100,000,000g Bounty

For one, most people who are "good" at pvp (Atleast, back when people did it.) Actually had pvp gear. This is 1v1 which requires different type of equipment because it's basically who can counter the other person's build better to win. >.>

I have my pride and honor but I realize the truth much more. I know Urteil can kick my butt worse than Kali can beat me in Chess. ._.

I guess what I don't understand is, why are you so adverse to the test server? Your stated goal is to fight, win and be strong right? Even with a no reward at all, you're likely to get more challenges and it's likely to be fun for both sides.

1. Test server allows you to fight more people, and more likely to be skilled people because they tend to be those who are more invested in the game and thus won't transfer. More people, particularly people from other servers offer new challenges. Despite the forums and other connections between servers, there tends to be some differences between each in style and such. It's like fighting people with different weapons and strats from other countries and figuring out how to win against them.

2. If you really think there might be some kind of issue with the test server that would actually pose an issue to a fight... Who cares? It's a new challenge to overcome, a new thing to adapt and win anyway. A fight isn't just about the opponent, but growing your own skills in ever changing variables. Using this as a reason not to is like those historical duels where people claimed poor footing or being in an unfamiliar area as reasons for declining.

3. If you care about their gear, then you can screen people, if they seem like a decent fight, you can confirm their gear and accept.

4. Better yet, who cares if they get all the best gear on the test server without working for it? Beat them anyway despite them having access to all sorts of gear and if you loose? So what, loosing shows you your weaknesses and lets you strengthen them for your next fight. If you challenge people with unlimited access to gear then you get a better and more fun fight.

For someone who loves ballista like you do, I just don't see any downside here. And if there's anything you don't like, add some rules to make it more interesting. I feel like you're really loosing out on some fun by dismissing prior suggestions.


I apologize in advance if this is considered complaining or mucking up the thread but I feel its worth asking.

lol you know you guys are funny. You guys act like I said I would win. I said point blank it wasn't worth 50 bucks for a chance to win. I never said Urteil was bad either. you could spend 50 bucks on something else that won't be named and you have probably just as much chance to get the money in the game but you don't have to be on a different server for a month or however long it is.

1) Screening would be incredibly tedious and is unnecessary as this shouldn't be a factor. The gear/items/advantages are what you earned.
2) Getting your gear, resources, and your time spent in the game is a "skill".
3) The fight there can/will always be questioned as the environment is not standard.
4) Concerning that some things like level-sync don't function properly that can of worms needs to be avoided.
5)This way nobody can make excuses when they lose, especially me.

I'm pretty sure everyone wishes they could beat Urteil but they know they can't so they deal with their inferiority complex by telling themselves they don't care or it doesn't matter.

What percentage of the total population box or care about boxing? (You can say this about almost anything and the answer will be small). I don't think I've ever watched a televised boxing match, I don't know who the champion is, and I really don't care about boxing at all, it has zero impact on my life. I still know though that it is tough as ***to be boxing champion and defend your title from all takers. Me not caring doesn't diminish the accomplishment at all, this is the position Urteil is in.

People who PvP in FFXI know they are a small minority, they do it because they love it and there are other people who do care and can respect their commitment. This thread is aimed at finding more of those people, not at the general public who we already know don't give a ***.

I'll take that as a no.

most people don't care about his position a lot of people who have problems with urteil are people who dislike the attitude he is giving other players because they say something in this thread. like when I stated I would try it but it isn't worth the 50 bucks to transfer just to try.

Using the test server would also require that every participant uses Guildwork to catalog their gear, as FFXI community doesn't register all items, and can even over-look pivotal items like relics and empyreans. My Ukon is a great example. Isn't even listed on my profile. More, Guildwork can be tricked. It also can't properly parse items with augments like the Magian items, which can be generated on the test server, as far as I know.

Don't say stupid things and people wont act like you are stupid?

And I offered you a free fight you could win 100k. I doubt you would have tried even if you was on your server.

To be fair, gw isn't perfect either. Confuses the level of empies/relics often.

maybe take your own advice here?

Hapa this isn't your thread either afaik. Maybe you should stop just as well.

Reason seems pretty simple to me. The guy said that even if you transfer, it might take a bit before he has time to get to you. I'm pretty sure the guy has a life, whether online, offline, or both.

Who has time to fight every Tom, ***, and Harry who would want to throw down with Urteil when they have to put literally nothing at stake? There aren't enough hours in the day.

Making them transfer is a very effective way to narrow the field to serious applicants only.

