for nyzul:P
But I still think it's way easier to shout for a 100 run than it is to farm the stupid popset.

I just realized idc lmao, if somebody wants to spend time farming a Askar head instead of Byakko's Haidate, right on!
Either way, I'm not going to check people before I invite them to exp,
if they really suck then they can get booted when I find a rep. Exp all the while, win.

Line up DD with the mobs weaknesses. ;p
Make the mages use the right magic spells. ;p

Otherwise, abyssea is very forgiving regarding set-ups. Just be smart about it.

Beli! :D

Wow... sounds great. How long does it take for you to get this "perfect" party setup put together during peak hours? Do you add that time into your exp/hour? The reality is, Abyssea mobs adjust to your kill speed so an alliance of 18 bards could pull 40k/hour once they had lights capped. Perhaps thats not enough for you but most people now just go in to cap merits. That takes all of about 3 hours even with a crappy alliance. Hell, I've been in a group that maintained 40k/hour with 12 people. I guess elitists will always be elitists though. Have fun lfp.

For frogs you really should have a COR since they're rather hard to hit and hunter's roll helps. Two BRDs one singing a Madrigal is a fair enough replacement. My favorite setup more or less is at least one BRD/WHM COR/DD DNC DD DD DD party, next party should be as close to this as possible, although I understand it's hard to get BRD COR DNC sometimes.

RDMs can solo Azure just fine, but having BLM for Sleepga really, really really helps, and it's really a must if you don't want to give yourself a headache. Back up cures/hastes from a misc. mage are nice too. DNC should cover *most* of the healing just fine though if they're hasted. Thing I hate about Abyssea is eventually people leave, and I can't afk (as DNC) or people die because we lack appropriate healing. ***sucks.

Dissi! :3 You're a forum poster too?

RDM has a tough time on frogs, though. I experienced this the other night (though I wasn't in all of my nuking gear). I was consistently doing like, 300 damage or something crappy like that with relic pants, af+1 hat, goliard cuffs, teal saio and dark arts, but most of my accessories were MP gear at the time ;-;

Nope! :D

Anyone has a tough time on frogs though. BLM isn't going to make that situation any better. :/

Where have you been? >.> check pms :(

I haven't done them on BLM yet, personally, so I couldn't say. I have a much better resist set on BLM, though. Don't frogs take like half damage from magic or something crappy?

Building on what Nini said; always have some form of flexibility on jobs so people can take breaks. I personally try as much as possible to not over-work or rely on one 'support' for the entire cures. A BLM curing isn't the best use of MP but it will cover for when the WHM needs to afk for a screen break.

Frogs resist EVERYTHING. They're evasive and evil.

WHY DO YOU LIE TO ME D;

Something bad. I was on COR for my LS farming amber, and my leadens were some crappy number like 100-200 with appropriate gear. :s

Best thing is to build 2 different lights at same time , have BLMs manaburn target , while melee build pearlescent light

Regarding Frogs , 2~3 BLMs are must for sleepga , but imo it's hard to manaburn those , just have BLUs for magic kills when you fight frogs.

I... I'm sorry. ;-;
Oh, thank god someone else had a hard time with Leaden Salute. I thought my COR just sucked balls. ; ;

Naw my COR is pretty good with a decent MAB setup for Leaden Salute and I still sucked balls. Normally my damage is like 600~ give or take. :<

All you need is 2 DD's, SCH or BLM (key person), COR/whm or /sch (key person), BRD/nin (key person), and RDM/whm. That's it. One party.

LOL @ frogs comment. If there isnt a competent puller, i usually pull on BLM(2-4 at a time), sleep them all, get two killshots and go grab more. I've had some fail thf/rng/brd/cor pullers who don't understand we want 2-4 sitting at camp.

lol. yeh ive had an epic party on frogs where the blm pulled.. then slept then nuked then pulled etc.. was actually a very close 2nd to the brd.. only difference was he ran out of mp cos he missed evokers! lol

it is good to have a backup sleeper. But at this day and age, if you can't +30/35 enfeeb skill on a sleep macro, you are doing something wrong.