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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-02 19:49:30
Well that was an interesting back read.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-02 19:50:04
I'm sure interesting isn't the "best" word to use sir.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-02 20:17:21
You gotta admit, deconstructing the environmental role of the Bald Eagle was a new one for FFXIAH.com. Credit where credit is due to Blazed.
For the record, anyone who says that the symbol of America is anything other than the Bill of Rights is a dumbass.
First and only secular Radical Christian (pretends to be secular) state founded for the protection of the individual who ever is useful at the time against the group deemed 'the enemy' guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, enforced by the rule of law intimidation and brute force, protected by the militia from threats within and without forced aboard.
That is why American Exceptionalism isn't just some annoying thing Republican's go on about, it's a historical fact myth.
***, the UK is technically still a Theocracy under the Monarchy who still is head of the Church of England. ftfy.
American history is filled with hating and persecuting individuals that are from one group to the next group.
It's easier to list ethnic groups and cultures that America hasn't persecuted.
Here's where your post falls apart: I said "Founded", I never meant to imply America hasn't wiped its *** with the values. And the go-to rebuttal will probably be slavery, but it's easy to say in hindsight that "One world-shaking revolution at a time wasn't enough! #contextuallyoblivious"
I guess if I wanted to play the bonus round, I'd point out that there is no group in Human History that hasn't hated and persecuted individuals outside the group, which is exactly what made America's founding so exceptional. It set forth a legal protection against that kind of mob mentality, the fact that it was never even attempted until America speaks volumes toward the rest of humanity.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-02 20:30:02
I guess if I wanted to play the bonus round, I'd point out that there is no group in Human History that hasn't hated and persecuted individuals outside the group, which is exactly what made America's founding so exception. It set forth a legal protection against that kind of mob mentality, the fact that it was never even attempted until America speaks volumes toward the rest of humanity. Most of the time, though, it's hard to get people to not view historical events through a modern lens. Things that are "duh" now may have been inconceivable at the time.
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By Bahamut.Soraishin 2014-08-02 20:31:27
82 pages of pure troll, i've been reading backwards, its great.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-02 20:33:07
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »82 pages of pure troll, i've been reading backwards, its great. Not everyone is trolling sir.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-02 21:09:11
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-08-02 22:17:28
The original article is pretty good.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-08-03 02:17:52
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I say we go back to beer and kittens, and betting on when Hamas breaks the next ceasefire.
There won't be another ceasefire, Israel has just stated it won't stop until Hamas cease's to exist. Previously this was a limited war, I now expect Israel to escalate into total war. Lots of people are about to die as Israel will target and raze anywhere Hamas is, and since Hamas like to operate under civilian buildings you can expect most of Gaza to be rubble. Eventually Hamas will heroically flee to another country where they will go back to the old strategy of encouraging their faithful to be suicide bombers, while the religious leadership stays away from anything resembling a dangerous situation.
That is what you get when you elect a group like Hamas into power. It's also the reason why the Egyptian military tossed out the Muslim Brotherhood, much to the dismay of Progressives everywhere.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-03 02:24:28
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I say we go back to beer and kittens, and betting on when Hamas breaks the next ceasefire.
There won't be another ceasefire, Israel has just stated it won't stop until Hamas cease's to exist. Previously this was a limited war, I now expect Israel to escalate into total war. Lots of people are about to die as Israel will target and raze anywhere Hamas is, and since Hamas like to operate under civilian buildings you can expect most of Gaza to be rubble. Eventually Hamas will heroically flee to another country where they will go back to the old strategy of encouraging their faithful to be suicide bombers, while the religious leadership stays away from anything resembling a dangerous situation.
That is what you get when you elect a group like Hamas into power. It's also the reason why the Egyptian military tossed out the Muslim Brotherhood, much to the dismay of Progressives everywhere.lolwhat?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 02:37:38
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I say we go back to beer and kittens, and betting on when Hamas breaks the next ceasefire.
There won't be another ceasefire, Israel has just stated it won't stop until Hamas cease's to exist. Previously this was a limited war, I now expect Israel to escalate into total war. Lots of people are about to die as Israel will target and raze anywhere Hamas is, and since Hamas like to operate under civilian buildings you can expect most of Gaza to be rubble. Eventually Hamas will heroically flee to another country where they will go back to the old strategy of encouraging their faithful to be suicide bombers, while the religious leadership stays away from anything resembling a dangerous situation.
