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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2010-02-25 11:34:59
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Give SMNs an Ability that reduces Perp Cost and Avatar DMG but allows those near the Avatar to recieve a little , near useless , bonus AND have that bonus build over time BUT resets to 0 everytime a Bloodpact is used , thus makin the Avatar completely useless save for this insignificant Bonus thus making people think SMN is even more useless and then top it off by makin this weak *** bonus 1.) Not stackable and 2.) only givin to those in the Same PT , not alliance , as said SMN . I mean SMNs stand around doin nothing waiting for an invite and stuff anyway , why not give them an ability that allows them to do that in a PT setting . amiright?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-25 11:41:49
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Footowork, easily.
Defender merits (because you can already keep it up fulltime if you want to, waste of a merit category lowering the recast)
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-02-25 11:41:58
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Because /anon doesn't hide your appearance. People stand in WG and watch BLMs go by and will send them /tells asking for Retrace. Kinda hard to hide your job when you're wearing job specific gear. And before you say unequip your gear, I shouldn't have to cater to asshats that are too lazy to A)level BLM high enough to retrace themselves, B)shout for Retrace with a reward tacked on or C)walk their *** to the nearest Maw.

Could just, you know, ignore them.
I know, sounds tough, but I have faith in you.
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By Pandemonium.Machiaveli 2010-02-25 11:43:13
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I don't think this thread will ever have 1001 posts :p
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 11:52:01
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Because /anon doesn't hide your appearance. People stand in WG and watch BLMs go by and will send them /tells asking for Retrace. Kinda hard to hide your job when you're wearing job specific gear. And before you say unequip your gear, I shouldn't have to cater to asshats that are too lazy to A)level BLM high enough to retrace themselves, B)shout for Retrace with a reward tacked on or C)walk their *** to the nearest Maw.

Could just, you know, ignore them.
I know, sounds tough, but I have faith in you.

Right and you could of ignored my comment that was directed at the obvious joke posted by someone else but instead you chose to respond. It didn't really turn into a bitchfest til people started poking and probing it.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-02-25 11:54:59
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"Oh no, I've been told so I'm going to make it seem like I was joking the whole time."
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 11:56:08
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
"Oh no, I've been told so I'm going to make it seem like I was joking the whole time."

Learn to read. I said I directed my comment at the obvious joke. Never said I was joking. Dumbass.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-02-25 12:02:08
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In that case, why come in a joke thread and get all forcerials with your personal issue about people throwing gil at you but refuse to run around nekkid?
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 12:06:44
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
In that case, why come in a joke thread and get all forcerials with your personal issue about people throwing gil at you but refuse to run around nekkid?

Again, I didn't start bitching til people started asking questions. The first comment was just a simple statement about how it would be better for me if they did take Retrace away from BLM. A small joke so-to-speak but one I actually mean.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2010-02-25 12:12:41
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i thought this was about lame/dumb/broke JAs/Buffs/stuffs not about the pain of being BLM ?
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-02-25 12:15:13
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Fairy.Vegetto said:
Footowork, easily.
Defender merits (because you can already keep it up fulltime if you want to, waste of a merit category lowering the recast)

That's actually a merit on WAR?
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-02-25 12:22:27
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Wait, I'm kind of unsure about what the OP is asking for.

What "buffs" SE gave to jobs that are 100% fail?

Or what "buffs" do we think SE would give said jobs that would be 100% fail?

If it's the first, then I'd say Ninja's Yonin and Innin. They both fail... hard, in that they both share the same five minute cooldown, and once dispelled or paralyze proc's when using them, gg SE.

Why couldn't they just made it work like Hasso and Seigan, I wonder. Give it the same cooldown as those, with the same duration, and make it so they aren't linked. :/
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 12:23:58
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It's your second choice. What buffs we'd most likely see from SE that would be fail.
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-02-25 12:25:30
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Oh, then SE finally giving SAM's Godmode. Definitely.

SE making Samurai Absolute Virtue's only weakness.

SE renaming Final Fantasy XI to Final Samurai XI.

Would be fail if they kept buffing Samurai even more, while giving all the other jobs crappy buffs.

Ninja Editted for more.
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By Sylph.Deckard 2010-02-25 12:28:58
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BRD Piannismo actually lets you play a piano
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By Sylph.Shadida 2010-02-25 12:29:11
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Announcing that RNG would get a enmity reduction based on distance to target and then taking it back in the update notes. God that pissed me off.
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By Asura.Ericka 2010-02-25 12:31:11
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Phoenix.Slytribal said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Bahamut. said:
Take away Retrace and Recall spells from BLM and WHM and give them to SCH. >.> Win for SCHs, fail for those shouting for Retraces.
Win for BLMs actually. I wouldn't get /tells from complete strangers begging me for a Retrace while i'm running through Whitegate on BLM.

As long as they will pay, how is a simple task like that bad?

Because I'm busy and it's a little rude to beg others for something even if they're willing to pay.

Why not just /anon when you're busy on Blm like that?

Because /anon doesn't hide your appearance. People stand in WG and watch BLMs go by and will send them /tells asking for Retrace. Kinda hard to hide your job when you're wearing job specific gear. And before you say unequip your gear, I shouldn't have to cater to asshats that are too lazy to A)level BLM high enough to retrace themselves, B)shout for Retrace with a reward tacked on or C)walk their *** to the nearest Maw.


