Mastery Rank Data
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Mastery Rank Data
I feel like I'm in super cool best friends club that you don't understand the point of and are mad about the club existing for some reason
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Lakshmi.Avereith said: » I feel like I'm in super cool best friends club that you don't understand the point of and are mad about the club existing for some reason Word. 
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Time to max out the friend list!
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » I gave very clear examples of how the things in the list that everyone swears up and down are high priority are worth dogshit and everyone coped their *** off and closed their eyes. Nobody wants to do the analysis because it would show that the unimportant nonsense they're spending their days doing is actually worth next-to-nothing and the stuff they SHOULD be doing is the ***they pretend doesn't matter because they don't wanna do it. How about You give an example of what is oh so important that people aren't doing? Briefly skimmed your posts in this thread, and its been mostly complaining about people tracking things that you dont have any concrete evidence on... but that's the thing, no one has concrete evidence on anything. We only know what has ranked people up, not the value of what that task was, how close they were to rank up prior, etc... SURE some things may not contribute at all, but if your goal is MR9, then doing everything is simply the easiest solution. If you're convinced that task X Y or Z are the must do things, and that'd help people get 6 7 or 8 easier, then just post that and stop yelling at everyone tracking stuff that's trackable in the game. That's the best we can go by... with all due respect I reel like being helpful and discussing things is what this thread is for...: A) What ranked someone up, where they were at etc, B) How to do old/forgotten tasks in an attempt to make everyone's life easier, or C) sharing one's overall achievements for comparison. Outside of that, just coming here to yell at others that they're dumb or wrong for pursuing X task in the game, with no evidence on the contrary just sounds bitter and a waste of everyone's time It'd been stated by users that alot of things that many considered "useless" rank people up: -Monstrosity levels / species unlocks (not lv 99) -Campaign ops that arnt Fiat Lux/Stronghold -Time played(?) -Seemingly random field NM titles -Certain/overall Quest completions that Dont reward titles -Trust Points (?) etc... you get the point If you've been compiling some master list that is so much better, just post it instead of having this holier than thou attitude Most regular folks just make a list of all the things, approach them in a manner that's more easily obtainable, or delegated to daily completion, and just chip away at one task at a time.
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who the hell keeps killing Jormungand on Phoenix
I mean there's also at least one person who said they were camping King Arthro for the drop and didn't invite another human for the title (sicko behavior) but like, come on, I just need the title for all these big nerds, who is monopolizing them ;_; I would literally pay more than the drops are worth for them to let me join for title! Gil is worthless! Glory is eternal! LightningHelix said: » who the hell keeps killing Jormungand on Phoenix I mean there's also at least one person who said they were camping King Arthro for the drop and didn't invite another human for the title (sicko behavior) but like, come on, I just need the title for all these big nerds, who is monopolizing them ;_; I would literally pay more than the drops are worth for them to let me join for title! Gil is worthless! Glory is eternal! I've had similar experiences with people who just dont give a ***what you're doing, even if it doesnt negatively impact them in any way, they enjoy that you get screwed or even better, mad. Best to just Blist and avoid those types of people Asura.Dexprozius said: » Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » I gave very clear examples of how the things in the list that everyone swears up and down are high priority are worth dogshit and everyone coped their *** off and closed their eyes. Nobody wants to do the analysis because it would show that the unimportant nonsense they're spending their days doing is actually worth next-to-nothing and the stuff they SHOULD be doing is the ***they pretend doesn't matter because they don't wanna do it. I don't have a list and frankly much less experience with MR than most people in this thread, so I don't mean to imply (and I don't think I've ever said anything remotely close to) that someone should ask ME what to upgrade. My point was that there are (and remain) lots of posts on here suggesting that people pursue things that, while they might rank them up, are very high hanging fruit. I've continued to use Aery as an example because it's a good one, but there are endless posts talking about title chasing, how many RoEs you have completed, spending hours raising chocobos, working on combat skills, chasing down random quests in towns, doing maps, home points, chocobo digging, unlocking spells, key items, mounts, and all those other things. If it's clear that some things count more than others, then why aren't people suggesting THOSE things instead of telling people to chase titles (generically)? Mission completions Combat content like SR, Vagary, Sortie, Ody, Dynamis [D], Gaes Fete, HTBF, Skirmish, Omen, Incursion, sky, sea, voidwatch Craft levels World bosses like Cerberus, KB, Khimaira, Vrtra, etc. Campaign Ops I mentioned it because I have these things (though no campaign ops, but I think they're valuable for MR) ^^ and I don't have any of the other things I listed. I think it's a pretty valuable lesson in terms of the weights of things, but yet this thread is still populated with people touting random completionist ***. Sure, maybe it only takes an hour or two to chase down some scrolls, and a couple hours to enter the random zones you haven't entered, and only an hour to do 5-10 RoEs, and so on...but that ***adds up fast and in the same amount of time you could've done WAY more useful ***instead of wasting your time penny pinching. Play the game however you want, but if you're gonna tell people it's a good way to raise MR I'm gonna raise a couple eyebrows.
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I've been "stuck" at Mastery Rank 5 for over a year now. What I can absolutely tell you does not help very much is RoE completion as I'm at 865 completed (the fishing / harvesting / Vanaversary ones are the big categories left uncompleted for now). So, I would not focus on RoEs for early advancement.
