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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-19 16:47:17
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Excuses are easy, expansion and pragmatism are hard.
Or simply put, getting up and doing something about [insert issue] rather than complaining about it is hard.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 16:48:12
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Chaos's Mom is easy.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 16:48:21
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I'm for talking about all of these issues, where do we start?
Here in a thread about Rick Perry's indictment, naturally.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-19 16:48:58
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Jetackuu said: »
Chaos's Mom is easy.
And here we go with the trolling.

How original.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 16:49:48
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King, that has nothing to do with the arguments being presented, strawman elsewhere.

We're talking about generational poverty and the underlying issues that create ghettoization of communities.
I'm sorry about your narrow vision. I know that you can't comprehend the scope of the issue, and instead focus (laser-like even) on one issue at a time.

Let's see how that works....

Your attempt to divert away from the underpinning issues is noted. Again, once you're in the poverty cycle bought and paid for by the municipality you live in, the results are predictable. House people in run down neighborhoods, with low income jobs and a structure that promotes seeing blacks as 'less than' and are you surprised when people rarely climb out? Neighborhoods are typically carved out for 'the others' either as whites flee the brown menaces or the neighborhood is municipally starved.

Look at the hire rates for college educated blacks versus whites. A white male with a record has a better shot of employment. Why? If you're black with a record (very possible if you live in a bad area) you might as well euthanize yourself. Look at the home loan rates, the type of loans given, where blacks are typically given choice to live in etc etc etc.

It doesn't matter how much work you put in. In America, if you're black not equal to your similarly situated white person. Period. If you're super rich then the rules no longer apply to you. See: Jay-Z, Oprah, Idris Elba, Dre and anyone else typically used in a strawman.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-08-19 16:50:37
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Or because they have almost no social mobility.
Good excuse.

Explain how people with no social mobility become rich again?

Or right, in your view of reality, they don't.

That's an oxymoron, most rich people inherited most or all of their wealth.
Sure, whatever you say.

Then again, your comment would be something I would expect from somebody who knows about as much business as a McDonald's manager.
The top 20% is quite different from the top 10%, 5%, 1%, or 0.1%. Considering how asymptotic the upper end of the curve is, it may be somewhat disingenuous to make a statement about averages of the top 20%. Arguably, there is no asymptotic behavior on the bottom 20% (unless negative income is defined somehow, which seems unlikely). Which is one of the reasons why access to the raw data is so very important.

It also describes households, not individuals.

But this gets into the definition of what is rich (or upper class), versus affluent. So for the statement to be describing the rich accurately, it would need to be looking somewhere at the top 1%.
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 16:51:45
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Steve Jobs earned all his money selling fruit to hipsters.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 16:52:34
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Jetackuu said: »
Chaos's Mom is easy.
And here we go with the joking.

How original.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 16:52:56
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fonewear said: »
Steve Jobs earned all his money selling fruit to hipsters.
and convincing others it was better than the rest, when it wasn't.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 16:53:23
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Jetackuu said: »
I'm for talking about all of these issues, where do we start?
Here in a thread about Rick Perry's indictment, naturally.

Beer or whiskey?
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 16:53:57
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Excuses are easy, expansion and pragmatism are hard.
Or simply put, getting up and doing something about feminism rather than complaining about it is hard.
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 16:54:20
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Jetackuu said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Jetackuu said: »
I'm for talking about all of these issues, where do we start?
Here in a thread about Rick Perry's indictment, naturally.

Beer or whiskey?

Beer and whiskey !
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 16:55:16
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You can keep the beer, but I was going to share the whiskey.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-08-19 16:55:40
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Calling people lazy because they are not successful is just ignorance.
That's not why they are lazy. Demanding that they get more money for less work than they already do, even though they already do minimum wage work, and not do anything to improve themselves, that's lazy.

