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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-21 09:35:10
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Viciouss repeating the same ***he did with Veilguard and Outlaws.

"No, its doing amazing, breaking records, GOTY, Sales all over the place, more conspiracies"
>>Fast forward 3 months
>>the game was not even in the same universe as a commercial success and hundreds of people lost their jobs over it
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-03-21 09:53:28
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to be fair, people seem to lose their jobs in the game industry even with a commercial success. Recent memory that marvel team game.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-03-21 10:35:21
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I kinda feel bad for developers because I assume most wanted to make fun video games
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-21 11:06:01
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They got canceled by the woke brigade for a lack of diversity.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/video-game-studio-photo-viral-b1902179.html
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-21 11:18:45
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Anyways, CHING CHONG WHA CHA NINJA

Without context, you'd think this is an incredibly racist thing to say about a game in feudal Japan, correct? Well thats just the background battle music lol, or maybe just the final boss fight idk
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By Viciouss 2025-03-21 11:30:59
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Viciouss repeating the same ***he did with Veilguard and Outlaws.

"No, its doing amazing, breaking records, GOTY, Sales all over the place, more conspiracies"
>>Fast forward 3 months
>>the game was not even in the same universe as a commercial success and hundreds of people lost their jobs over it

And yet I remain on solid ground with evidence backing up my statements while RA is making ***up and Thorny is going down with the ship. An Assassins Creed game set in Japan that is going to have paid DLC and endless micro transactions that people will eat up is going to make a lot of money. Valhalla made a billion. Odyssey didn't quite reach that number, but I don't think Ubisoft was crying about a 9 figure payday for a game set in Ancient Egypt.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-21 11:52:45
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Viciouss said: »
And yet I remain on solid ground with evidence backing up my statements


Good one
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-03-21 11:56:44
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Still doesn't fit. There's no secret plot behind woke games failing. They fail because more and more westerners are sick of paying for entertainment and receiving a lecture.

I think people need to let this sink in.

The purpose of any game, but especially a video game, is to provide entertainment. The consumer is buying entertainment from the supplier, and in a free market the consumer can decide which flavor of entertainment to buy from which supplier. If the supplier keeps producing a flavor of entertainment that less and less consumers want to buy, they will start suffering and make less money.

Ultimately it all boils down to a simple set of questions. Is the entertainment supplier making a flavor of entertainment that the consumer want to buy? Is there sufficient consumers who want that flavor of entertainment to justify the expense of making in the first place?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-03-21 11:57:26
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Viciouss said: »
And yet I remain on solid ground with evidence backing up my statements
As long as you are talking about the Cubs.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-03-21 12:05:19
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Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
to be fair, people seem to lose their jobs in the game industry even with a commercial success. Recent memory that marvel team game.

This has more to do with how the Video Game industry has folded itself into the larger Hollywood driven Entertainment Media industry. Big title video games are now produced the exact same way block buster movies are.

First a production company will decide to make a product and start gathering capital investment for that product. It will then either use an existing studio or spin up a new one. Resources (people/money) will be assigned to that studio, and most importantly all debt associated with production.

The studio will develop, market and sell the entertainment product, the production company will charge the studio ridiculous consulting and service fee's. Those fee's are then used to pay of the original capital investors at their agreed upon rates. The investors always get paid first. If this leaves the studio in the red it's not a big deal because the production company owns the studio as a subsidiary and can just dissolve it and all the debt goes with it, effectively shielding both the production company and investors from financial responsibility.

Most developers now are just contractors hired for specific projects. Make the product, support the product for a period of time afterward, but then have the contract terminated or their division shutdown until another project is needed. Where this gets dicey is when it involves a formerly independent studio. Independent studio makes a bunch of successful products, then gets bought by a major production company. All those successful IP is transferred to the production company and the studio now becomes a disposable asset.
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By Felgarr 2025-03-21 13:28:11
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
to be fair, people seem to lose their jobs in the game industry even with a commercial success. Recent memory that marvel team game.

This has more to do with how the Video Game industry has folded itself into the larger Hollywood driven Entertainment Media industry. Big title video games are now produced the exact same way block buster movies are.

First a production company will decide to make a product and start gathering capital investment for that product. It will then either use an existing studio or spin up a new one. Resources (people/money) will be assigned to that studio, and most importantly all debt associated with production.

The studio will develop, market and sell the entertainment product, the production company will charge the studio ridiculous consulting and service fee's. Those fee's are then used to pay of the original capital investors at their agreed upon rates. The investors always get paid first. If this leaves the studio in the red it's not a big deal because the production company owns the studio as a subsidiary and can just dissolve it and all the debt goes with it, effectively shielding both the production company and investors from financial responsibility.

Most developers now are just contractors hired for specific projects. Make the product, support the product for a period of time afterward, but then have the contract terminated or their division shutdown until another project is needed. Where this gets dicey is when it involves a formerly independent studio. Independent studio makes a bunch of successful products, then gets bought by a major production company. All those successful IP is transferred to the production company and the studio now becomes a disposable asset.

Capitalism *** sucks.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-21 13:46:36
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Most developers now are just contractors hired for specific projects.
Monolith and FromSoft keep their staff for the next project, this is why they can keep putting out
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-03-21 14:39:14
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I looked at that too fast and read it as After Burner at first and was like *** yeah, that was a great arcade game!



Get off my lawn!
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-03-21 15:20:23
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Numbers for AC:Shadows is bad. fail-guard had better numbers.

Ubisoft will never recover from this. The company will either be sold or set up IP liquidation like THQ.

RIP Ubisoft. Once a great studio. ruined by the unfuckables like always.

Anyway, I beat Monster Hunter last night - runs amazing on the 5090. Gonna start putting more effort into Stalker2 while dipping into MH endgame
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-03-21 15:30:27
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Anyway, I beat Monster Hunter last night - runs amazing on the 5090. Gonna start putting more effort into Stalker2 while dipping into MH endgame
so you can kill some dragons?

Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Numbers for AC:Shadows is bad. fail-guard had better numbers.

Ubisoft will never recover from this. The company will either be sold or set up IP liquidation like THQ.

RIP Ubisoft. Once a great studio. ruined by the unfuckables like always.
everyone who would buy the game lives on the best coast, and it is only 1:30pm here so like something something fat lady sings.
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