Gov. Rick Perry Indicted On Felony Charges

Well damn, I haven't been kept up to date on the status of Tim Horton's.

Oh, by the way, we're giving back Target. Place is not only an eyesore, but the way they run business, really *** sucks.

They can't seem to keep ***in stock, fail at every aspect of customer service... ever... and the "management" team that came up for store launch from the US are complete jackholes.

the big difference is you can't protect yourself from wrongful police actions. if a cops thinks he might be in danger he can shoot and kill you. if you feel threatened mortally by a cop and shoot him you are going to be murdered by said police or go to prison for the rest of your life.

McDonald's makes the biggest mistakes.

Every time I order an ELT (Egg, Lettuce, Tomato) bagel, they give me just the egg and the *** lettuce.

Welcome to Walmart...err....Target business model 101.

I think the biggest mistake is having tomatoes in a bagel....

BLASPHEMER!

No, he's right.

That sounds gross.

Edit: Also, it should really at least be a BELT.

Get some *** bacon in there.

Real bacon.

Not your "Canadian Bacon". (HAM!)

I prefer both kinds of bacon at once.

EDIT: It's called Pemeal Bacon. And it's WAAAAY better than ham, or regular strip bacon.

I prefer bacon and ham.

There really isn't a bad kind of bacon. Even turkey bacon has its place.

I just really prefer a nice, thick cut of smoked, peppered bacon.

Try to stick to a foundation of facts in a debate, in order to prevent it from escalating into an argument.
Calling the other party all sorts of names, based on how right you feel you are, as opposed to others, only weakens your position and your credibility.


That could be argued to be valid for both sides here.
I can't say I'm impressed by the results of gun control measures so far either.
For example gun-free zones don't seem to be very effective at deterring violent criminals from bringing firearms there and committing atrocities.
If anything, most gun control measures in some shape or form only hamper and endanger law-abiding citizen.
They have no real effect on hardened criminals as they simply have no regard for the laws to begin with.
These are often "feel good" laws, enacted so politicians can farm votes from gullible voters who sadly fail to see past the facade for the true farce they really are...


As do most components for a home-made bomb.
In fact you can find the recipes on the internet, uncensored and up for grabs by anyone, without any background check.
No inanimate object is inherently "evil".
No legal object is pre-destined to be made into something illegal or used for something illegal.
That train of thought would imply the absence of free will, morals and common sense in all of the potential owners, which would be both illogical and far too easy of an excuse.
Only when bad intentions are combined with such an inanimate object, do we see atrocities.
Why is it then that the main concern is not with how someone came to be so violently insane without anyone noticing, but instead it's focused on how or where he got the gun, or what gun it was.


Have you ever even held a modern firearm? Do you know how they're built, what they're constructed from and how durable they are?
Pistols like glocks or rifles like AK's will outlast you, your son and your grandson easily.
The idea that shutting down the supply of firearms would have an immediate effect is utopian to say the least.
All that would do is increase the price of available firearms.
The result would eventually be 2 isolated groups with firearms: the rich who can afford them and the criminals who simply obtain them illegally by any means.
Regular hardworking, law abiding middle class citizens would be easy prey for both, not to mention the government (should the need ever arise).


The Brady Act put forth the requirement of performing background checks, to be conducted by NICS, on people attempting to purchase a firearm from an FFL, manufacturer or importer.
This is still true to this day, as such background checks are still being performed.
In fact, the FBI reports that more than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade, leading to more than 700,000 denials.
Yet during the first 17 months of the Act, only 7 people were convicted for violating it.
In the first year of the Act, 250 cases were referred for prosecution and 217 of them were rejected.
These low prosecution results, demonstrate the inability to efficiently enforce said act.
So what did you mean with your "keeping it on the books 10 more years" statement?

Stop derailing the topic of bacon!

pemeal Bacon is made from the tenderloin and has a cornmeal crust. Canadian Bacon is kind of like Ham.

America's problems with gun violence go well beyond the obtainment -- legal or otherwise -- of the physical firearms.

There's a romance about guns in this country. A nostalgia for firearms and soldiers of days gone by, not to mention the action heros who gun down terrible people at will. And, when you've got hundreds of millions of people, and so many of them share this mindset (whether they acknowledge -- or even realize it -- or not), you're going to get a small percentage that's just *** crazy. Sometimes they get set off and shoot up a school or gym. Sometimes they get a badge and taken any excuse they can get to gun down a "criminal", due process be damned.