That is what you get when you elect a group like Hamas into power. It's also the reason why the Egyptian military tossed out the Muslim Brotherhood, much to the dismay of Progressives everywhere. Actually their mission right now was to destroy the tunnels. They have already begun to withdraw tanks and now just have forces deployed along the border in the event of more rocket attacks.
Nice try preaching more genocide and hatred though.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-03 03:41:41
I personally think Saevel just learned the word dismay and wanted to use it. You know how it is; I got a new toy and I wanna use it, *** making sense!
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-08-03 03:46:18
http://conservativetribune.com/no-more-ceasefires/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/02/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0G008720140802
First is a highly biased site but they have the video of the announcement. They won't stop with the tunnels and airstrikes are going to be stepped up.
From Fox, for those that read it.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/02/israel-signals-scaling-back-gaza-war-on-its-terms-before-netanyahu-statement/
CNN seems a bit quiet on the situation. I don't ever go to MSNBC, don't want to feed them ad revenue.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-03 03:56:06
Crisis solved.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 04:45:30
From the 2nd source, as it's the least biased one:
Quote: Netanyahu said Hamas would pay an "intolerable price" if it continued to attack Israel. If being the key word.
By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 04:59:56
Israel killing civilians as the Ambulances come to take care of the wounded - They bomb the Ambulances as well
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Translation of most of the voices:
"There is no god but god" - Cameraman saying this as others do. Cameraman died.
Muslims say "There is no God but God" in hopes of meeting their creator in the next life with their final act being a good one.
The rest is from random people who were obviously hurt or killed by the bombing.
"My arms, my arms are gone"
"Oh God have mercy"
"Damn you Israel.. Damn you Israel"
"Ambulance....Ambulance..Someone call an Ambulance"
"My brother isn't moving.. please someone get an Ambulance"
"I leave it to God, I leave it to God"
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 05:03:03
I'm a little disappointed this discussion never got into the Kingdom of Khazaria or how the right of return actually refers to area that's mostly in present day Georgia (the country).
Oh well, next time.
We did get into the holocausts, but meh, everyone does that.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-08-03 05:03:04
What's wrong with you guys and you're severe inability of posting videos? lol it's not hard!
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 05:10:46
YouTube Video Placeholder ftfy.
Like someone in this thread said, it's their fault for voting for Hamas, not the people who fired off the missiles or bombs.
Democracy!
Not that I agree with it, but that's the consensus here it seems.
Almost 300 children killed alone in this conflict, but blame the parents for voting for Hamas. Israel is just defending itself.
Now of course if this happened somewhere else, the opinions would be vastly different depending on where and who it is.
By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 05:12:04
UNRWA Christopher Gunness Breaks Down In Tears On Live TV After Attacks On Schools In Gaza | VIDEO
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 05:14:20
What's wrong with you guys and you're severe inability of posting videos? lol it's not hard! One video, that one person posts because they were trying to get it to start at a certain time frame hardly constitutes 'you guys.'
By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 05:16:12
I'll gladly take the comment from Seha as constructive criticism. I don't actually know why it didn't work.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 05:18:01
I'll gladly take the comment from Seha as constructive criticism. I don't actually know why it didn't work. Fair enough. It's because you can't use the links to start at a specific frame or time reference and usually better to use the share link youtube gives in the share tab.
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By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 05:25:33
An Israeli lawmaker calls for the genocide of the Palestinian people; direct quote included:
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By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 05:29:32
This debate would never take place in the US Congress or Senate - mind you the UK is historically pro-Israeli, but just like the rest of the world is quickly waking up.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-03 05:40:58
Well, there are at least a few of us here that are willing to admit the stupidity of both sides.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-08-03 05:46:02
Four twins just born in Gaza. It's the four horsemen. Apocalypse inc.
By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 05:47:17
New Yorkers asked about Palestine
Best bit is at the end.
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By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 05:49:59
Well, there are at least a few of us here that are willing to admit the stupidity of both sides. I'll take that as long as you're also willing to admit that there are a great deal of Americans who have no idea what it is going on in Palestine and speak very passionately for Israel based on what their local churches and politicians quote from the Bible and other racist dogma.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-03 06:02:25
Well, there are at least a few of us here that are willing to admit the stupidity of both sides. I'll take that as long as you're also willing to admit that there are a great deal of Americans who have no idea what it is going on in Palestine and speak very passionately for Israel based on what their local churches and politicians quote from the Bible and other racist dogma. Absolutely. Neither side is innocent in this. Hamas is being stupid and Israel is taking the attacks too far, in my opinion.
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