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Gov. Rick Perry indicted on felony charges
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 03:53:32
It's not a narrow interpretation, it is the only interpretation, that they went out of their way to define and reenforce.
Funny, because the right of individuals to bear arms is an interpretation of the 2nd amendment by the supreme court.
Again: one they don't have the authority to make, but they don't need to as it's in the constitution.
The 2nd amendment strictly deals with state militia, the supreme court ruled that it applied to individuals as well.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong. You have yet to be right even once the past 3-4-5 pages? and yet you still continue to be proven completely and totally wrong.. Its kinda sad..
Surprisingly, what I've said is actually the law, smugly saying I'm wrong doesn't mean crap, especially coming from you.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 03:54:08
It isn't.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 03:55:22
Once again: it's not, and you couldn't be more wrong on so many accounts.
That's the actual facts. Reality doesn't require your approval.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 03:56:00
Once again: it's not, and you couldn't be more wrong on so many accounts.
That's the actual facts. Reality doesn't require your approval. Again: nope, and back at ya.
By Altimaomega 2014-08-19 03:56:31
It's not a narrow interpretation, it is the only interpretation, that they went out of their way to define and reenforce.
Funny, because the right of individuals to bear arms is an interpretation of the 2nd amendment by the supreme court.
Again: one they don't have the authority to make, but they don't need to as it's in the constitution.
The 2nd amendment strictly deals with state militia, the supreme court ruled that it applied to individuals as well. lol no it doesn't...
but I et why you have such a hard time understanding all of this now.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It is specifically referring to state militias. The worry at the time was central control. State militias were a states only means of protecting itself from the federal government. The original meaning and the law of the land for the first 100 years of its existence was that the right to keep and bear arms was specific to state commissioned militia. It wasn't illegal to keep and bear, but it wasn't a protected right prior to the supreme court ruling in 1886 that allowed individuals the right to possess arms independent of a state militia.
So, if the supreme court doesn't have the power of judicial review, you don't have the right to keep and bear arms. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
OHHHH I see the supreme court added "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
the whole bolded part in 1886. Seriously dude you need take the massive *** whopping you've received here today like a man and go to bed.
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By Siren.Instant 2014-08-19 03:56:32
It is specifically referring to state militias.
And what does a "militia" consists off you think?
To elaborate on your statement, here is how Madison said it:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country."
All citizen are riflemen and part of "the militia" in times of need.
That "need" stands for threats foreign and domestic.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 03:58:15
COTUS said: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Reading is hard.
and your idea of a militia is also way off.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-19 03:58:52
Yeah, Jassik. You might be better off telling us exactly what you think would be a better and actually workable solution.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 03:59:05
It is specifically referring to state militias.
And what does a "militia" consists off you think?
To elaborate on your statement, here is how Madison said it:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country."
All citizen are riflemen and part of "the militia" in times of need.
Militia are commissioned by the governor of a state for the expressed purpose of ensuring the sovereignty of the state and sometimes pledged to the national army in time of war.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 03:59:31
It is specifically referring to state militias.
And what does a "militia" consists off you think?
To elaborate on your statement, here is how Madison said it:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country."
All citizen are riflemen and part of "the militia" in times of need.
Militia are commissioned by the governor of a state for the expressed purpose of ensuring the sovereignty of the state and sometimes pledged to the national army in time of war. wroooooong, but only because you're using that narrow, modern definition that didn't exist in 1789
By Altimaomega 2014-08-19 04:00:06
It's not a narrow interpretation, it is the only interpretation, that they went out of their way to define and reenforce.
Funny, because the right of individuals to bear arms is an interpretation of the 2nd amendment by the supreme court.
Again: one they don't have the authority to make, but they don't need to as it's in the constitution.
The 2nd amendment strictly deals with state militia, the supreme court ruled that it applied to individuals as well.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong. You have yet to be right even once the past 3-4-5 pages? and yet you still continue to be proven completely and totally wrong.. Its kinda sad..
Surprisingly, what I've said is actually the law, smugly saying I'm wrong doesn't mean crap, especially coming from you.
Yup coming from me and everyone else in this little discussion except for pleebo.. lol pleebo is your only backer, that's how sad you argument is right there.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 04:01:39
Yeah, Jassik. You might be better off telling us exactly what you think would be a better and actually workable solution.
I suggested two: standardize practice and accountability, increased scrutiny for excessive trafficing of weapons.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:01:40
I'm tired of talking to this anti-gun nut, anyone else?
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:02:19
Yeah, Jassik. You might be better off telling us exactly what you think would be a better and actually workable solution.
I suggested two: standardize practice and accountability, increased scrutiny for excessive trafficing of weapons. what you really mean is registration of every firearm, yeah: no thanks buddy.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:03:05
On another note: where's the due process on the mental issues side of the background check?
By Altimaomega 2014-08-19 04:04:57
It is specifically referring to state militias.
And what does a "militia" consists off you think?
To elaborate on your statement, here is how Madison said it:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country."
All citizen are riflemen and part of "the militia" in times of need.
Militia are commissioned by the governor of a state for the expressed purpose of ensuring the sovereignty of the state and sometimes pledged to the national army in time of war.
You need to step away from being a complete idiot for a minute and think about what you are typing.
By Altimaomega 2014-08-19 04:06:13
I'm tired of talking to this anti-gun nut, anyone else?
It's late i'm going to bed, you can hold down the fort.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 04:08:01
It is specifically referring to state militias.
And what does a "militia" consists off you think?
To elaborate on your statement, here is how Madison said it:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country."