The guns aren't the problem.

People are the problem.

But the thing is, stricter gun control is advocated with the best of intentions in mind by most people who propose it, so the NRA and other advocates need to stop responding like a bunch of *** psychopaths every time someone suggests more gun control.

In fact, I suggest those who react with vitriol and not rational discourse on the topic are precisely the people who need to not have guns, because if your response to "maybe we should reign in firearms" is, "I'll kill you where you sleep you hippie ***"...just maybe you're not really the kind thinking clearly enough to even use words properly, let alone deadly force.

Also, on topic, I'd suggest Rick Perry should be castrated and thrown to the wolves, but wolves are awesome and shouldn't be served such foul fare.

Why do you think that?

Seriously though. Most everyone who has a negative viewpoint about Rick Perry come from outside the state while most people with a positive/neutral viewpoint about him are actual Texans.

Only Zahrah can honestly comment negatively about Rick. And I understand her viewpoint too.

1.) Vic is right in that TTC more or less fizzled out, not only that, but it basically piggy-backed on infrastructure problems that were already being addressed beginning in the 1990s, so you can't credit Perry with that.

2.) Guns? Apparently, some people have been turning a blind eye to the ruckus in Plano/Arlington this year.

3.) Are the rest of the pages worth reading or does the rest of this thread pertain to guns?

4.) I need more coffee.

Fizzled out yes, outright failed? Not really.

Side note Zah, have you been on SH130 yet? It is actually nicely done highway.

1. *** dunkin donutes, shitty as bland ***.

2. KK ftw.

3. canadian bacon is just ham, damnit

4. real bacon is awesome (not the wrap variety :P )

5. "gun nuts" are anything but mentally defective, and the "problem" isn't the guns or the availability of them, but those who wish to use them r any tool they can get their hands on to do violence.

6. Ramy there is a romance about guns in this county but it isn't as you describe, and it's a good thing, not bad. The NRA (as much as I dislike them) needs to keep doing what they are doing, as the subject of gun control isn't about guns.

Now I have a new fetish thanks Obama !

Oh and as for NAFTA: it still needs to go, *** your donuts. Even though it doesn't really work like that, unless they're actually importing everything to produce what they sell here, hey it would in fact do what we want: increase American production.

I'm a cop and I find the multiple references to donuts delicious.


Speaking ill of Dunkin Donuts that is boredeline un-American !


You can have your guns and religion I'll take my chocolate cake donuts thank you.

Either I'm drunk (possible) or I have no idea what this has to do with donuts and Rick Perry.

Further derail, I guess, but;

Clearly I'm speaking hyperbolically. I don't actually think anyone should put any surgical implements near his genitals.

As a man who was attempting to become president, I think it's fair for people outside Texas to *** him, however.

I am quite at odds with his stance on abortion/birth control/women's rights, religion, and education.

I think he lacks empathy or compassion for people, a trait shared with many of his party members these days. I can certainly see his draw from a fiscal standpoint if you're a Texan on solid financial footing, and while he may not be the worst choice out there, I don't really think he's someone I'd want in the driver's seat.

Back on topic: What is your favorite donut shop ?

No, "gun rights advocates" are not mentally defective. "Gun nuts" are, in fact, just that. Nuts. Try reading some of the things people say when a politician -- especially a female one -- suggest further gun control. They say some of the most vile ***you can imagine.


I didn't say whether it was entirely good or bad. Just present. Though I'd like to see how you describe it, if not how I did.

Dunkin Donuts is par for the course, at best.

Krispy Kreme is okay, but I generally prefer cake donuts to the pastry variety.

And Tim Horton's is better than both of them combined and then some.

I prefer cake donuts also. I believe Rick Perry prefers pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks though... so he is guilty of being a hipster.

Pumpkin Spice lattes are okay. I'd skip the overpriced crap at Starbucks though and just go to somewhere semi-local (Sheetz, for instance).

I'm just saying that it was never truly Perry's brainchild to begin with also.

Yes, every day basically, because of the suburb I moved to. I'm not going through the hassle of driving downtown en route to Corpus, Houston, SA, or any town or city south of ATX either. I have a toll tag to shoot down the west side to Caesar Chavez.