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By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 12:01:17
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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5. "gun nuts" are anything but mentally defective, and the "problem" isn't the guns or the availability of them, but those who wish to use them r any tool they can get their hands on to do violence.

No, "gun rights advocates" are not mentally defective. "Gun nuts" are, in fact, just that. Nuts. Try reading some of the things people say when a politician -- especially a female one -- suggest further gun control. They say some of the most vile ***you can imagine.

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6. Ramy there is a romance about guns in this county but it isn't as you describe, and it's a good thing, not bad. The NRA (as much as I dislike them) needs to keep doing what they are doing, as the subject of gun control isn't about guns.

I didn't say whether it was entirely good or bad. Just present. Though I'd like to see how you describe it, if not how I did.

When he classifies the former as the latter, the statement stands.

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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-08-19 12:08:23
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Ramyrez, here's the test to determine whether you can participate:

1.) How do you pronounce "Mexia"?

2.) Have you been to a bachelor, bachelorette, or combo party where the entertainment included sniping coyotes off haybales with a .22?

3.) How do you pronounce "pecan"?

4.) How terrifying are wild hogs?


5.)



What is that? And if you happen upon the right answer, how would you pronounce it emphatically?
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-19 12:11:06
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I could totally pass that test, too bad idgaf about rick perry.

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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 12:19:38
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I'd say:

1) May-he-aa

2) Not specifically a pre-wedding party, no. But I've had to snipe porcupines at the family camp before. Little guys just insist on chewing on every piece of wood in sight, including tool hands, furniture, and the camp itself.

3) "delicious in pie".

4) Didn't need your freebie. Wild pigs are generally aggressive ***. And they tear up land to boot.

5) I'm assuming you're suggesting it's a chupacabra. I'd pronounce it emphatically as "ugly little ***!"

Though in truth I'm just playing along; I'll *** whatever politician I feel like!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 12:20:57
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
5) I'm assuming you're suggesting it's a chupacabra. I'd pronounce it emphatically as "ugly little ***!"

Nah, that's a KUY-oat.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 12:23:51
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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5) I'm assuming you're suggesting it's a chupacabra. I'd pronounce it emphatically as "ugly little ***!"

Nah, that's a KUY-oat.

I figured it was just a coyote, but given the appearance of illness, and knowing that people have suggested manged coyotes they've killed have been chupacabras, I decided to get playful.

But really. That's an unhealthy-looking coyote.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 12:26:40
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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5) I'm assuming you're suggesting it's a chupacabra. I'd pronounce it emphatically as "ugly little ***!"

Nah, that's a KUY-oat.

I figured it was just a coyote, but given the appearance of illness, and knowing that people have suggested manged coyotes they've killed have been chupacabras, I decided to get playful.

But really. That's an unhealthy-looking coyote.

You might be surprised how many of them look that way, mange is pretty common in wild Coyote populations.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 12:31:13
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
5) I'm assuming you're suggesting it's a chupacabra. I'd pronounce it emphatically as "ugly little ***!"

Nah, that's a KUY-oat.

I figured it was just a coyote, but given the appearance of illness, and knowing that people have suggested manged coyotes they've killed have been chupacabras, I decided to get playful.

But really. That's an unhealthy-looking coyote.

You might be surprised how many of them look that way, mange is pretty common in wild Coyote populations.

I'd only be surprised because I'd suspect in a place like Texas -- especially given the described-above bachelorette parties -- enough would get shot or otherwise killed as to avoid the mange spreading through the population like that.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-19 12:33:57
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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5) I'm assuming you're suggesting it's a chupacabra. I'd pronounce it emphatically as "ugly little ***!"

Nah, that's a KUY-oat.

I figured it was just a coyote, but given the appearance of illness, and knowing that people have suggested manged coyotes they've killed have been chupacabras, I decided to get playful.

But really. That's an unhealthy-looking coyote.

You might be surprised how many of them look that way, mange is pretty common in wild Coyote populations.

I'd only be surprised because I'd suspect in a place like Texas -- especially given the described-above bachelorette parties -- enough would get shot or otherwise killed as to avoid the mange spreading through the population like that.
Unless you are actively hunting coyotes, it would be hard to do that.

Especially since one would have to hunt over 100s of different pieces of property.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-08-19 12:41:36
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Actually, you're both right. People in the back-woods made claims that mangy, sickly coyotes were the infamous Chupacabra in the mid-2000s. :/

Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I'd only be surprised because I'd suspect in a place like Texas -- especially given the described-above bachelorette parties -- enough would get shot or otherwise killed as to avoid the mange spreading through the population like that.

One word...Cleburne. That was my explanation for it.

I think everyone gets a pass since KN isn't here to weigh in. Carry on.

EDIT: Nix the last part.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 12:53:57
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Hehe. Yeah. I knew there was a whole big thing where they sent a few coyotes for DNA testing because zomg hairless coyote, must be a monster!

