Letting someone use alternative medicine on themselves is one thing, but when they begin to be excessively vocal about it to the point others begin to believe it and are hurt by it, then it becomes a problem.
I have no qualms with letting the Darwin Awards give away special mentions and awards for culling the herd with absolute stupidity, but they shouldn't be trying to take others down with them.
The thing about actual medicine, is that you are informed of possible side effects, possible outcomes, and so forth.
This is rarely, if ever, the case with homeopathic medicine - often times it's the opposite, they all claim to have the "Miracle cure" for anything and everything that ails you, in one simple formula... so long as you buy it from THAT person.
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Yea but again I ask you who is forcing anyone to use this kind of medicine ?
I'm not defending the medicine I'm defending people's option to use it. It's the same as Jehova's people who would even let their children die cause transfusions are sinful. Beliefs that cause harm to people should be addressed, not ignored cause "well it's not me".
I don't see here anyone saying "why can't you respect ISIS beliefs?"
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Not to mention when it doesn't work and people get scared and go to real doctors the costs are much higher than if they went in the first place.
Or when people try "alternative" treatments and end up making their conditions worse. Then there's an entire division of "alternative medicine" that the medical boards were forced to allow to practice due to the way the laws are written. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Using it as a supplement is fine. Unless it interferes with your actual medications. And when it does the homeopaths, of course, blame the medicine...not their unregulated "supplement." Valefor.Sehachan said: » I still question the point of your threads Lordgrim, since everytime anyone gives you a thorough explanation of why things aren't as you claim, you simply ignore it as you don't have a rebuttal, and you don't have one because science clearly is an obscure field to you. You keep assuming the world of medicine and pharmacy is controlled by some evil forces. And maybe it is, economically. But you know, vaccines, pills, treatments, these things aren't magically conjured into existence by a CEO that uses them to destroy the world, but they are mass produced using formulas that chemists and biologists work on everyday, in every part of the world. So unless you wanna claim that every person with a science degree in the world is part of a conspiracy to kill you and your friends, you're probably wrong. You sound so sure that no government or Industry or bank can do no wrong there or would not conspire to kill steal or hide anything. I provided facts. Think what you will as the saying goes. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. fonewear said: » Yea but again I ask you who is forcing anyone to use this kind of medicine ? I'm not defending the medicine I'm defending people's option to use it. The problem is they're given massive misinformation by very persuasive speakers, speakers that have a financial stake in selling the lie. Unfortunately I see both sides of this issue and have a hard time grasping what the fair solution is. We can't round up everyone who peddles nonsense and throw them in prison. So what do you do? Regulate the ever-loving crap out of these products? I dunno.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » We can't round up everyone who peddles nonsense and throw them in prison.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Unfortunately I see both sides of this issue and have a hard time grasping what the fair solution is. We can't round up everyone who peddles nonsense and throw them in prison. So what do you do? Regulate the ever-loving crap out of these products? I dunno. That is sorta my point. It is about freedom of choice. Not so much interested in the this medicine vs that medicine. Sure governments can do wrong. Sure a company's policies can do wrong. But said company relies on normal employees to produces medicines. They are not magically created by the president of Illuminati, Obama doesn't have a degree in pharmacy!
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Valefor.Sehachan said: » Sure governments can do wrong. Sure a company's policies can do wrong. But said company relies on normal employees to produces medicines. They are not magically created by the president of Illuminati, Obama doesn't have a degree in pharmacy! How do you know did you ask him ! Siren.Lordgrim said: » I provided facts You don't provide facts, you provide conspiracy theories that you believe in either cause you are paranoid or because your life is boring.
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I am not into alternative medicine per se but I really don't think. The goal of alternative medicine is to kill people. Or if people do die well *** em !
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » We can't round up everyone who peddles nonsense and throw them in prison. No, but you can prevent their business practices. Require them to carry malpractice insurance. Require them to back their claims with evidence.
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Siren.Lordgrim said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » I still question the point of your threads Lordgrim, since everytime anyone gives you a thorough explanation of why things aren't as you claim, you simply ignore it as you don't have a rebuttal, and you don't have one because science clearly is an obscure field to you. You keep assuming the world of medicine and pharmacy is controlled by some evil forces. And maybe it is, economically. But you know, vaccines, pills, treatments, these things aren't magically conjured into existence by a CEO that uses them to destroy the world, but they are mass produced using formulas that chemists and biologists work on everyday, in every part of the world. So unless you wanna claim that every person with a science degree in the world is part of a conspiracy to kill you and your friends, you're probably wrong. You sound so sure that no government or Industry or bank can do no wrong there or would not conspire to kill steal or hide anything. I provided facts. Think what you will as the saying goes. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I know people in the pharmaceutical industry. Regardless of what crazy plans you think the company bigwigs have, the people who develop the products do so with the intent of saving lives. It is absolutely ludicrous to infer that everyone is "in on it".
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I asked Obama in a telephone conversation over a Dixie cup string phone.
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Bloodrose said: » I asked Obama in a telephone conversation over a Dixie cup string phone. I asked him if he is black or white he said depends on who I'm talking to ! fonewear said: » I am not into alternative medicine per se but I really don't think. The goal of alternative medicine is to kill people. Or if people do die well *** em ! I mean "Dr. OZ" is a sensation and people buy that garbage up. That is doing a lot of harm to society.
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Jetackuu said: » fonewear said: » I am not into alternative medicine per se but I really don't think. The goal of alternative medicine is to kill people. Or if people do die well *** em ! I mean "Dr. OZ" is a sensation and people buy that garbage up. That is doing a lot of harm to society. That is why I said *** em. If they want to buy into it let them. fonewear said: » Jetackuu said: » fonewear said: » I am not into alternative medicine per se but I really don't think. The goal of alternative medicine is to kill people. Or if people do die well *** em ! I mean "Dr. OZ" is a sensation and people buy that garbage up. That is doing a lot of harm to society. That is why I said *** em. If they want to buy into it let them. I guess you just don't comprehend the severe problem that creates. Or want to.
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The only problem is I didn't come up with selling dumb people things for money first !
We might have to convert Big Ben from the world's most accurate clock tower into the world's most accurate irony meter.
Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Yea but again I ask you who is forcing anyone to use this kind of medicine ? I'm not defending the medicine I'm defending people's option to use it. The problem is they're given massive misinformation by very persuasive speakers, speakers that have a financial stake in selling the lie. So your saying the Pharmaceutical industry is giving these Holistic doctors massive amounts of money to help them ? Your wrong I call *** on this thought, because the only misinformation i have seen has always been against the Profit margin of every big Industry that has a basic monopoly on said product. They would never support a doctor who does not further poison a American Citizen |
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