All citizen are riflemen and part of "the militia" in times of need.
Militia are commissioned by the governor of a state for the expressed purpose of ensuring the sovereignty of the state and sometimes pledged to the national army in time of war. wroooooong, but only because you're using that narrow, modern definition that didn't exist in 1789
In 1789, militia comprised of men aged 18-45, commissioned and armed by the governor and ordered to maintain a state of readiness. The idea of a general militia consisting of all citizens, an unregulated militia, also existed at the time, but as only regulated militia were specifically granted the right to keep and bear arms... yada yada, keep trying to argue with it, that's the facts, bud.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:09:01
You're the only one trying to argue with the facts, well regulated meant well armed... and it was of all the people, all the people have the right to bear arms.
You're reading comprehension needs some serious work dude.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 04:09:49
Yeah, Jassik. You might be better off telling us exactly what you think would be a better and actually workable solution.
I suggested two: standardize practice and accountability, increased scrutiny for excessive trafficing of weapons. what you really mean is registration of every firearm, yeah: no thanks buddy.
Registration isn't required for accountability. It would be very difficult to prove that a seller had a reasonable suspicion the buyer had dubious intentions, but it would take little more than the possibility to make people think twice about who they're selling firearms to.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:11:02
Your idea of accountability is quite frankly moronic. A gun seller is no more at fault of a customer's crime than a grocer is at fault for you being obese.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 04:12:47
You're the only one trying to argue with the facts, well regulated meant well armed... and it was of all the people, all the people have the right to bear arms.
You're reading comprehension needs some serious work dude.
well regulated means "possessing proper discipline and training".
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:14:18
I'll put it this way: it does not say the right of the militia, nor the right of the state, but the right of the people.
It means the right of the people, again: reading is hard...
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:14:29
You're the only one trying to argue with the facts, well regulated meant well armed... and it was of all the people, all the people have the right to bear arms.
You're reading comprehension needs some serious work dude.
well regulated means "possessing proper discipline and training". wrong again
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-19 04:16:29
I'll put it this way: it does not say the right of the militia, nor the right of the state, but the right of the people.
It means the right of the people, again: reading is hard...
It's referring to the need of militia to maintain a state of readiness, guaranteeing them the right to keep and bear arms. I love how you continually read only half of the clause without regard to the context established by the first half.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-19 04:19:40
Your idea of accountability is quite frankly moronic. A gun seller is no more at fault of a customer's crime than a grocer is at fault for you being obese.
Bad analogy, being obese isn't a crime, there is rationale behind charging gun sellers with crimes such as accessory to murder-assault if the weapon they sold is used in the act.
A better analogy would be holding the the car dealership responsible for the Farmers Market 500 massacres just because their car was used.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:20:05
I'll put it this way: it does not say the right of the militia, nor the right of the state, but the right of the people.
It means the right of the people, again: reading is hard...
It's referring to the need of militia to maintain a state of readiness, guaranteeing them the right to keep and bear arms. I love how you continually read only half of the clause without regard to the context established by the first half.
I like how you keep thinking the second is dependent upon the first, when it's the other way around. I read both parts, yet I understand them as they were written, and intended.
It was meant for the people to be able to rise against the government.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-19 04:20:27
Altima's like that kid that hung out in the cool bathroom that nobody noticed. He added absolutely nothing, but his presence there made him feel like a big boy.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-19 04:21:06
Your idea of accountability is quite frankly moronic. A gun seller is no more at fault of a customer's crime than a grocer is at fault for you being obese.
Bad analogy, being obese isn't a crime, there is rationale behind charging gun sellers with crimes such as accessory to murder-assault if the weapon they sold is used in the act.
A better analogy would be holding the the car dealership responsible for the Farmers Market 500 massacres just because their car was used.
That's your opinion, I happen to disagree with your assessment.
But that one works as well.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-19 04:25:11
Altima's like that kid that hung out in the cool bathroom that nobody noticed. He added absolutely nothing, but his presence there made him feel like a big boy.
Hi pot, I've got a kettle you should meet.
Grand Jury indicts Rick Perry
Quote: (CNN) -- A grand jury has indicted Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, saying he abused his power by trying to pressure a district attorney to resign.
The two felony counts against Perry, a Republican, stem from his threat to veto funding for a statewide public integrity unit run by Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg unless she stepped down, the special prosecutor in the case, Michael McCrum, said.
Perry attorney David L. Botsford called the indictment a "political abuse of the court system." He said the action "violated the separation of powers" and "sets a dangerous precedent by allowing a grand jury to punish the exercise of a lawful and constitutional authority afforded to the Texas governor."
CNN affiliate KVUE reported that Perry will have to report to the Travis County Jail in the capital of Austin to be booked, fingerprinted and have his photo made for a mugshot.
Perry can continue to serve as governor while under indictment, KVUE reported. His attorneys could seek to have the charges thrown out, a motion that would delay the case, at the very least.
The grand jury in Travis County indicted the governor on charges of coercion of a public servant and abuse of his official capacity.
I actually didn't believe the headline when I first saw it, but its on every website, even the beloved Fox News. So this is real, its not some doomed publicity stunt *looking at you and your little lawsuit Boehner*
The failed Presidential candidate and pathetic governor of Texas is facing two felony counts of abusing power and coercion. He is going to be arrested, booked, fingerprinted, and a mugshot taken. Can't wait to see that.
Apparently he thought he could use his power to pressure an attorney to resign. I'm not surprised that he would attempt something like that due to his huge ego and lack of intellect, and living in Illinois, used to seeing governors go to jail. He is facing 99 years if convicted.
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