Honestly, where I'm from is very, very similar to Texas in many ways. We've even got oil where the rest of Pennsylvania has coal.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-19 12:54:18
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I think everyone gets a pass since KN isn't here to weigh in. Carry on.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-08-19 13:00:16
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How many people even use their guns for anything other than going to the range/hunting/waiting for the war with the government?
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By fonewear 2014-08-19 13:00:43
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I use my gun to keep children away from me.
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How many people even use their guns for anything other than going to the range/hunting/waiting for the war with the government?
Besides gang members and those who rob convenient stores?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 13:04:08
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How many people even use their guns for anything other than going to the range/hunting/waiting for the war with the government?

The first two are the reasons I have always owned guns in the past, and consider them valid reasons to do so.

I mean, I guess I still technically do, but they're locked in a gun cabinet 150 miles away from me for the past decade. Haven't had a need.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-08-19 13:04:13
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
How many people even use their guns for anything other than going to the range/hunting/waiting for the war with the government?

The bolded are the more acceptable reasons to own a gun, just my opinion though. Stock-piling in paranoia is silly. I never understood the "security" argument either, but to each their own.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-19 13:05:25
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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How many people even use their guns for anything other than going to the range/hunting/waiting for the war with the government?

The bolded are the more acceptable reasons to own a gun, just my opinion though. Stock-piling in paranoia is silly. I never understood the "security" argument either, but to each their own.

I'm not against an open/concealed carry permit in certain situations; if I lived in the city or regularly traveled somewhere I felt was unsafe, I would probably have a concealed permit myself.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 13:11:20
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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How many people even use their guns for anything other than going to the range/hunting/waiting for the war with the government?

The bolded are the more acceptable reasons to own a gun, just my opinion though. Stock-piling in paranoia is silly. I never understood the "security" argument either, but to each their own.

I'm not against an open/concealed carry permit in certain situations; if I lived in the city or regularly traveled somewhere I felt was unsafe, I would probably have a concealed permit myself.

I carried concealed in both AZ and AK, for vastly different reasons. In AZ it was because construction had me out in the boonies alone with the real threat of being mugged. In AK because we were literally outside the edge of civilization with few means to protect ourselves from wild animals like wolves and moose (which are far more aggressive than people think). In both situations, carrying concealed was preferred because a holster is something to get caught on rigging or wires.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 13:13:24
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I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing.

The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has.

Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution.

All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't.

Because it's guaranteed, in writing.

Guns are designed to efficiently fire projectiles, not kill people.

I've owned a gun for over 2 years, it hasn't killed anyone yet.

You haven't refuted ***, as they are just tools. You cannot prove otherwise.

So are all the other rights that have limits based on negative impact. Free speech is limited when it causes undue hardship or malice. But it's guaranteed in writing so I should be able to yell fire in a crowded theatre then laugh when a kid gets trampled. Only the right to bear arms is defended without rationale.

It's really not irrationally defended. The country was founded on the idea that oppressed people could rise up and overthrow their government. Why on earth would people think the founders wouldn't want future generations to capable of doing the same thing? Do you think that we states or people could group together today and establish their own freedom?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 13:15:53
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing.

The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has.

Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution.

All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't.

Because it's guaranteed, in writing.

Guns are designed to efficiently fire projectiles, not kill people.

I've owned a gun for over 2 years, it hasn't killed anyone yet.

You haven't refuted ***, as they are just tools. You cannot prove otherwise.

So are all the other rights that have limits based on negative impact. Free speech is limited when it causes undue hardship or malice. But it's guaranteed in writing so I should be able to yell fire in a crowded theatre then laugh when a kid gets trampled. Only the right to bear arms is defended without rationale.

It's really not irrationally defended. The country was founded on the idea that oppressed people could rise up and overthrow their government. Why on earth would people think the founders wouldn't want future generations to capable of doing the same thing? Do you think that we states or people could group together today and establish their own freedom?

Because your average gun owner is a well trained and disciplined rifleman capable of wielding a dozen machine pistols like Neo...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-19 13:19:57
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing.

The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has.

Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution.

All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't.

Because it's guaranteed, in writing.

Guns are designed to efficiently fire projectiles, not kill people.

I've owned a gun for over 2 years, it hasn't killed anyone yet.

You haven't refuted ***, as they are just tools. You cannot prove otherwise.

So are all the other rights that have limits based on negative impact. Free speech is limited when it causes undue hardship or malice. But it's guaranteed in writing so I should be able to yell fire in a crowded theatre then laugh when a kid gets trampled. Only the right to bear arms is defended without rationale.

It's really not irrationally defended. The country was founded on the idea that oppressed people could rise up and overthrow their government. Why on earth would people think the founders wouldn't want future generations to capable of doing the same thing? Do you think that we states or people could group together today and establish their own freedom?

