A Summoner's Gear Guide

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By SkyfangR 2025-07-28 08:12:15
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Tarage said: »
How many are you using for a given set at a time? I don't use head or hands at all anymore. At most I only ever use 2 at the same time. It used to be an issue, but other gear has eclipsed it where it doesn't matter as much. I don't think I ever dip yellow.

It'd be helpful if you told us which pieces you were using for what situations.

my idle set, which i have approx 1650 hp
head="Beckoner's Horn +3",
body="Shomonjijoe +1",
hands="Glyphic Bracers +3",,
legs="Beck. Spats +2",
feet="Con. Pigaches +4",
neck="Caller's Pendant",
waist="Lucidity Sash",
left_ear="C. Palug Earring",
right_ear="Beck. Earring +1",
left_ring="Shneddick Ring",
right_ring="Evoker's Ring",
back={ name="Campestres's Cape", augments={'Pet: Acc.+20 Pet: R.Acc.+20 Pet: Atk.+20 Pet: R.Atk.+20','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','Pet: Attack+10 Pet: Rng.Atk.+10','Pet: Haste+10','Damage taken-5%',}},

my physical bp set, which drops my hp to approx 1220
head={ name="Apogee Crown +1", augments={'MP+80','Pet: Attack+35','Blood Pact Dmg.+8',}},
body="Con. Doublet +3",
hands={ name="Merlinic Dastanas", augments={'Pet: Attack+27 Pet: Rng.Atk.+27','Blood Pact Dmg.+10','Pet: INT+4','Pet: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+15',}},
legs={ name="Apogee Slacks +1", augments={'Pet: STR+20','Blood Pact Dmg.+14','Pet: "Dbl. Atk."+4',}},
feet={ name="Apogee Pumps +1", augments={'MP+80','Pet: Attack+35','Blood Pact Dmg.+8',}},
neck={ name="Smn. Collar +1", augments={'Path: A',}},
waist="Incarnation Sash",
left_ear="Lugalbanda Earring",
right_ear={ name="Beck. Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Pet: Accuracy+14 Pet: Rng. Acc.+14','Pet: Mag. Acc.+14','Damage taken-5%',}},
left_ring="Varar Ring +1",
right_ring="Varar Ring +1",
back={ name="Campestres's Cape", augments={'Pet: Acc.+20 Pet: R.Acc.+20 Pet: Atk.+20 Pet: R.Atk.+20','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','Pet: Attack+10 Pet: Rng.Atk.+10','Pet: Haste+10','Damage taken-5%',}},

my magical set, which drops my hp to 1100
head={ name="Apogee Crown +1", augments={'MP+80','Pet: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+35','Blood Pact Dmg.+8',}},
body="Apo. Dalmatica +1",
hands={ name="Merlinic Dastanas", augments={'Pet: Mag. Acc.+23 Pet: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+23','Blood Pact Dmg.+5','Pet: INT+4','Pet: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+15',}},
legs={ name="Enticer's Pants", augments={'MP+50','Pet: Accuracy+15 Pet: Rng. Acc.+15','Pet: Mag. Acc.+15','Pet: Damage taken -5%',}},
feet={ name="Apogee Pumps +1", augments={'MP+80','Pet: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+35','Blood Pact Dmg.+8',}},
neck={ name="Smn. Collar +1", augments={'Path: A',}},
waist="Lucidity Sash",
left_ear="Lugalbanda Earring",
right_ear={ name="Beck. Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Pet: Accuracy+14 Pet: Rng. Acc.+14','Pet: Mag. Acc.+14','Damage taken-5%',}},
left_ring="Varar Ring +1",
right_ring="Varar Ring +1",
back={ name="Campestres's Cape", augments={'Pet: M.Acc.+20 Pet: M.Dmg.+20','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','Pet: Magic Damage+5','"Fast Cast"+10','Pet: Damage taken -5%',}},
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By Tarage 2025-07-29 07:43:02
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I'll look at it later Sky, though my first question would be why not idle in Apogee body?

I have a general question for those who solo on Summoner: What trusts do you regularly use? I may be playing it too conservatively because I usually go two tanks, AAEV and Amchuchu, two healers, Ygnas and Monberaux, and Arciela II for extra refresh. If I am doing harder content like Sortie, Amchuchu is usually the one who dies. Relying only on my Avatar for DD is reliable but show. I'm wondering who I should replace and for what. Maybe a tank and a healer for Zaid II and Shantotto II?
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By SkyfangR 2025-07-29 11:01:51
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i used to idle in apogee body +1. i switched shomonjijoe because my idle set had something like 1300 hp because of the apo body.
1 less refresh (i have 11/tick in this idle set with favor up) for ~200 more hp is worth it to me
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-29 11:07:57
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SkyfangR said: »
i used to idle in apogee body +1. i switched shomonjijoe because my idle set had something like 1300 hp because of the apo body.
1 less refresh (i have 11/tick in this idle set with favor up) for ~200 more hp is worth it to me

Except...you instantly lose (and won't get back) that HP as soon as you use any BP. So the HP isn't "real" HP unless you're just...standing around not using your Avatars.

