Weird Alt Tab Behavior Is Normal In Windows 11?

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Weird alt tab behavior is normal in Windows 11?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-12-15 08:54:09
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edit: double post, solution at end of last page
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By Asura.Luckyseven 2024-12-15 13:04:24
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Thank you so much!
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By Rubenator 2024-12-16 16:16:13
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
I assume windower's works the same way, but if not this should be all the info they need to offer you a fix.

Just chiming in to say that Windower uses the exact same flag. Can toggle it in Windower profile advanced tab.
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By Asura.Luckyseven 2024-12-17 11:33:46
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So I found a new issue.

After this fix I get certain other weird issues. Mostly it's the F1 button that doesn't work. Other times it can be other buttons not working or simply giving me other results.

Like pressing the button b in chat gives me random numbers. Pressing the ALT button after the character is in focus fixes it. Kind of like windows wants me to confirm the window with ALT? Anyone else got similar issue?
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By Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq 2024-12-19 18:31:23
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Oh, boy... I stupidly applied the 24h2 update without even thinking it would break anything FFXI related. I use Windower and I'm a heavy multiboxer and now my alt-tab is all messed up. If I'm in one FFXI instance, I alt-tab, it immediately will switch to any non-FFXI window, without showing any preview. From there I can just alt-tab again and it will show the thumbnails for any other instance which I can choose from, but so many decades of muscle memory that "just works" makes everything super annoying.

I am not sure if I should roll back to the previous update or just start "learning" to live with it... it is very frustrating :(
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2024-12-19 23:00:41
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Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq said: »
I am not sure if I should roll back to the previous update or just start "learning" to live with it... it is very frustrating :(

Enabling the Windows key in Windower fixed this for me with the side effect that now alt-tab will always show a live thumbnail (which I can take or leave, as a feature).

I thought I'd be grumpy accidentally hitting the Win key from time to time, but turns out my keyboard has a toggle that just turns it off altogether for a "game mode" or whatever. Go fig.
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By Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq 2024-12-20 11:45:09
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After trying (and failing miserably) for a few hours, I now rolled back to before the 24h2 update and I am now happy. I also provided Microsoft some feedback on it, although I imagine it most likely go to deaf ears (but it's not like we are not used to it with SE doing the same ;)).
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By Kaffy 2025-01-15 10:02:28
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Any brave soul update windows today? Wondering if this most recent update has the same problem.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-01-15 12:13:19
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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/january-14-2025-kb5050009-os-build-26100-2894-bdbfb097-ea20-487d-9171-718d15e26f1b

update notes don't mention it at all so most likely not changed, but if nobody answers before then i'll let you know tomorrow morning

edit: it is still broken, verified
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By Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq 2025-01-16 19:53:19
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
edit: it is still broken, verified

Thanks for verifying this! Staying away from the update until it gets fixed...
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By Kaffy 2025-01-16 23:06:30
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According to someone here any bug fixes will come two weeks after the security stuff, which was what this update contained. Lots of people still complaining, let's hope for the best.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1i1cgw9/cumulative_updates_january_14th_2025/
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By Asura.Lockhartt 2025-01-17 20:38:48
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I suggest using the free version of displayfusion. I believe it will fix any alt/tab issues you are having.
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By Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq 2025-01-20 14:14:19
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Apparently now Windows 11 is forcing me to update to 24H2, it's not giving me the alternative of not updating, just wants to restart now or to restart later. The latest in time I can choose is in 5 days from now. This is not good ¬¬

Edit: Just found the "pause update for 5 weeks" option in the Control Panel and went with it. I hope 5 weeks is enough time for this to be fixed for good :S

Edit 2: Meh, even if it said "5 weeks" after selecting the option and after 10ish minutes it just allowed me to wait for 1 week. Gah!
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-01-20 14:25:31
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Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq said: »
Apparently now Windows 11 is forcing me to update to 24H2, it's not giving me the alternative of not updating, just wants to restart now or to restart later. The latest in time I can choose is in 5 days from now. This is not good ¬¬

Edit: Just found the "pause update for 5 weeks" option in the Control Panel and went with it. I hope 5 weeks is enough time for this to be fixed for good :S

Edit 2: Meh, even if it said "5 weeks" after selecting the option and after 10ish minutes it just allowed me to wait for 1 week. Gah!
I updated and it didn't mess with anything. The fix still works.
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By Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq 2025-01-20 17:35:36
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
I updated and it didn't mess with anything. The fix still works.

Thanks. I use Windower, not Ashita, and the workaround (I wouldn't call it a "fix" :D) was reported to work in Windower as well, but I do use the Windows key in some of my luas and have done for a few years already so it will be difficult to get used to bind different keys.

The fix sould come from Microsoft, in my opinion, but happy to have a workaround. I may try it later. Thanks! :)

(Edit: OR I may be misunderstanding what "Allow Windows key" does, perhaps!)