Besides where the acc is needed;
Masa 99 > Amano 99 > Masa 95 > Amano 95 > Masa 90.
As for draca vs amano, with capped attack (berserk up) I can see a 4 hit draca beating a 5 hit amano through sheer rate of WS over individual WS dmg. On anything with higher def though (bosses, etc), sam stardiver starts to blow.
Gearing SAM For NNI
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Gearing SAM for NNI
Never use abyssea to gauge how a weapon would perform for things outside abyssea :<
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Yes...and barring that instance where the acc IS needed, 99 masa > 99 amano..as i said before.
Yeah I read your post wrong sorry. I misread the first part.
As for my gear sets
SAM TP-Stardiver ItemSet 297337 Just over 25 sTP I beleive SAM WS-Stardiver ItemSet 297339 on the fence between Twilight mail and Karieyh haubert Karieyh body would beat twilight, rest is acceptable (ws).
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You think the atk out weighs the acc considering i'm basically a B+ capped at 99 with polearm 8/8. I was seeing misses IN ABY on stardiver based on dmg and tp return. I could imagine they would be more frequent outside.
just remember in NNI pretty much all mobs are easy to cap attack outside of nms.
thats where stardiver shines, but once you hit some hnms/nms i usually just switch over to gkt. but I've cleared 100 using nothing but draca just fine as well so it really shouldn't matter. edit- Karieyh body by a mile for your ws set. if you really need accuracy THAT badly use pizza+1 Pretty much what ghaleon said. Phorcy > Karieyh > Everything else for WS, unless ur in legion.
Would it be optimal to 4 hit it or is 5 hit the way to go?
5-hit before Salvage v2/NNI gear. 4-hit is reasonably attainable once you get Usukane Sune-ate +1, Usukane Haramaki +1 and Phorcys Salade. Assuming you're talking about with Draca Couse anyway.
Here is where I am at right now, could I get some tips on things i need to change now/future upgrade paths?
ItemSet 297373 To start, should I use pole or sword strap as it is an easy 5 hit with either grip. What second ring should I use during tp as tyrants is not needed. I'm working on bullwhip (if i get frustrated phos) so I'll be at 26% haste soon. Also working currently on usu feet +1 to replace ace's. Thanks Pole is fine. Tyrant's is also fine to use even if you don't need the STP since it's still giving you "TP bonus +2~" from overflow. I'd replace Karieyh hands with Ace's Mufflers as well.
Looks fine other than that and the Bullwhip/Phos you already mentioned. I hadn't even considered Ace's Mufflers.
Str 7 Zanshin Rate +3% vs 14 dex 14 vit and 10 acc I saw a comment above and I suppose you agree that the acc isn't really needed in situations where I would be using the polearm? Bismarck.Llewelyn said: » 5-hit before Salvage v2/NNI gear. 4-hit is reasonably attainable once you get Usukane Sune-ate +1, Usukane Haramaki +1 and Phorcys Salade. Assuming you're talking about with Draca Couse anyway. funny cause im missing the aces leggings and unkai nodowa out of my set and im getting 24tp a hit atm. 4 hit once i do i would have to assume. Asura.Daichi said: » I hadn't even considered Ace's Mufflers. Str 7 Zanshin Rate +3% vs 14 dex 14 vit and 10 acc I saw a comment above and I suppose you agree that the acc isn't really needed in situations where I would be using the polearm? -4 store tp Obviously you'd balance that out with another piece of gear.
Not a big deal with Draca Couse. Pretty hard to NOT 5-hit with it.
Asura.Jezzus said: » Bismarck.Llewelyn said: » 5-hit before Salvage v2/NNI gear. 4-hit is reasonably attainable once you get Usukane Sune-ate +1, Usukane Haramaki +1 and Phorcys Salade. Assuming you're talking about with Draca Couse anyway. funny cause im missing the aces leggings and unkai nodowa out of my set and im getting 24tp a hit atm. 4 hit once i do i would have to assume. Here. These are the sets I'm referring to for Draca Couse 4-hit:
ItemSet 297432 Only noted the WS pieces with STP on them since we're only looking at the hit build at the moment: ItemSet 297433 TP: 13 * 1.97 = 25.6 floored 25.6 * 3 = 76.8 WS: 13 * 1.55 = 20.1 floored 76.8 + 20.1 = 96.9 Additional hits from stardiver with the listed STP pieces are 1.5 TP per hit with a total of 3 extra hits. While you *can* 4-hit with the gear sets listed, you are unfortunately .1 TP short of being 1-miss-tolerant (assuming no DAs). I'd probably consider swapping Hagneia Stone into the WS set for a little safety net. Don't forget even if you don't miss, there's still the possibility of killing a mob with only the first 3 hits of your Stardiver as well.
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Bismarck.Llewelyn said: » No, unless you plan on WSing what you're TPing in. What your getting at here is the set I have posted cant 4 hit? Have you done the math? heres my tp set ItemSet 297337 Base TP/hit Delay Range 480-530: 13+((480-480)x1.5)/50= 13 TP/hit Total Store TP 54 (gear) 30 (Store TP V job trait) 10 (Store TP merits 5/5 (2 sTP per merit) 94 sTP Total TP/hit 13x(1+(94/100)= 25.22 TP/hit Unless my math or wikia's formulas are wrong that looks like a 4 hit tp build. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Store_TP Asura.Lokimaru said: » Obviously you'd balance that out with another piece of gear. Well I guess I was thinking more with my own situation in mind. Keeping the 4 hit with reasonably easy to obtain gear such as stuff that doesnt come from NNI itself or things like salvage which I myself have not gotten into yet. Let me know if theres stuff I may have missed. Let me see what you're WSing with.
Your TP phase:
25.2 * 3 = 75.6 Your WS return: 19.6 (1.5 per extra hit for a maximum of 24.1 tp return) 75.6 + 24.1 = 99.7 Not a 4-hit unless all hits from Stardiver land + a double attack proc. You could 4-hit if you had a Hagneia Stone, sure, but you're still sitting at 22% haste and depending on all hits to land (not a *huge* deal, I personally just prefer not to require all hits of a multi-hit WS to land to keep x-hit) with that set. the way i see it. i gain 25 tp a hit, therefore i hit 4 times i have 100tp. I never was counting my WS as part of my TP build its just extra TP to me. Thats how i was looking at it and how my friend explained it to me when he built the set. I'm new to heavy DD jobs i play thf and nin mostly. Maybe i'll get that hagneia stone.
The easiest way to fix that into a 4-hit build would be to add a Rose Strap. This would also allow for misses on your WS. Hagneia Stone would work, too, but still requires you to hit all hits of Stardiver.
Asura.Jezzus said: » the way i see it. i gain 25 tp a hit, therefore i hit 4 times i have 100tp. I never was counting my WS as part of my TP build its just extra TP to me. Thats how i was looking at it and how my friend explained it to me when he built the set. I'm new to heavy DD jobs i play thf and nin mostly. Maybe i'll get that hagneia stone. Asura.Aineko said: » The easiest way to fix that into a 4-hit build would be to add a Rose Strap. This would also allow for misses on your WS. Hagneia Stone would work, too, but still requires you to hit all hits of Stardiver. he should get both really, hagneia stone is ~2-3days worth of dyna farming. isn't that hard to get. it's 2013, and you still don't have rose strap? :| |
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