Solitaire Cape VS Ixion Cape & Prism Cape

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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-02-23 16:26:23
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Was wondering if anyone had any tests or numbers on how Solitaire Cape matches up against Ixion and Prism Capes for BLM?~
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-02-23 16:28:29
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I would bet it depends what you are fighting,

http://bash74.com/magic/

Try playing around with that.

I would compare to Ixion, as it is better then Prism.
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By Siren.Murdock 2010-02-23 16:30:53
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=16239

Ixion Cape still wins.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-02-23 16:31:29
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What about Gleeman's?
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-02-23 16:32:06
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Bahamut.Zorander said:
What about Gleeman's?

Gleeman's = Ixion?
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-02-23 16:34:57
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Gleeman's

Ixion
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-02-23 16:35:57
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Bahamut.Zorander said:

Where is the problem, they both have INT+5, Ixion has Enm-2 and no -MP, clear winner.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-02-23 16:38:55
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Hmmm..I am not really sure what I was thinking..because yeah thats dumb.

Maybe I was thinking Witch Sash to Penitents? I don't honestly know lol..anywho
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-02-23 16:50:07
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Bahamut.Zorander said:
Hmmm..I am not really sure what I was thinking..because yeah thats dumb.

Maybe I was thinking Witch Sash to Penitents? I don't honestly know lol..anywho

I think you were thinking belts, Sorc Vs Witch Vs Pent maybe.
 
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By Seraph.Gael 2010-02-23 17:36:35
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Ixion and Gleeman's are the same thing in term of damages.

Yes, - 2 enmity on ixion... who cares ? a good blm will take hate anyway.

Convert 20 HP to MP ? Maybe good for galka/elvaan, not a really a good advantage on taru

For the same reason, HP +20, MP-20 is not a bad thing for a taru, especially because they don't count for the sorceror ring

Other thing : ixion got more stat - some ppl dont care, others not, but ixion got also MND +5 so it can save an inventory space but gleeman is rar/ex and ixion is 2M+, but ...

Conclusion it's stupid to say this is better than this cause its a personnal choice...

(and btw alone, ixion/gleeman dont beat solitaire, you have to have a global view...)
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-02-23 17:48:20
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Yea and rdm can use ixion cape too....wait, fml
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-02-23 18:46:08
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It is largely dependent on your setup (mostly MAB though amount of int somewhat affects it as well as mob just not much) and what nuke you are doing.

At around 58 MAB solitaire will nuke about as hard as ixion on AM2. At lower MABs it will outdo it.

For solitaire to win on blizz4 you'd need less than 17 MAB... literally not possible on blm.

Solitaire will pretty much always beat prism on AM2 unless you can manage to get almost 100MAB.

On Blizz 4 you'd need less than about 46MAB for solitaire to win.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-02-23 18:49:04
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Getting Gleeman's and Aslan capes because I have both blm and rdm leveled. Plus 1.5mil for 20 mp doesn't sound like the best use of funds.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-02-23 18:58:20
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Ah but it's 1.5mil for 20 mp AND 30k ampoules. Oh yeah AND invent +1
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-02-23 19:01:22
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If you are in an einherjar shell long enough you run out of things to spend ampoules on. Provided you're not making a lolmythic or crafting with them. The inventory thing wouldn't matter anyway, since I'd be getting an aslan for rdm anyway and would therefore have Aslan + Ixion instead of Aslan + Gleeman's. This way RDM and BLM can use both.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-02-23 19:28:19
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Meh I love my ixion. Even when I get enough ampoules I doubt I'd sell it. And looking back it's actually 40 mp on gleeman since that gives -20 lol!!!

The fact I can't use it on my rdm is kind of a bummer though. Maybe I'll start augmenting prisms soonish. Once I'm satistfied with my weskit.

I have plans for ampoules anyways. I will have a valkryies trews for AM2!!! And maybe check to see if any of the other crafted stuff is even worth using lol
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-02-23 19:34:37
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I put down valkryies hands for the nomad lottery, pretty hot for elemental debuffs and any int based enfeeb on rdm.

The feet look kinda nice too for accuracy. Still think morrigan feet would be best for rdm's para and slow spells unless you just can't land them.

*Edit* Yeah I didn't look at the mp issue right. It's indeed 1.5mil for 40mp.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-02-23 19:40:10
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Hands are ok. Kinda a side grade to slight upgrade but meh not going gaga over.

Feet are ok if you don't have morri. Morri will still win on potency and usulaly will win on macc. Still HQs aren't common so more of a really expensive side/slight upgrade on other stuff available
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-02-23 19:43:53
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Yeah, thats how all Valkryies gear is, even the trews aren't a substantial upgrade to what is available with morrigan legs.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-02-23 19:56:03
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Well even then it is only an upgrade on aga3/T4 unless your MAB is really low to begin with
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By Hades.Hatekhaos 2010-06-15 13:30:18
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How do you guys feel about Hecate's Cape for blm. i Have ixion but dunno if to get this or not.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-15 13:32:11
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With a decent amount of MAB Ixion will still win on T4 but Hecate will do like 8 more dmg on AM2.
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By Asura.Ganth 2010-06-15 13:42:22
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Hecate's cape is barely an improvement but the macc is what made me buy it.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-15 13:45:10
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I wouldn't really buy it for the macc. Except maybe for the blu debuffs that there is no stat adding to macc or it's just unknown. For pretty much all other spells 5int(mnd) will add 2.5-5macc
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-06-15 15:33:51
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BLM speak...

Solitaire = Free. Helps with Sorc Activation, Saves gil, decent back piece overall, if you don't want to spend 300k.

Ixion = Easier to cap Stoneskin, but there are plenty of other options for that. Helps with Sorc Activation, and provides almost as much Mag.Acc as Hec depending on mob. -Emn, who cares.

Hec = No help with activating Sorc, unless you have Sol/Ixi/Prism/HQ to put on before you put on Hec, Mag Acc is nice, dmg is the best, overall it is slightly better than Ixion but a pain in the *** to use by itself.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-15 15:37:29
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If you are going all out hecates on AM2 and probalby aga3 ixion on pretty much everything else for blm.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-06-15 15:43:40
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On Taru probably yeah. On hume it was a fine balance, I figured it out long ago but lazy to rethink it lol.

I just remembered when dmg was under particular point, like around mid 1600s, 2 INT was better than 1 MAB. But 1 INT was not better than .5 MAB. Above that, 1 MAB was better than 2 INT.

To this day I would still kill for Taru INT :P.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-15 15:48:00
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Dint plays a much much much smaller factor in the ratio then tier or MAB.

Amount of dmg has nothing to do directly with the relationship.
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2010-06-15 15:49:00
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I would say that Ixion Cape is better - but I like it so much for the convert HP > MP, making it easier to use Sorcerer's ring without being in yellow HP. I would go for Gleeman's if you don't have sorcerer's ring or easy access(HNMLS, or gil) to an Ixion's Cape. Otherwise, -always- go for the Ixion Cape because of the -enmity.
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