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 Lakshmi.Amymy
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-09-04 09:50:34
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Looking for a fire weather in appropriate zone is like so hard. been trying for days. any advice or just keep showing up at those areas and cross my fingers? Thanks
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By Shiva.Eightball 2014-09-04 09:54:07
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It all depends what time of the year it is, which zone you been trying?
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By Ragnarok.Hotkarl 2014-09-04 09:59:41
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Use weather npc's and just be patient. I got mine in east/west altepa border way back in day I think.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-09-04 10:01:04
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Someone collected a bunch of weather data years ago and graphed it here
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If you check the vanadiel time of year using /clock , and refer to the chart, you can see that the jungle is actually the best time of year around august.
Back when I unlocked smn ages ago i would zone between the 2 jungles every 5mins.
If its not during the summer months, just pop between the altepa zones instead.
Weather npc is also good to check too before you do a 2-3hr span of weather camping.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-04 10:06:45
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I ended up getting my fire weather from Valkurm Dunes
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-04 10:06:54
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I think it's strange that chart only has 3 zones for fire weather, which we all know have more zones than that....

Mount Z is a good example.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-04 10:08:01
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It's so difficult because it was released in a time where SE made you work for every last teeny-tiny achievement.

These days, to borrow a phrase from Michael Westen, we get a little more carrot and a lot less stick.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-09-04 10:10:17
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The hard one for me was snow.

Rangemont Pass at L 45ish....
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-04 10:10:33
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It's even easier to check weather if you have a pair of Magian Spectacles - just use the spectacles while in the zone you want to check, and choose the Almanac option for a 3-day weather report.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-04 10:13:11
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The hard one for me was snow.

Rangemont Pass at L 45ish....

I thought it had to be an outdoor zone?
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-04 10:15:00
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I should also add that I had the best luck with Fire weather in Meriphataud Mountains back when I was trying to unlock SMN many years ago.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-09-04 10:15:12
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He meant, trying to run through it, to get to the glacier.

I got my fire in valkurm, just hangin' out till it popped.

The chart is prettttty old, it was made like before TOAU even came out. Or right around that time.
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-09-04 10:15:13
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thanks everyone that's great advice. i'll zone there every few minutes in the desert. ^^
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-04 10:16:06
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The hard one for me was snow.

Rangemont Pass at L 45ish....

I thought it had to be an outdoor zone?
Just weather.

All you have to do is go up to Glacier about 95% of the time to get ice, that's actually one of the easiest to get....
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-09-04 10:18:09
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because this game used to be the absolute best & everything was hard!
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2014-09-04 10:18:37
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Most days around mid day there will be fire weather in valkurm dunes it doesnt show on weather npcs and it doesnt last long but you dont need it to anyway.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-09-04 10:20:43
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It's also fairly common in Czeiak.
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By Asura.Isiolia 2014-09-04 10:23:46
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
It's also fairly common in Czeiak.

Doesn't count for the quest (personally saw this unlocking the job on my mule). WoTG zones also don't count, according to wikia.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-09-04 10:24:42
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The hard one for me was snow.

Rangemont Pass at L 45ish....

I thought it had to be an outdoor zone?
Yeah it has to be outdoor, it was just super scary going through that zone otw to glacier around level 30ish cause back at release sneak and invis duration was super flaky.

I was a poor newb that didnt know oil and powder was a bit smarter choice to use to get through there.

Some nice jp person escorted me through the zone and it was a icestorm when i zoned into glacier and i was so happy.
Good times.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-04 10:27:58
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Asura.Isiolia said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
It's also fairly common in Czeiak.

Doesn't count for the quest (personally saw this unlocking the job on my mule). WoTG zones also don't count, according to wikia.

The Zilart. Stuck-up prigs.
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By nagokasylph 2014-09-04 11:25:48
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I'm not sure if you have gotten your weather yet but an old school trick is go to the dunes before you go to bed. Zone into the dunes from the Konschtat Highlands zone line. Put the camera into first person and tape down your "walk backwards" button. You will back into Konschtat and as soon as you zone you will walk backwards into the dunes again. Leave it like this over night. When the CS starts you will not move and viola! Squirrel has his flames. Make sure you take a picture of your rainbow when your done. Its the only time La Theine gets one.
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By Siren.Sieha 2014-09-04 11:25:55
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could just afk in the desert or jungle while at work and sleeping...
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-09-04 11:27:36
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Mosin,
Unlocking a job that's not even new shouldn't be this annoying lol

thank you guys. got it just now by zoning from altep east and west back and forth
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By Asura.Meekriot 2014-09-04 11:27:37
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I started the quest, kept the ruby in my inventory for a long time and eventually collected all of the weathers. Didn't go out of my way for any of them. Not the quickest way, but you'll eventually get it this way.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-04 11:33:15
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Siren.Sieha said: »
could just afk in the desert or jungle while at work and sleeping...

That won't work, you have to zone in during weather for it to count. If you're already in the zone when the weather begins, it doesn't count.

Nagokasylph's idea would work though, since you'd be constantly zoning back and forth.
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By Bismarck.Phetty 2014-09-04 11:58:16
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Couldn't you just run over to the cloister of flames? It's always double fire weather there.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-04 12:15:33
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Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Couldn't you just run over to the cloister of flames? It's always double fire weather there.
Got to be outside.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-04 12:17:46
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The one time I got fire, I sat in Selbina until I saw it flare up, and zoned into the dunes, bam.

But in my travels the past few weeks, I've seen fire in Meriphataud Mountains and Tahrongi Canyon.

Then there was double fire somewhere and I was just like -.- I think it was the jungle.

But alas, that's old memories of old tasks coming back to haunt me.
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By Siren.Sieha 2014-09-04 12:18:07
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Siren.Sieha said: »
could just afk in the desert or jungle while at work and sleeping...

That won't work, you have to zone in during weather for it to count. If you're already in the zone when the weather begins, it doesn't count.

Nagokasylph's idea would work though, since you'd be constantly zoning back and forth.

well I didnt want to spell it out since its usually frowned on but you can make a script, macro, bot, whatever to do this many ways. even teleporting to the crystal over and over works since its considered a zone.
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By Ragnarok.Dannielle 2014-09-04 12:22:04
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Valefor.Sapphire said: »
Someone collected a bunch of weather data years ago and graphed it here
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If you check the vanadiel time of year using /clock , and refer to the chart, you can see that the jungle is actually the best time of year around august.
Back when I unlocked smn ages ago i would zone between the 2 jungles every 5mins.
If its not during the summer months, just pop between the altepa zones instead.
Weather npc is also good to check too before you do a 2-3hr span of weather camping.

I know that it's rare, but why isn't Valkurm Dunes listed for fire? I thought perhaps because it was listed for Earth, but there are other zones listed twice like the jungles.
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