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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-25 07:44:56
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Is this thread supposed to make fun of Infowars like how my Huff Post thread is set up?
If only...

Poe's law
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 07:45:58
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Drama Torama said: »
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Is this thread supposed to make fun of Infowars like how my Huff Post thread is set up?

Your HuffPost thread was the one he compared it to, when questioned about the need for it. So, sure. Fire away!
Well, that's good to hear.
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By fonewear 2015-07-25 07:46:33
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Is this thread supposed to make fun of Infowars like how my Huff Post thread is set up?
If only...

Poe's law

From article:

Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks.

Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously.[

All I have to say is lol
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By fonewear 2015-07-25 07:47:25
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You guys aren't in on in lordrgim or whatever his name is the best troll to ever live !


Sometimes you have to know when you are being out trolled by another troll and tip your fedora !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 07:47:29
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Is this thread supposed to make fun of Infowars like how my Huff Post thread is set up?
If only...

Poe's law
I'll take your Poe's law and give you.....

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 07:48:18
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fonewear said: »
You guys aren't in on in loldrgim or whatever his name is the best troll to ever live !
Fine by me, as long as that title stays away from me.
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By fonewear 2015-07-25 07:50:33
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I tip in your general direction good sir !

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 08:02:16
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I'm not an atheist douchebag!

I'm just an atheist....
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By Alexander.Drokin 2015-07-25 08:11:12
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Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
“Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable.”

And do you understand that while yes, there are certainly pragmatic problems with eugenics that MUST be curbed -- eliminating diversity, etc. -- there are positivies as well, like eliminating fatal/life-altering congenital conditions and the like*?


Edit:*To come full circle, you know. Like the autism you're (incorrectly) so DEATHLY AFRAID OF in vaccines that you'd rather children DIE OF PREVENTABLE DISEASE than contract.

You're not just wrong on many fronts, you're contradicting yourself too.
Sorry to bring this back two pages later, but it's eating at me to ask for clarification.

Is this post suggesting the elimination of autism, and that it would be a positive thing?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 08:14:24
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Alexander.Drokin said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
“Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable.”

And do you understand that while yes, there are certainly pragmatic problems with eugenics that MUST be curbed -- eliminating diversity, etc. -- there are positivies as well, like eliminating fatal/life-altering congenital conditions and the like*?


Edit:*To come full circle, you know. Like the autism you're (incorrectly) so DEATHLY AFRAID OF in vaccines that you'd rather children DIE OF PREVENTABLE DISEASE than contract.

You're not just wrong on many fronts, you're contradicting yourself too.
Sorry to bring this back two pages later, but it's eating at me to ask for clarification.

Is this post suggesting the elimination of autism, and that it would be a positive thing?
It's saying that idiotic people who are so afraid of an unfounded and unproven link between vaccines and autism that they rather let their children die from more serious and faster killing ailments than contract a mental disorder that they would have contracted anyway regardless of taking the vaccine to prevent their horrific deaths.
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By Alexander.Drokin 2015-07-25 08:18:35
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It's saying that idiotic people who are so afraid of an unfounded and unproven link between vaccines and autism that they rather let their children die from more serious and faster killing ailments than contract a mental disorder that they would have contracted anyway regardless of taking the vaccine to prevent their horrific deaths.
I caught that part.

It's these two parts:
Ramyrez said: »
there are positivies as well, like eliminating fatal/life-altering congenital conditions and the like*
Ramyrez said: »
*To come full circle, you know. Like the autism you're (incorrectly) so DEATHLY AFRAID OF

Maybe it's the placement of the first *, but my brain is reading them as autism being on the list of "things to be eliminated."

Guess I should have made that clear.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-25 08:34:27
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You're reading it wrong Drokin.
The eugenics part is about things like Parkinson.
The autism reference is about the fact that Lordgrim thinks that vaccinating children makes them autistic.
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By Seha 2015-07-25 08:35:28
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And by the way, if we could cure autism, we would.

edit: and it's not far off
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By Alexander.Drokin 2015-07-25 08:42:31
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
You're reading it wrong Drokin.
The eugenics part is about things like Parkinson.
The autism reference is about the fact that Lordgrim thinks that vaccinating children makes them autistic.
That's what I thought. I just wanted to be sure, because the wording and placement was tripping me up.

My son is autistic, and his biological mom is anti-vax because of it. There's just no reasoning with her. And even if they did have some sort of causal relationship (which I know there 100% is not), what good is withholding further vaccinations? Does she think he'll become double-autistic?

She completely ignores that there are people all throughout my family with autistic traits, both those diagnosed and undiagnosed. Myself included.

EDIT: I wouldn't "cure" it if given the option. Just as many lifelong Deaf people refuse cochlear implants. You're talking about fundamentally changing a person, all for the sake of making them easier for the rest of society to accept.

Yes, there are behavioral things that can come with it. Many times, they're co-morbid conditions, and not part of autism itself. If the worst struggle someone has is being non-verbal (or partially verbal like my son), or flapping their hands, or not making eye contact, where is the problem? There are some autistic people who would like to be "cured," but most that I've encountered just want to be accepted and reasonably accommodated, and there's nothing wrong with that. Similar to why public sidewalks are expected to be wheelchair accessible and the like.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2015-07-25 08:45:26
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there is no reasoning with a parent who believes they are protecting their child
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-25 08:57:51
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Alexander.Drokin said: »
I wouldn't "cure" it if given the option. Just as many lifelong Deaf people refuse cochlear implants. You're talking about fundamentally changing a person, all for the sake of making them easier for the rest of society to accept.