I'm sorry, but anyone demanding $15/hr for flipping burgers is doing nothing but being counterproductive to society.
Why?
And how is someone demanding $30/hr for doing tax returns any more productive to society than someone flipping burgers?
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 16:55:48
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Side bar whoever is filling in for Wolf Blizter is quite scrumptious.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-19 16:56:15
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Calling people lazy because they are not successful is just ignorance.
That's not why they are lazy. Demanding that they get more money for less work than they already do, even though they already do minimum wage work, and not do anything to improve themselves, that's lazy.

I'm sorry, but anyone demanding $15/hr for flipping burgers is doing nothing but being counterproductive to society.
Why?
And how is someone demanding $30/hr for doing tax returns any more productive to society than someone flipping burgers?

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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 17:00:16
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Depending on the area, and keeping consistent with inflation, nothing wrong with $15/hour for flipping a burger.

Hell I'm tempted to say regardless of the area.

It's funny they go on and on about people not wanting to work, yet when people work some of the shittiest jobs/schedules out there, they want them to also not make anything. How does it feel to speak rhetoric that is literally keeping the poor poor?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-19 17:02:24
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White privilege is a myth at best. People are 'racist' against anybody when and if it suits their needs, it just so happens blacks are an easy target because they generally live in poorer communities (aside for slavery). Poor communities all share the same traits. Just because a place is poor doesn't mean they're mostly black and just because a community is mostly black doesn't mean they're poor. But statistically the current layout places a majority of poorer communities as mostly black.

White guilt, as described by Martin Luther King Jr., is a real thing. And it comes from everybody, whether it be a black community blaming the white man, or the liberal elite pushing PC to extremes and everything else in between.

Racism on the other hand stems from poor communities looking for someone to blame, to rich people looking for a cause to make themselves feel better or deflect a situation they may have caused by gaining wealth. Generally people will tend to get along if they are content in their current situation in life.

Have Vs Have not, be content where you are in life, or do something to make it better.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-19 17:03:15
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Jetackuu said: »
You can keep the beer, but I was going to share the whiskey.
Only the good beer. None of that cheap stuff.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 17:03:23
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What people forget is "the man" is keeping everyone they can down, not just "the blacks."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-19 17:05:25
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Calling people lazy because they are not successful is just ignorance.
That's not why they are lazy. Demanding that they get more money for less work than they already do, even though they already do minimum wage work, and not do anything to improve themselves, that's lazy.

I'm sorry, but anyone demanding $15/hr for flipping burgers is doing nothing but being counterproductive to society.
Why?
And how is someone demanding $30/hr for doing tax returns any more productive to society than someone flipping burgers?
Doing tax returns generally requires more knowledge, IE. math skills to knowing the tax codes, than flipping burgers.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-19 17:05:57
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Calling people lazy because they are not successful is just ignorance.
That's not why they are lazy. Demanding that they get more money for less work than they already do, even though they already do minimum wage work, and not do anything to improve themselves, that's lazy.

I'm sorry, but anyone demanding $15/hr for flipping burgers is doing nothing but being counterproductive to society.
Why?
And how is someone demanding $30/hr for doing tax returns any more productive to society than someone flipping burgers?
If you are paying $30/hr for tax returns, you better double check the work into it.

But how many people can you trust to know the IRC and get you returns for the least amount of tax legally?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-19 17:05:58
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Chaos's Mom is easy.
And here we go with the joking.

How original.
ftfy
Fair enough. Hard to tell sometimes with you lately :P
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 17:05:59
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I feel guilty but not for being white...
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-08-19 17:10:26
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Jetackuu said: »
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If you wish to prevent any individual person possessing biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons, ICBMs, rocket launchers, tanks, mortars, artillery, etc. then you are violating their absolute right to bear arms.

Most rational people recognize that there should be some limits on what arms individuals are allowed to possess.

If you agree that some are allowed to be prevented, then all you are doing is trying to define the scope of encroachment on the right to bear arms.

But they're not equivocal, nuclear weapons and chemical weapons both contain items that are banned by their inherit danger in themselves, regardless of being weaponized.