Everyone who isnt urteil plz stop posting? ty.


I enjoy pvp, while stuck on asura I look for good matches. I see someone on a forum puff out their chest about it from asura, I offer a challenge and called his bluff.

Would it qualify as a bluff. More like /sunglasses a cream-puff.

lol puff out my chest? where did I say I was great at pvp? or even good for that matter? Do yourself a favor.

We're here to talk about Urteil's challenge, make your thread. Like it's been suggested to many already through the pages.

As long as you can accept that there will be people - qualified combatants - who cannot/will not leave their friends for ninety days, sure.

I have no issue with any of his rules, it's his contest. But not wanting a ninety-day trip to Phoenix doesn't make one a coward.

If I fought people like you anywhere all I'd have were a bunch of videos showing me spanking scrubs.

The difference is "now" there is a doubt as to that everyone will be incompetent, with quality material like you, I think the HD space isn't even worth using.

If you want to go prove your competence then go defeat Hapa, if you can't beat him then you are in some strange Dr. Who universe where you think you can even pose a threat to me.

ITT: 15 year olds who can't read or decipher sentences. Not one comment I've read is a person who is spewing "whiny ***". *** you are on a public forum on the *** internet, what the *** do you expect? I can't even act like an adult when everyone here expressing their opinion, concern, or suggestions is immediately flamed for being a wannabe, noskill, whatever whatever. Get real, people. This is like the redneck kid in your high school who spent every weekend fighting people then you wonder why he's good in a fight. You put the time into being good at something. Sweet dude.

Can't believe I got sucked into this shitty thread. I immediately regretted it. Forgot the average kid that played this game.

what

I wouldn't leave my friends of a week to do something like this.

this thread is bringin out the crazies again!

Then don't people shouldn't come running their out of tune mouth. "I can beat him, just i don't want to waste my money."

If you are going to say these kinds of things just keep it to yourself and shut up. Saying you can and then running behind this is a clear show of cowardice.

Awwww shii~.....ish just got real in her.

For realzies though, Urteil laid down the challenge, with explicit rules, right from the start, never made excuses, and has to deal with all different kinds of reasons for why they could not challenge him. Some are legit like not wanting to pay real money just for a chance at winning in game currency. Others are just plain excuses. Point is, if you want to take the challenge, post here, let him know, and get the show started. If not, kick back and relax, don't hate on the guy for boasting just because he's good at what he does. Sure he can seem abrasive, but if you had people talking a big game that never wanted to back it up, wouldn't you get a little annoyed too?

There's no magical way to automatically determine whether someone is a qualified combatant. There's no perfect filter, yet the number of hours in a day dictates there has to be SOME filter. An imperfect filter is better than nothing.

It doesn't make you a coward, but if you're not going to accept his terms, i don't see the purpose of spending four pages claiming you could beat him if you felt like it.

Thread so far:

OP: Come fight me! You only have to pay RL $ and give up 3 months with your friends.

Us: Man, this fight looks like so much fun. I'd love to try it out, but I don't have the money and/or can't/won't ditch my friends/LS for 3 months for this laughably low amount of gil(or any gil at all)

OP&friends: HA, I AM THE BEST. YOU ARE A COWARD AND LOSER.

Us: Well, why not take this to the test server, pending tests to determine how different it is from the real servers, if at all.

OP&friends: NO, TOO MUCH WORK, YOU ARE A CHICKEN OR ELSE YOU'D COME FIGHT ME NOW!

Obviously, I skipped the idiots who say it'd be easy to beat the OP. It certainly wouldn't be and I don't think anyone who gave this a serious glance thought it would be. But the OP has been very hostile to the people who give him criticism because they can't meet his harsh demands to fight him. Thus, I feel the test server at a reduced gil reward would be the best option for all.

Not wanting the trip does not make you a coward.

Posting that you are "powerful" while knowing the limitations of you not coming. Does.

Here is the flow of things as I see it:

The challenge was posted, this is courageous as it opens up the doors to conflict and places the poster in an advantageous position.

The challenge must now be received as challengers must either accept or retreat further as the first move was made by the other party - which placed "me" at risk.


If people don't want to transfer than don't, they aren't the cowards, the cowards are people saying "I wanna fight you" or "You aren't ***you only fight dumb people" but then do not pay.

When you say things like that but knew you couldn't deliver or "pay" then you are either stupid or a coward.






100,000,000g is a pretty harsh reward, combined with paying the victor's fee home. . .