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By sorge74 2026-06-10 14:07:27
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I'm kind of slow so help me out: 5 shards per rank means you need 150 shards to R30 a single piece of gear, and 60 matters total (30 of each), plus the initial 5 shards and 2 matters to uncurse is that right?

Yeah, 155 associated shards + 31 alabaster matter + 31 murky matter for going from uncursing all the way to R30 (plus units of course), unless you started with NQ/HQ1 in which case add +5 shards/+1 alabaster/+1 murky if you plan to transfer augments to HQ2 in the future.

A fun perceptive on the weapons. For the cost of 155 shards, how many aeonics/relics/su5 could you get for that gil? As while having an extra 10 hours a week to grind sprite for a prime....
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By Asura.Volteczero 2026-06-10 14:59:37
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I'll continue to not do Limbus, no changes to the boring content whatsoever
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-06-10 15:03:01
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sorge74 said: »
For the cost of 155 shards, how many...su5

At least two Su5s (Rostam) worth, fully auged beginning to end if you paid someone to do the farming for you (3m/run), or maybe even if you bought the crystals. With some money left over.
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By Phoenix.Madotsuki 2026-06-10 15:11:07
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Yeah, this is precisely why I'm only doing it slowly with the crystals I get naturally + donations from a friend (repaying them by giving them my Galka shards from my dualbox character). Not sure if I would bother if I wasn't playing Mithra now since that's the set I'm augmenting. Also not religiously going my maximum chest runs each week because I know if I did I will definitely burn out (especially since more than a few times I've went 3/4 missing the bonus chest... really stings when you get no matter x3 in a row).
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2026-06-10 15:20:17
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So since I'm freshly returning and want to confirm how this Limbus ***works:

31 murky matter for a Murky item (1 to make, 30 for augments)
31 alabaster matter for an Alabaster item
31 Murky + 31 alabaster for any single su5 piece plus gil?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-10 15:26:06
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Plus units, but you got it

Killing trash currency used too
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-06-10 15:39:30
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Phoenix.Madotsuki said: »
Yeah, this is precisely why I'm only doing it slowly with the crystals I get naturally + donations from a friend (repaying them by giving them my Galka shards from my dualbox character). Not sure if I would bother if I wasn't playing Mithra now since that's the set I'm augmenting. Also not religiously going my maximum chest runs each week because I know if I did I will definitely burn out (especially since more than a few times I've went 3/4 missing the bonus chest... really stings when you get no matter x3 in a row).

Similar situation, not maxing boxes, using it as content to do when I see a shout but not overly grinding it out. Play a different job here and there, upgrade a random AF/Relic etc.

I would guess now that Limbus updates are done, they're going to sit back and review the analytics of people who are actively doing this weekly and adjust accordingly. Can't imagine the majority of players are even bothering with climbs, let alone NMs. I'm expecting an adjustment to improve this content, because not only is it entirely convoluted and boring, it's just way too long to see results. People lose motivation when grinds go perpetually into the future. You start seeing lower and lower participation if the rewards don't meet the effort (I.e. Vana bout).

If they don't want this content to flop any harder than it already has, I'm giving it three months before they drastically improve the drop spread on matters, units, and shards.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-06-10 15:56:50
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Damn... I hate being right...

Back to crimson desert I go... might unsub... I'd rather get tacobell once a month then pretend this games gonna make a comeback
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By tassidaru 2026-06-10 15:57:52
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the fact that the matters are not guaranteed is the real killer honestly. doing 31 runs per item isnt too insane on its own, but add in the millions of gil AND the probability that you'll need 50+ runs per item...yeah its kinda stupid
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By Kazumha 2026-06-10 16:10:47
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Ranger still gets no dagger/sword of note that has MAB on it, still stuck using SR daggers for TF.....
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By Dodik 2026-06-10 16:19:45
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tassidaru said: »
you'll need 50+ runs per item

My main has got two matters. Total.
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-06-10 16:51:19
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They still have the same problem, no private areas means all the "NMs" are dead within 15 ~ 60 minutes of spawning, then stay dead for the entire month. The only thing you are doing is running floors when is so mind numbing boring that people would rather rub dirt in their eyes then do it for any length of time.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-06-10 16:53:52
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
So since I'm freshly returning and want to confirm how this Limbus ***works:

31 murky matter for a Murky item (1 to make, 30 for augments)
31 alabaster matter for an Alabaster item
31 Murky + 31 alabaster for any single su5 piece plus gil?
Plus around ~600k Units for each item, but yeah you nailed it.

If you want more data a full clear of either zone, will give you ~8k units if you catch the 3k chest, or ~10k units if you catch the 5k chest.
The number of times you can open chest each week is limited to 5 (for each zone, separate counters).
This means you can't get more than a certain amount of Units per week, even if you spam.

An average (I said average, not BiS) run in Apollyon will take you ~38minutes per run, and in Temenos ~50 mins.
My fastest (and I'm not a super player) were <30mins for Apo and like <40 for Teme.
Runs taking >1hr in Teme are sadly not THAT rare with Pugs, not necessarily because people suck but because of "random" stuff that happens. People goin wrong floor, people dcing, people crashing, people going afk 1 min at random, people missing kills on different floors because people went up too early/late, people not stopping and losing 5th song, blah blah.
All pretty small things but when you put them together they all add up and make your runs much slower, and it's not just a matter of people having shitty gear and killing too slow.
That does happen of course but it's been pretty rare in my limited experience.
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