I remember when BLMs complained about not having something other then Warp II to make some side gil.... Never Thought a BLM would Be pissed at Retrace Tell(s) lol..
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 12:31:18
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Sylph.Shadida said:
Announcing that RNG would get a enmity reduction based on distance to target and then taking it back in the update notes. God that pissed me off.

Yes it did... bad enough the camouflage buff doesn't work for ***, they take away the enmity- which was the most wanted/needed part of the RNG update.
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By Sylph.Deckard 2010-02-25 12:33:07
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MNK get Chiblast2 that has a chance of stun depending on TP
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 12:37:07
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Asura.Ericka said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Phoenix.Slytribal said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Bahamut. said:
Take away Retrace and Recall spells from BLM and WHM and give them to SCH. >.> Win for SCHs, fail for those shouting for Retraces.
Win for BLMs actually. I wouldn't get /tells from complete strangers begging me for a Retrace while i'm running through Whitegate on BLM.

As long as they will pay, how is a simple task like that bad?

Because I'm busy and it's a little rude to beg others for something even if they're willing to pay.

Why not just /anon when you're busy on Blm like that?

Because /anon doesn't hide your appearance. People stand in WG and watch BLMs go by and will send them /tells asking for Retrace. Kinda hard to hide your job when you're wearing job specific gear. And before you say unequip your gear, I shouldn't have to cater to asshats that are too lazy to A)level BLM high enough to retrace themselves, B)shout for Retrace with a reward tacked on or C)walk their *** to the nearest Maw.


I remember when BLMs complained about not having something other then Warp II to make some side gil.... Never Thought a BLM would Be pissed at Retrace Tell(s) lol..

We can't just let it go. I have no problem retracing people when I have time. However that's for people doing /shouts in WG or whatever. They actually use common courtesy and wait patiently for someone to Retrace them. Instead, you get people who beg you through /tell for a Retrace and then get an attitude when you say no.

"What? You can't take 30 seconds to Retrace me?"

No. I can not take 30 seconds to retrace you. I'm busy doing something else. If I wanted to retrace you, I'd of done it but I said no and would like to move on now.

Not to mention money has nothing to do with this. I have plenty of money. I don't need the money from Retraces.
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By Sylph.Shadida 2010-02-25 12:40:33
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Sylph.Shadida said:
Announcing that RNG would get a enmity reduction based on distance to target and then taking it back in the update notes. God that pissed me off.

Yes it did... bad enough the camouflage buff doesn't work for ***, they take away the enmity- which was the most wanted/needed part of the RNG update.

Did anyone ever test the enmity reduction for Camo? I use it but I can't be sure if it has a big effect or not.
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By Sylph.Deckard 2010-02-25 12:45:11
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*Retraces Oddie* shuddup ho...
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-25 12:45:16
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Sylph.Shadida said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Sylph.Shadida said:
Announcing that RNG would get a enmity reduction based on distance to target and then taking it back in the update notes. God that pissed me off.

Yes it did... bad enough the camouflage buff doesn't work for ***, they take away the enmity- which was the most wanted/needed part of the RNG update.

Did anyone ever test the enmity reduction for Camo? I use it but I can't be sure if it has a big effect or not.

I haven't seen anyone do a thorough test on it but from my personal experience, it doesn't seem to be a difference maker.
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-02-25 12:46:04
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Sylph.Shadida said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Sylph.Shadida said:
Announcing that RNG would get a enmity reduction based on distance to target and then taking it back in the update notes. God that pissed me off.

Yes it did... bad enough the camouflage buff doesn't work for ***, they take away the enmity- which was the most wanted/needed part of the RNG update.

Did anyone ever test the enmity reduction for Camo? I use it but I can't be sure if it has a big effect or not.
I have. When I did my own tests in a level 55ish sync, I'd usually pull hate right off the bat after the Paladin would use the initial provoke/flash by the time my 2nd~3rd shot landed.

But when I used Camo and shot behind it after the Paladin's initial provoke/flash, I was able to shoot at least 4~5 times before it noticed me.

Ninja Edit: For reference, I was dealing around ~200 per arrow.
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By Sylph.Deckard 2010-02-25 12:47:14
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Why not find a better tank...
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-02-25 12:47:33
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2 new scholar abilities!
<insert name> Requires 1 stratagem charge, Dark Arts: Increases the potency of your next healing spell by 10%

<insert name> Requires 1 stratagem charge, Light Arts: Increases the potency of your next elemental spell by 10%

That way you can still nuke in Light Arts and heal in Dark Arts!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-25 12:49:13
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Sylph.Deckard said:
Why not find a better tank...

I'd love to meet the tank that can consistently hold hate off a decently geared RNG going all-out against birds.
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By Ragnarok.Zephyran 2010-02-25 12:50:19
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Sylph.Deckard said:
Why not find a better tank...

I'd love to meet the tank that can consistently hold hate off a decently geared RNG going all-out against birds.
Ditto, Lol.
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By Sylph.Deckard 2010-02-25 12:50:49
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No im just being E-sarcastic sorry forgot to hit the button.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-02-25 14:04:05
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Ninja, it was fail when it started, it was fail when it got crappy new JAs, its STILL fail because it was made of 100% home-grown, pure bred FAIL!