New Games Suck... Or Is It Just Me?

Im literally telling you the situation its in.
If you dont like it cuz “its political”, thats on you. It doesnt change the facts.

Discuss the current gaming spectrum without including anything youd consider political.
Discuss the current game market without getting political. Why did Ubisoft shareholders revolt and demand a third party investigation to why their sales are plummeting without getting political.
Discuss why Kay Vess looks like a man without getting political. And before you say “muh technical limitations”, modders fixed her face, so thats out the window.
Discuss gaming design without getting political. Why does Veilguard have a whole subset of dialog and quests for trans characters? Answer this without getting political.
Discuss why Japan is blowing a gasket over AC:Shadows content, remember you cant get political.


Spoiler: you cant

my non political take on veilguard, since i actually played through it.

veilguard felt like a disney RPG. the art style was a bit childish and the dialogue similarly felt very YA fantasy. it's a shame too because the combat was fun and the exploration (for a pretty linear game) was good too. wanted to try avowed but all the visuals i've seen are that similar type of art style which just isn't my cup of tea, i like my fantasy a little darker.

It's not that "I don't like it". It's just that, the same thing has been said for 30 pages. And unless we work for that specific project it's hard to really pinpoint the real project management issue behind those failed projects.

So as an outsider, besides spamming "it's DEI'S fault!!!!", what else can you add to the discussion?

In fact, I was the one who posted actual interviews or rumors about why those projects fail. Because I don't want the discussion to endlessly stuck in "it's DEI's fault!" that goes nowhere.


Ask the character designer. Although I don't see how designing a manly female character is inherently political. It's a common design choice even in anime.


Ask the writer. Though I already know the producer is trans and one writer (Trick Weekes to be exact) is non-binary. So I would assume it's a natural thing that they wrote stories based on personal experience.

Trick Weekes is also a long time Bioware employee since ME trilogy btw, so you can't say non-binary writers are hired because blackrock and DEI funds force them.


Because orientalism. Is orientalism political though? It's not even a new thing that westerners has orientalism in their creations about Asia. It has been happening since the Last Samurai film.

I also find it funny that westerners never cared about Asian feelings when they made Last Samurai and Memories of Geisha, now they care about Asian feelings because of Ubisoft and western political war. Lol.

If you want to criticize orientalism, the same standard should apply to those films.

It's funny because it's true. And it doesn't matter how much people try to spin it, I end up laughing because it results in games underperforming and people getting laid off. Then, of course, reality-deniers blame the audience since they can't comprehend that almost NOBODY want to take part in their perverted world.

Hire DEI, get ***!

Kung Fu (released in 1972) is a lot older than the last samurai, and was a white guy playing Kwai Chang Caine a half Asian character traveling through the old American west solving problems with his mystical martial arts.

Not saying this was bad, I watched this show a lot with my dad as a kid and loved it. But it is widely seen as a peak "orientalism"

Beverly Hills Ninja was the best ninja

Well, if the story happened in America then at least they don't have to deal with Asian environment/history and ended up getting wrong somewhere.

Films like Mulan(2020) got so many Chinese architecture wrong to the point that it feels unreal. AC shadows has similar complaint about architecture, samurai class and one-legged torii. It's easy to get wrong on those environments if the creators aren't familiar with the culture.

I am not sure if this counts as political problem.

When was the last time Nintendo cared about your gender insecurities? That's what Xenoblade is, right? A Nintendo game. They don't care about anything other than gamers having fun. I can't even think of the last Nintendo controversy. Other than your hardware is out of date, which has been true since like 1995. So when Xenoblade brings a character creator, why is this news? They aren't doing anything different.


Also, this is a straight up lie.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Afania's the actual discount shopper, my bad.

I've had MH: Wilds preordered since playing the beta last fall. There is a difference between "waiting for discounts" and not having actual playtime because of IRL work. Investing in a story is not something I have time for atm.

What's wrong with being a discount shopper? Lol. Last year I played 46 games total, and I still have around 42 games on my backlog, that I bought but haven't played. In other words, I am purchasing more games than I can consume AND consuming more games per year than average gamer.

Idk why are you looking down on discount shopper. The amount of money that I contribute to the gaming industry probably isn't any less than people who buy 2-3 AAA games per year at full price. Buying 30-40 games per year at $10 each is spending more money for the industry than buying 3 games per year at $70. Nevermind the fact that some games that I purchased last year are at the range of $40-$50.

The only difference between buying more games with less price is that more money is going to different studios instead of just 1-2 big publishers. Imo this kind of spending habit is more fair for smaller indie dev anyways.

Are you discriminating against other people's contribution to the society Panta? :0

I actually want you to effectively contribute to society.

That's what I'm doing with buying and playing games!