You could get 3000 HP in your idle set, it wouldn't matter unless you have that in all your other sets too. As you're seeing here.
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By Nariont 2025-07-29 11:12:57
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Unless you're right next to the mob the HP dips shouldnt be too much of a risk, which you're already likely to get dropped jsut cause of no DT, i just wouldnt use apogee in idle personally if i can help it, you're already glass in that set as it is
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-07-29 11:52:49
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SMN doesn't take much damage. They're usually 20+ away from everything. I definitely prefer the Apogee body for idle most of the time. Not just for less HP ping pong, but also more refresh, and the rest of its defensive stats are slightly better too. Shomonjijoe is trash tier. If I actually fear taking damage I'll use Beckoner's Doublet but that's exceedingly rare.

Just keep Stoneskin up and be mindful of positioning, you'll be fine. I literally cannot remember the last time I died on SMN. I've been part of several full alliance wipes recently where I was one of the only ones left alive and just holding things with my avatar while the others recover (or kill it before they have a chance). Positioning is important in this game, especially for jobs like SMN.

Tarage said: »
I have a general question for those who solo on Summoner: What trusts do you regularly use? I may be playing it too conservatively because I usually go two tanks, AAEV and Amchuchu, two healers, Ygnas and Monberaux, and Arciela II for extra refresh. If I am doing harder content like Sortie, Amchuchu is usually the one who dies. Relying only on my Avatar for DD is reliable but show. I'm wondering who I should replace and for what. Maybe a tank and a healer for Zaid II and Shantotto II?
Trust DD is atrocious. What you're doing now sounds correct. Just tanks, healers, supports, to try to survive while your avatar kills stuff. Adding DDs means feeding more TP which means more TP moves which means less likely for your trusts to survive. Minimal TP feed is one of SMN's most under-rated strengths.

My core group is AAEV, Yoran, and King of Hearts (he's my preferred RDM as he prioritizes Dia3 extremely high). Extras are usually Ygnas, Amchuchu, and/or Joachim. I don't use Monb because I hate him and his damn 5 minute protect that he always uses to overwrite 30 minute protects.
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By Tarage 2025-07-29 21:49:09
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SkyfangR said: »
i used to idle in apogee body +1. i switched shomonjijoe because my idle set had something like 1300 hp because of the apo body.
1 less refresh (i have 11/tick in this idle set with favor up) for ~200 more hp is worth it to me

Then you're gonna lose 200 hp every time you BP.
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By SkyfangR 2025-07-31 13:55:07
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
SkyfangR said: »
i used to idle in apogee body +1. i switched shomonjijoe because my idle set had something like 1300 hp because of the apo body.
1 less refresh (i have 11/tick in this idle set with favor up) for ~200 more hp is worth it to me

Except...you instantly lose (and won't get back) that HP as soon as you use any BP. So the HP isn't "real" HP unless you're just...standing around not using your Avatars.

You could get 3000 HP in your idle set, it wouldn't matter unless you have that in all your other sets too. As you're seeing here.

... that is a good point. didnt think of it like that
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2025-09-24 15:06:03
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Out of interest why does the perp set not use beckoner's earring for lvl up and refresh?
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By Shichishito 2025-09-24 15:21:46
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Asura.Pergatory said: »
I don't use Monb because I hate him and his damn 5 minute protect that he always uses to overwrite 30 minute protects.
I use monberaux a lot but that 5 minute shell/protect... I bet Tanaka showed up at the office for a visit that day.

Cerberus.Cahlum said: »
Out of interest why does the perp set not use beckoner's earring for lvl up and refresh?
Most likely overlooked, not updated yet.

looking at the Idle -Prep/Refresh Advanced set it seems odd anyway cause it partially seems to be made with pet beeing inactive yet some choices don't seem optimal for that either since you could squeeze extra refresh in with contemplator +1, another stikini +1 for summoner's ring and switch evans earring for a beckoner's.
With active pet and Nirvana you'd probably want to drop the summoner ring for a second stikini ring +1, the evans earring for a beckoner's earring /+1/+2 and the baayami sabots +1 for Beckoner's Pigaches +2/+3 or Convoker's Pigaches +3/+4.

Beckoner's Horn +3 Is also more refresh than Convoker's Horn +3/+4.
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By Chimerawizard 2025-09-24 16:19:44
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Anybody bothered building up a 670 idle skill for Avatar's Favor?
Given the +50 skill you get at ML50 I can see some options with a couple of small sacrifices, whereas before ML it was totally not worth it imho.

ItemSet 397164

This is what I've used. It's very much lacking in DT but I'm also nowhere near ML50. Currently ML12, which means you can drop 44 skill from this if you're ML50. I'd probably swap out the belt, back, rings as needed. If you don't need DT though, this option or something like it is fine.
there are several idle sets posted on page22 of the thread, starting with this post.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-09-24 16:42:32
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I'm currently using this exact set (no aug on Asteria+1 'cause I'm cheap)

ItemSet 397165

Exactly 670 skill at ML50, but it "requires" idling in Vox Grip.
Which is fine if you're leaving main/sub slots unlocked. If for whatever reason you want to lock them to build TP and keep AM up, then this set is no longer valid.
Or rather... it's no longer getting you 670 skill.
If for whatever reason you're aiming for the previous skill tier, then you can adjust a lot of slots and have a better idle set, stats wise.
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