I think Broken refers more to how an op class breaks the balance of a game, so then it would need fixing.
In this case, BLU may not be broken but nerfing it may bring balance to the game a bit. We are looking at balance of a game and not individual jobs.
This lol, ppl really need to stop taking words to extreme level by repeatedly abusing the term "broken" when other ppl didn't even use it. One example is this:
This is funny because this is what you complaining about earlier so now you are convinced that these aren't broken which kills your argument again.
I tried to search in this very thread but I can't seem to find any post that I made about cocoon/occulation being "broken" and something incredibly op. The only person that made a strong vocal opinion about BLU's defensive ability was actually Comeatmebro and Ladyofhonor. I only added (painfully obvious) facts by saying a statement like this:
A none blu DD using DT- set and playing defensively do less dps, v.s blu that can just go all out without any penalty.
Despite it's obvious fact, the above sentence does not have the same meaning as "cocoon and occult is broken"
Then I made my next statement about BLU's defense:
No, massive defense isn't going to be the difference between victory and defeat, nor suddenly make none blu DD pt kill 500% slower.
Which is clearly the opposite of "cocoon is broken".
Then I presented my opinion about Comeatmebro's suggestion of 30% dps nerf.
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said:
»My recommendation would be to reduce their damage by roughly 30%. That way, a turtled up BLU is still the most durable of the DPS classes, and an offensive BLU is still ahead of a turtled up other DPS job.
30% dps nerf, No thanks......
Nerfing cocoon and MG defense stacking is probably better.
Again, this statement does not have the equal meaning as "cocoon is broken", just resonating Comeatmebro and Ladyofhonor's idea of adjustments to BLU's offensive/defensive ratio. In this case I agreed with Ladyofhonor's idea and didn't agree with Comeatmebro's idea.
Here's another quote I made about BLU's defense:
Alternate entrust with BLU mighty guard. You can still entrust precision if you need THAT much acc, which shouldn't be. What you are suggesting isn't going to change anything. Even if they removed cocoon, occultation, haste buff from MG and the trait bonus, people would still use BLU because its what the bandwagon is using. If this was the case people would have bandwagoned BLU a long time ago because its always had more buffs over other DD and maintained good damage since Abyssea.
BLU didn't have self cap nor acc advantage post Abyssea until BLUwagon happened. I vaguely remember 2h DD still had more acc advantage from 2012 to 2013. BLU only gains massive acc advantage post 1h adjustment and JT2.
BLU also couldn't self cap haste back then, that's the major difference.
Defense is just icing on the cake, but MG and cocoon stacking kinda push it even further. Also if I remember correctly(sorry, been a while so my memory is vague), defense stat weren't as relevant in Abyssea era, unlike these days.
Over all I found your argument of "BLU has always been the same" kinda false, considering a lot has changed.....acc gap between jobs , free GEO bubbles for more acc beause of MG, the fact that contents need acc, defense became more relevant etc.
Or maybe it's not that BLU has changed, instead it's FFXI pt dynamics that has changed so BLU in 2015/2016 gained more advantage than 2012.
Again, the statement that I made was actually "defense is just icing on the cake and stacking MG/cocoon push it further" not "BLU's defense is most broken ever".
Finally, this sums my stance about BLU in this issue:
My argument has always been BLU being PUG friendly because of mg, acc and defense, this has never change, and if you already have one in pt makes more sense to invite 2nd one(exclusively).
All I read is "My argument has always been BLU being PUG friendly because of mg, acc and defense" which does not have equal meaning as "cocoon/occult is the most broken thing ever".
My argument about BLU's defense has been the same from what I've read unless I'm missing a misworded post or something. I think it's a nice advantage for melee that a lot of jobs don't have, and I don't think it's quite fair.
That does not have equal meaning as saying it's broken or op. But for some reason ppl just take it to the extreme level and claim I said cocoon is broken op when all I said was it's an advantage. Wtf.
Same goes for whoever claiming I hate BLU or claim I think BLU is more broken than GEO just because I have more post in BLU discussion. This is going too far. It's one thing to disagree with other's opinion. It's another thing to take other's opinion to extreme level as if this world is just black and white but no gray area.
