New Games Suck... Or Is It Just Me?

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 Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-25 17:44:31
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Helldivers probably would have won GOTY if it released Oct/Nov 2024 and the award would have been handed out before the dev's ruined their own game with "balance patches" and what not. Unfortunately for them, they released in Feb, and thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Viciouss said: »
Fan expectations are irrelevant.
lol

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But I noticed you ran away from your boogeyman claims.
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By Afania 2025-01-25 22:02:50
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Helldivers II started good then the devs *** it up so badly that the players staged in game protests to let the bugs win. Definite GOTY.

Dragons Dogma II fell short of many expectations, leaving many of the die-hards very disappointed. Another definite GOTY.

You covered Tekken and fighting games wrt GOTY.


Weird how your reaction isn't "but those games didn't have 9 digits budget, I win!!!!" Or "Tekken 8's budget came from content updates post launch, it doesn't count!" Did Helldiver 2, Dragons dogma 2 and Tekken 8 feel more like a "game" than Zenless zone zero and Wuthering Waves to you? You aren't even using the same standard to judge those games.

Let's face it, GoTY isn't objectively the "best game" of the year despite the name is. It rewards innovation and breakthrough accomplishments, which is great as an industry award. but it doesn't always reward people's favorite game, so it doesn't always represent the best game in each players mind.

It doesn't nominate some really popular games like NBA 2k, Fifa, CoD, or anything that sells well but only popular within Chinese playerbase like anime style gacha. It also doesn't nominate countless successful Chinese indie games that's mostly played by Chinese only. Wukong only won nomination because it's a console game with western market in mind.

It didn't nominate Monopoly Go! in 2023, despite it made 3 billion revenue in an year and broke industry record in terms of revenue generation.

If you want to fight DEI, using GoTY as some kind of objective standard to attack all other games will just weaken your stance. Because you'll just anger countless other fans who like their games but didn't win nomination.

You'll have much better chance at winning DEI war by saying DEI movement isn't socially fair for white heterosexual male. That would at least win more sympathy from outsiders. Attacking games other people like will make you more enemies.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-25 22:56:46
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Afania said: »
Weird how your reaction isn't "but those games didn't have 9 digits budget, I win!!!!" Or "Tekken 8's budget came from content updates post launch, it doesn't count!" Did Helldiver 2, Dragons dogma 2 and Tekken 8 feel more like a "game" than Zenless zone zero and Wuthering Waves to you? You aren't even using the same standard to judge those games.
What are you blabbing about here??

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Let's face it, GoTY isn't objectively the "best game" of the year despite the name is. It rewards innovation and breakthrough accomplishments, which is great as an industry award. but it doesn't always reward people's favorite game, so it doesn't always represent the best game in each players mind.
Yes, this is how Balatro wound up with a nomination, but the game looks like a SNES game.
It Takes Two also won for innovation.
But innovation and breakthrough accomplishments can only go so far.

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It doesn't nominate some really popular games like NBA 2k, Fifa, CoD, or anything that sells well but only popular within Chinese playerbase like anime style gacha. It also doesn't nominate countless successful Chinese indie games that's mostly played by Chinese only. Wukong only won nomination because it's a console game with western market in mind.
CoD won in 2004, but every CoD since has been the same more or less. People actually shitting on CoD6 because of the stupid ***they're adding.
Maybe you should try playing Wukong, its actually a good game with pretty graphics and a fun story.

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Monopoly Go!
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By Afania 2025-01-26 01:44:18
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Maybe you should try playing Wukong, its actually a good game with pretty graphics and a fun story.


My desire to play Wukong is pretty low tbh. There are entirely way too many same kind of game in the market, and from the review Wukong's combat doesn't particularly stand out in action game genre. The kind combat system that I usually like is the one with tons of builds complexity. I think PoE2 probably fits in the criteria more than Wukong.

The story is also based on Journey of the west. Usually any theme that based on Journey of the west, Romance of three kingdoms, or Wuxia automatically gets minus points from me. Way too many entertainment media use the same theme and it's getting old. I prefer 80s style sci-fi, cyberpunk as a theme a bit more.

Also the theme that I prefer to see in a story is generally going to be banned in China. I prefer man v.s modern society kind of theme with political critism in story, something like 1984 by George Orwell or Disco Elysium. And there is no way that mainland Chinese are allowed to write this kind of story, it's a taboo in the mainland.

So I highly doubt mainland Chinese Dev can ever create my dream game ever. Not unless they move to a different region and accept different kind of value from mainland education.
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