Weird Alt Tab Behavior Is Normal In Windows 11?
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Weird alt tab behavior is normal in Windows 11?
edit: double post, solution at end of last page
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Thank you so much!
Shiva.Thorny said: » I assume windower's works the same way, but if not this should be all the info they need to offer you a fix. Just chiming in to say that Windower uses the exact same flag. Can toggle it in Windower profile advanced tab.
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So I found a new issue.
After this fix I get certain other weird issues. Mostly it's the F1 button that doesn't work. Other times it can be other buttons not working or simply giving me other results. Like pressing the button b in chat gives me random numbers. Pressing the ALT button after the character is in focus fixes it. Kind of like windows wants me to confirm the window with ALT? Anyone else got similar issue? Oh, boy... I stupidly applied the 24h2 update without even thinking it would break anything FFXI related. I use Windower and I'm a heavy multiboxer and now my alt-tab is all messed up. If I'm in one FFXI instance, I alt-tab, it immediately will switch to any non-FFXI window, without showing any preview. From there I can just alt-tab again and it will show the thumbnails for any other instance which I can choose from, but so many decades of muscle memory that "just works" makes everything super annoying.
I am not sure if I should roll back to the previous update or just start "learning" to live with it... it is very frustrating :( Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq said: » I am not sure if I should roll back to the previous update or just start "learning" to live with it... it is very frustrating :( Enabling the Windows key in Windower fixed this for me with the side effect that now alt-tab will always show a live thumbnail (which I can take or leave, as a feature). I thought I'd be grumpy accidentally hitting the Win key from time to time, but turns out my keyboard has a toggle that just turns it off altogether for a "game mode" or whatever. Go fig.
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After trying (and failing miserably) for a few hours, I now rolled back to before the 24h2 update and I am now happy. I also provided Microsoft some feedback on it, although I imagine it most likely go to deaf ears (but it's not like we are not used to it with SE doing the same ;)).
Any brave soul update windows today? Wondering if this most recent update has the same problem.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/january-14-2025-kb5050009-os-build-26100-2894-bdbfb097-ea20-487d-9171-718d15e26f1b
update notes don't mention it at all so most likely not changed, but if nobody answers before then i'll let you know tomorrow morning edit: it is still broken, verified
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Shiva.Thorny said: » edit: it is still broken, verified Thanks for verifying this! Staying away from the update until it gets fixed...
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According to someone here any bug fixes will come two weeks after the security stuff, which was what this update contained. Lots of people still complaining, let's hope for the best.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1i1cgw9/cumulative_updates_january_14th_2025/ I suggest using the free version of displayfusion. I believe it will fix any alt/tab issues you are having.
Apparently now Windows 11 is forcing me to update to 24H2, it's not giving me the alternative of not updating, just wants to restart now or to restart later. The latest in time I can choose is in 5 days from now. This is not good ¬¬
Edit: Just found the "pause update for 5 weeks" option in the Control Panel and went with it. I hope 5 weeks is enough time for this to be fixed for good :S Edit 2: Meh, even if it said "5 weeks" after selecting the option and after 10ish minutes it just allowed me to wait for 1 week. Gah! Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq said: » Apparently now Windows 11 is forcing me to update to 24H2, it's not giving me the alternative of not updating, just wants to restart now or to restart later. The latest in time I can choose is in 5 days from now. This is not good ¬¬ Edit: Just found the "pause update for 5 weeks" option in the Control Panel and went with it. I hope 5 weeks is enough time for this to be fixed for good :S Edit 2: Meh, even if it said "5 weeks" after selecting the option and after 10ish minutes it just allowed me to wait for 1 week. Gah! Bahamut.Negan said: » I updated and it didn't mess with anything. The fix still works. Thanks. I use Windower, not Ashita, and the workaround (I wouldn't call it a "fix" :D) was reported to work in Windower as well, but I do use the Windows key in some of my luas and have done for a few years already so it will be difficult to get used to bind different keys. The fix sould come from Microsoft, in my opinion, but happy to have a workaround. I may try it later. Thanks! :) (Edit: OR I may be misunderstanding what "Allow Windows key" does, perhaps!) 
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[41 days between previous and next post]symptoms have returned, with win key enabled in windower. alt-tab not immediately going back to pol instance, showing a black screen when the preview comes up, short r0 when out of focus.
didn't restart my machine or relog characters recently either. gdi Yeah the short r0 gets me disconnected, when it feels like it, if I'm alt+tab to a different window like chrome. Happens if I'm 1 box or 2 box
As of March 2025, if you're experiencing issues with the "Alt + Tab" function on Windows 11, it's likely related to a known bug introduced in the recent 24H2 update, which can cause black screens or freezes when switching windows using this shortcut; however, Microsoft has released a patch (KB5044384) that is intended to fix this issue, so make sure your system is fully updated. [1, 2, 3]
Key points about the Alt + Tab problem in Windows 11 24H2: [1, 2, 4] • Black screen issue: The main symptom is a black screen appearing momentarily when you press Alt + Tab, causing a delay in switching windows. [1, 2, 4] • Potential fix: Install the latest Windows updates, specifically the KB5044384 patch, which is designed to address the Alt + Tab bug. [1, 2, 4] • Workarounds (if update doesn't solve the problem): [1, 3, 5] • Disable Game Mode: Try turning off Game Mode in your Windows settings. [1, 3, 5] • Check for other updates: Ensure your graphics card drivers are up to date. [3, 4, 6] • Report the issue: If the problem persists, report it to Microsoft through the Feedback Hub. [1, 5, 7] Generative AI is experimental. [1] https://www.yahoo.com/tech/alt-tab-trouble-windows-11-152147442.html[2] https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/24/24278746/microsoft-fixes-black-screen-alt-tab-issues-in-windows-11[3] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-do-i-fix-games-from-crashing-when-i-alt-tab/4204875d-fad7-4495-9b54-ca7a0f5e6ab3[4] https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1gbuhz6/update_kb5044384_for_win_11_24h2_says_it_fixed/[5] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/alttab-issue-in-windows-11/c26a48c9-c750-46cd-b55f-aaa378a6e58a[6] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/my-games-keep-tabbing-out-on-their-own-on-windows/f25d3f75-de14-4bb6-9709-d3507e7b3c5b[7] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/newest-windows-update-alt-tab-bug/c00f85d2-0a04-40f1-8ff8-9b1d7f35390c here's the link to the patch mentioned https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5044384 but I try to install it and is says not applicable for my system... All I can determine is that it was fixed and they broke it again, not 100% on that though.
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I had to revert my update, it kept doing weird stuff when I would alt tab from XI to anything else.
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