However the rest of that list should be allowed, 100% and the fact that they try to limit it is a direct violation of the 2nd amendment.
Biological weapons should be allowed? And chemical weapons also includes tear gas and pepper spray. As for uranium, to the best of my knowledge it is regulated, not banned.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 17:12:57
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
White privilege is a myth at best. People are 'racist' against anybody when and if it suits their needs, it just so happens blacks are an easy target because they generally live in poorer communities (aside for slavery). Poor communities all share the same traits. Just because a place is poor doesn't mean they're mostly black and just because a community is mostly black doesn't mean they're poor. But statistically the current layout places a majority of poorer communities as mostly black.

White guilt, as described by Martin Luther King Jr., is a real thing. And it comes from everybody, whether it be a black community blaming the white man, or the liberal elite pushing PC to extremes and everything else in between.

Racism on the other hand stems from poor communities looking for someone to blame, to rich people looking for a cause to make themselves feel better or deflect a situation they may have caused by gaining wealth. Generally people will tend to get along if they are content in their current situation in life.

Have Vs Have not, be content where you are in life, or do something to make it better.
Well your post is a pretty good example of it.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 17:14:20
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Jetackuu said: »
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If you wish to prevent any individual person possessing biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons, ICBMs, rocket launchers, tanks, mortars, artillery, etc. then you are violating their absolute right to bear arms.

Most rational people recognize that there should be some limits on what arms individuals are allowed to possess.

If you agree that some are allowed to be prevented, then all you are doing is trying to define the scope of encroachment on the right to bear arms.

But they're not equivocal, nuclear weapons and chemical weapons both contain items that are banned by their inherit danger in themselves, regardless of being weaponized.

However the rest of that list should be allowed, 100% and the fact that they try to limit it is a direct violation of the 2nd amendment.
Biological weapons should be allowed? And chemical weapons also includes tear gas and pepper spray. As for uranium, to the best of my knowledge it is regulated, not banned.
Sorry, meant to include that, read it too fast.

It's regulated to the point of you're not allowed to enrich yellow cake, even for power, but I'm fine with somebody having the rest of the rocket.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-08-19 17:14:49
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Calling people lazy because they are not successful is just ignorance.
That's not why they are lazy. Demanding that they get more money for less work than they already do, even though they already do minimum wage work, and not do anything to improve themselves, that's lazy.

I'm sorry, but anyone demanding $15/hr for flipping burgers is doing nothing but being counterproductive to society.
Why?
And how is someone demanding $30/hr for doing tax returns any more productive to society than someone flipping burgers?
If you are paying $30/hr for tax returns, you better double check the work into it.

But how many people can you trust to know the IRC and get you returns for the least amount of tax legally?
How is that any more productive to society than someone flipping burgers? How do you evaluate worth, in such a situation?
This gets back to the simple fact that relevance or benefit to society has little bearing whatsoever on prevailing wages.
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 17:16:52
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Depends on how good of a burger we are talking about ?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-08-19 17:17:44
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Jetackuu said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
If you wish to prevent any individual person possessing biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons, ICBMs, rocket launchers, tanks, mortars, artillery, etc. then you are violating their absolute right to bear arms.

Most rational people recognize that there should be some limits on what arms individuals are allowed to possess.

If you agree that some are allowed to be prevented, then all you are doing is trying to define the scope of encroachment on the right to bear arms.

But they're not equivocal, nuclear weapons and chemical weapons both contain items that are banned by their inherit danger in themselves, regardless of being weaponized.

However the rest of that list should be allowed, 100% and the fact that they try to limit it is a direct violation of the 2nd amendment.
Biological weapons should be allowed? And chemical weapons also includes tear gas and pepper spray. As for uranium, to the best of my knowledge it is regulated, not banned.
Sorry, meant to include that, read it too fast.

It's regulated to the point of you're not allowed to enrich yellow cake, even for power, but I'm fine with somebody having the rest of the rocket.
Yes, but it isn't regulated because of the inherent danger itself, but to prevent someone from accumulating enough to build a weapon.
But why prevent someone from having any of the armaments that the government can have?
After all, you have the right to bear arms. Any armaments, no?
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