Because your average gun owner is a well trained and disciplined rifleman capable of wielding a dozen machine pistols like Neo...
And you think that they will still be untrained if they were serious enough to stage a revolution against their own country?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 13:20:26
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Oooh, rights are absolute now? Brb, ritual human sacrifice.

Rights are given to us by our creator, not our government. That's pretty much why the constitution is so important. It was the first founding of a government based on such principles.
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I always find the war with the government reasoning entertaining. It's fairly serious though... I know a guy who's spent hundreds of thousands of dollars stocking up on weaponry and has a small bunker on his property. I told him I'd come visit if the zombie apocolypse ever hit.

Around 230,000 guns are stolen every year from law abiding citizens around 170,000 from home burglaries and the rest from various property thefts. I got a gun in my house and a NRA sign on my lawn... Please come steal my gun while I'm sleeping or away at work! I saw a post elsewhere once where a guy commented that no one would steal from a house with an NRA sign in front of it... the guy he was talking to countered with "unless they want to steal your gun"

The number of uses of guns for self defense is highly contended ranging from 100,000 to 2,000,000...

To be honest though we are past the point of take all guns off the street as there are almost more guns out there in civilian hands than there are people in the country... To me its more about educating people on how to use the guns they purchase... I've always been an advocate of something like the requirements to obtain a drivers license or subsequent military or police experience.

We can sensationalize it any ways we like highlighting mass murders, single ones or on the other side argue how we might need to rise up one day or protect our families from a burglar or any other type of criminal. None of it will do any good for what's actually happening out in reality. It's all good and such for you to want to have 10,000 kids have guns on school campus to stop the one that goes bonkers but then you have 10,000 unexpereinced firearm owners armed with deadly weapons that they will probably end up shooting another student with in an attempt to stop the offender.

Something needs to be done but we're mostly focused on the extremes on both ends to do any real good.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 13:26:13
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Oooh, rights are absolute now? Brb, ritual human sacrifice.

Rights are given to us by our creator, not our government. That's pretty much why the constitution is so important. It was the first founding of a government based on such principles.
That has nothing to do with rights being absolute with regard to the law. Most, maybe all, are not.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-19 13:27:19
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing.

The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has.

Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution.

All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't.

Because it's guaranteed, in writing.

Guns are designed to efficiently fire projectiles, not kill people.

I've owned a gun for over 2 years, it hasn't killed anyone yet.

You haven't refuted ***, as they are just tools. You cannot prove otherwise.

So are all the other rights that have limits based on negative impact. Free speech is limited when it causes undue hardship or malice. But it's guaranteed in writing so I should be able to yell fire in a crowded theatre then laugh when a kid gets trampled. Only the right to bear arms is defended without rationale.

It's really not irrationally defended. The country was founded on the idea that oppressed people could rise up and overthrow their government. Why on earth would people think the founders wouldn't want future generations to capable of doing the same thing? Do you think that we states or people could group together today and establish their own freedom?

Because your average gun owner is a well trained and disciplined rifleman capable of wielding a dozen machine pistols like Neo...
So only people who are officially trained like NEO should be allowed to own guns? The whole point of a gun is that it levels the playing field so that some working stiff such as myself is on equal ground with neo from the matrix.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 13:28:44
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Jetackuu said: »
I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing.

The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has.

Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution.

All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't.

Because it's guaranteed, in writing.

Guns are designed to efficiently fire projectiles, not kill people.

I've owned a gun for over 2 years, it hasn't killed anyone yet.

You haven't refuted ***, as they are just tools. You cannot prove otherwise.

So are all the other rights that have limits based on negative impact. Free speech is limited when it causes undue hardship or malice. But it's guaranteed in writing so I should be able to yell fire in a crowded theatre then laugh when a kid gets trampled. Only the right to bear arms is defended without rationale.

It's really not irrationally defended. The country was founded on the idea that oppressed people could rise up and overthrow their government. Why on earth would people think the founders wouldn't want future generations to capable of doing the same thing? Do you think that we states or people could group together today and establish their own freedom?

Because your average gun owner is a well trained and disciplined rifleman capable of wielding a dozen machine pistols like Neo...
And you think that they will still be untrained if they were serious enough to stage a revolution against their own country?

The level of training and discipline required to stage anything more than another Waco is a lifelong commitment. Some people are serious about maintaining militia, but the state of the modern military completely invalidates current militia and gun enthusiasts as revolutionaries. The time for training is BEFORE an attack. I still don't understand this romance with revolution. If you could organize enough people to pose any kind of threat to the union, you'd have all the necessary power to change the government without force, that's the purpose of "democracy". The right to settle grievances is also a protected right. It calls to question the stability of people who threaten revolution before attempting peaceable solutions.
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