I also just finished up my last "easy' quest granted title the other day (quests requiring fishing skill remain), but note that I focused purely on quests that gave titles, I still have almost all of them that are not directly related to Mission progression / REMA or other notable gear left undone, so it would appear total quests completed is a higher weight. One big gap I have is crafting. I have only Woodworking at 70 and no key items for it. I was hoping that maybe I could push to 6 or 7 without doing more, but looks like they are weighted just as highly as actual job leveling (for the record, I'm 99 on all jobs, 8 jobs have capped JP and my highest master level is 32 with the other capped JP jobs around 15-20). The other big gaps are that I have only scratched the surface on Coalitions (something that I'm 100% going to jump in on with the new upcoming campaign, I think I've used less than 20 imprimaturs ever) and Campaign content. Again, almost nothing done ever for that, too. This is all from a fresh character I made returning for the 20th anniversary, so lots of playtime from the past few years. TL;DR - Looks like overall quest total is important, as well as expansion "completion" beyond just the storyline missions (Campaign, Coalitions, Assault, etc). Random completionist *** is fun, but yeah, I'd imagine you're better served doing the lowest-hanging fruit first even if it's tedious (looking at you, crafting levelling.)
My guess would be that it's not a common recommendation because everyone should already know it by the time they get to posting here? Like, everyone knows the nation missions up to rank 10 exist. Obviously you do them and it helps make your mastery rank go up. (I do think you're underrating RoE completion and spell learning, but I can't prove it. Spells mostly because, again, they were on the dev list.)
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Ragnarok.Vargasfinio said: » I've been "stuck" at Mastery Rank 5 for over a year now. But on the other hand: nearly every Campaign Op (including 3/3 Fiat Lux) every mission line done (including the add-ons, I am READY for the HTMBs) all Coalitions (7/7 Legend + all assignments done etc) all Assaults (because I made a mythic) all spells learned (including BLU) all geas fete titles (because I made an Aeonic) Which lends credence to the idea of... almost "second tier" content? Stuff that's not main story missions but that's one step below that (and one step above "random sidequest" or "skill level") LightningHelix said: » (I do think you're underrating RoE completion and spell learning, but I can't prove it. Spells mostly because, again, they were on the dev list.) Actually, I have all spells and all skills capped for 119. I suppose I should run the tracker and do a dump as I think my case is unique enough to be helpful for some data points. I'll see if I can get that done in the next few days. EDIT: Installed and ran around to NPCs to validate data on my lunch break. Looks like my personal checklisting wasn't quite as meticulous as I thought as I am still missing some spells, etc. A very helpful addon, this. LightningHelix said: » (I do think you're underrating RoE completion and spell learning, but I can't prove it. Spells mostly because, again, they were on the dev list.) Lol, funny you mention this right as ANOTHER PERSON is talking about having almost 900 ROEs, while I have < 400, and being R5. Again, the same guy has all spells, all skills capped, and shitloads of quests I've never done. Also having all jobs 99 and lots of JP, while my characters don't have all the jobs unlocked, and barely over half of them 99. How many more examples do we need of people doing unimportant *** and not ranking up? Presumably voidwatch completion matters quite a bit, and coalition progress definitely seems to, too. Voidwatch has so many KIs, and a storyline, etc. I’d be shocked if it doesn’t matter at all.
It’s not quite strong enough to be called proof yet, but Vargas being MR5 with 1 voidwatch boss done goes a long way. Someone’s gonna be busy as hell later this month with both those campaigns active at once. If you pull it off, I’d be willing to bet you’ll get MR6. Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » LightningHelix said: » (I do think you're underrating RoE completion and spell learning, but I can't prove it. Spells mostly because, again, they were on the dev list.) Lol, funny you mention this right as ANOTHER PERSON is talking about having almost 900 ROEs, while I have < 400, and being R5. Again, the same guy has all spells, all skills capped, and shitloads of quests I've never done. Also having all jobs 99 and lots of JP, while my characters don't have all the jobs unlocked, and barely over half of them 99. How many more examples do we need of people doing unimportant *** and not ranking up? edit: oh, Vargas - how's your Abyssea count? Atma, titles because they're basically interchangeable. Not just the zones/caturae but all of it, I mean. My Abyssea completion is also quite low - I mainly have the low-hanging fruit of Atma (ones you buy from NPCs based on other completions, ones you commonly fight for EMP upgrades and REMA) and not much else. I do have the actual zones complete mission wise, but there is a lot to do there as far as atmas.
So yeah, the big takeaways from me are: 1) RoE's should be nearly dead-last to focus on for completion 2) Mission / Expansion content BESIDES the main story count for a lot (Abyssea atmas, Coalitions, Campaign, etc) 3) Crafting (and Fishing) are likely heavyweights, too when i was working going from 6 to 7 I did a TON of content. It ended up being just getting more trusts that actually did the level up, of course all that other content could of been helping as well, but just getting the trusts I didnt have from login points ranked me up. I can say for sure trusts matter
I just dinged Rank 8, I was afraid Campaign Ops were required.
Checklist Progress 8305/12324. Only 20 Campaign Ops completed, and very little MMM done It was Ops #20 that ranked me up
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also dinged up to 8 after doing street sweeper windurst
-Mastery Rank: 8 -Checklist Progress 8605/12326 ======= General ======= -RoE 966/1104 -Zones visited 290/292 -Titles 894/1048 -Missions 613/829 -Quests 1034/1111 -Magic 877/881 -Warps 364/365
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