Yes, there are behavioral things that can come with it. Many times, they're co-morbid conditions, and not part of autism itself. If the worst struggle someone has is being non-verbal (or partially verbal like my son), or flapping their hands, or not making eye contact, where is the problem? There are some autistic people who would like to be "cured," but most that I've encountered just want to be accepted and reasonably accommodated, and there's nothing wrong with that. Similar to why public sidewalks are expected to be wheelchair accessible and the like.
There is nothing wrong with acceptance because there is nothing we can do about it. But if life could be improved I don't understand how anyone wouldn't want it.
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By Alexander.Drokin 2015-07-25 09:24:22
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I wouldn't "cure" it if given the option. Just as many lifelong Deaf people refuse cochlear implants. You're talking about fundamentally changing a person, all for the sake of making them easier for the rest of society to accept.

Yes, there are behavioral things that can come with it. Many times, they're co-morbid conditions, and not part of autism itself. If the worst struggle someone has is being non-verbal (or partially verbal like my son), or flapping their hands, or not making eye contact, where is the problem? There are some autistic people who would like to be "cured," but most that I've encountered just want to be accepted and reasonably accommodated, and there's nothing wrong with that. Similar to why public sidewalks are expected to be wheelchair accessible and the like.
There is nothing wrong with acceptance because there is nothing we can do about it. But if life could be improved I don't understand how anyone wouldn't want it.
Oh, believe me, I work to improve his life every chance I get. But I would never agree to changing his entire neurology. Eliminating some of the co-morbid conditions that many autistic people face would go a long way toward bettering quality of life without changing the person in a fundamental way. (Those with co-occurring epilepsy, for example. Depression is also very common. Anything with a higher prevalence in autistic people compared to the general population.)

Sometimes it's just about finding a coping strategy or accommodation. My son is sensitive to certain sounds, for example. Public restrooms tend to have high flush power toilets and those air hand dryers, and they normally make it hard for him to go in them. We take headphones with us pretty much everywhere we go, and he wears them when there's too much stimulation. They're not even noise-blocking headphones - they're XBox headphones. But the combination of altered perception and the pressure they provide is enough to let him go places like that without any issues.

EDIT: I'm also not saying that the option shouldn't be there, for those who want it. Just like my example of Deaf people and cochlear implants. Or technologies that are beginning to allow people who have been paralyzed to walk. There are plenty of people who would jump at the chance (no pun intended). But it should be up to the individual, not a requirement.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 15:04:18
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Alexander.Drokin said: »
EDIT: I wouldn't "cure" it if given the option. Just as many lifelong Deaf people refuse cochlear implants. You're talking about fundamentally changing a person, all for the sake of making them easier for the rest of society to accept.

Yes, there are behavioral things that can come with it. Many times, they're co-morbid conditions, and not part of autism itself. If the worst struggle someone has is being non-verbal (or partially verbal like my son), or flapping their hands, or not making eye contact, where is the problem? There are some autistic people who would like to be "cured," but most that I've encountered just want to be accepted and reasonably accommodated, and there's nothing wrong with that. Similar to why public sidewalks are expected to be wheelchair accessible and the like.
People who accumulated to their condition, sure, let them make their own choice.

However, if we can cure autism at a young age where it hasn't affected the child's social development, what's the harm in getting rid of the mental disorder then?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-07-25 20:15:21
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Drama Torama said: »
Whatever I might think of the content, the rules do still apply.

No one is forced to post in this, so if you can't stay on topic, don't post at all.
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By Drama Torama 2015-07-25 20:40:31
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Nothing has strayed too far from the topics you've introduced, and honestly, I'm amazed at the relatively low levels of vitriol involved for a P+R thread. People are actually debating (mostly refuting) your points.

So far, this has been the best case scenario for this thread. What's the complaint?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-25 23:04:40
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His complaint is that nobody is agreeing with him.
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By Drama Torama 2015-07-26 09:01:44
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
His complaint is that nobody is agreeing with him.

Well, sure. It's a crossover episode with the Corrupt-A-Wish thread:

"Granted! Your topic will get to ten pages, but no one will agree with you!"
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-26 09:11:51
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Hell, I think we could have all agreed that nobody would agree with him since the OP.

Only he and like 2 others are crazy enough to believe the ***infowars puts out.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-07-26 13:36:37
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I read a study somewhere that listening to too much Alex Jones causes autism.
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By fonewear 2015-07-26 16:37:33
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
I read a study somewhere that listening to too much Alex Jones causes autism.

All you need is 10 scientist to agree to do it. I suggest giving them money in a plain brown paper bag !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-26 16:39:09
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fonewear said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
I read a study somewhere that listening to too much Alex Jones causes autism.

All you need is 10 scientist to agree to do it. I suggest giving them money in a plain brown paper bag !
Unmarked bills too while you are at it.

Or put it in their Swedish bank accounts. Swiss accounts are too easy to trace, but nobody bothers to check the Swedes.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-26 16:40:14
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Personally, I would only accept shady money in a bag with the symbol of the dollar on it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-26 16:41:05
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Not me.

The bag would have to have the Euro symbol on it for me to take it.

Euro money is the only shady money to have...
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-26 16:42:08
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Way to ruin a joke, are you Ramy's cousin?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-07-26 16:42:59
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That was a joke? >.>

Also, not sure if you insulted Ramy or not....

*squint eyes*
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