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By Odin.Liela 2011-12-15 11:35:47
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I know I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, and I know I can be paranoid. But this makes me almost scared to have children in America because I feel like they will not be free here. And if my children are nothing else, I want them to be free.
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By Odin.Liela 2011-12-15 11:36:14
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Oops, bad page opener. My bad!
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By Artemicion 2011-12-15 11:36:59
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Speech, communications, liberties? Can't have those and let the terrorists win!
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-12-15 11:37:18
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The US isn't exactly free lol
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By slipispsycho 2011-12-15 11:40:14
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Not that I'm a fanboy for the US or anything, but in it's defense, you're not really free anywhere. Freedoms you have here, other places don't and vice versa.
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By Odin.Liela 2011-12-15 11:41:11
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You know how if you are born on American soil, you are American even if your parents are not? I wonder if it's like that other places. Like if I just so happened to accidentally be in Canada when I give birth, if that would give my children the safety net of Canadian citizenship. I wonder how much difference it would even make. :/
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-12-15 11:41:45
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Psycho Slip said: »
Not that I'm a fanboy for the US or anything, but in it's defense, you're not really free anywhere. Freedoms you have here, other places don't and vice versa.


yeah but for a country that prides itself in it's freedom and how great it is ... sure is doing a shitty job at it :p
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By Odin.Liela 2011-12-15 11:41:48
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Psycho Slip said: »
Not that I'm a fanboy for the US or anything, but in it's defense, you're not really free anywhere. Freedoms you have here, other places don't and vice versa.

This is true too. I know I'm just being paranoid. Watched too much V for Vendetta, I think!
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By Artemicion 2011-12-15 11:42:44
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I'm not exactly gun in hand, other hand over heart for allegiance patriotic, but I can at least acknowledge that the US is a great place for general living qualities and inherit rights for self-motivated success and movement of policies that shape our future.

The problem is, our liberties and rights are constantly under attack and infringement over something as ridiculous as terrorism. A concept many fail to understand and linearity place on any demograph of undesirable consequence.

Pretty much as come down to: "If you don't agree with me, you must be un-american or a terrorist!"
Yes, by all means spend >50% of the entire US budget on militaristic purposes and neglect funding for necessary public programs and amenities many depend on to even so much as survive. *rolls eyes*
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2011-12-15 11:43:36
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Odin.Liela said: »
You know how if you are born on American soil, you are American even if your parents are not? I wonder if it's like that other places. Like if I just so happened to accidentally be in Canada when I give birth, if that would give my children the safety net of Canadian citizenship. I wonder how much difference it would even make. :/
Weren't they getting rid of that? Because people were using it as an excuse to stay in america because of the kid?
 
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-12-15 11:46:43
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Fenrir.Uzugami said: »
Odin.Liela said: »
You know how if you are born on American soil, you are American even if your parents are not? I wonder if it's like that other places. Like if I just so happened to accidentally be in Canada when I give birth, if that would give my children the safety net of Canadian citizenship. I wonder how much difference it would even make. :/
Weren't they getting rid of that? Because people were using it as an excuse to stay in america because of the kid?

i believe it give the child dual citizenship in america and the country it was born in, and i think they can hold that dual citizenship until they turn 18, when they need to pick one citizenship (im not sure on the last part though)
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-12-15 11:47:37
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
north america definitely is a great place to live guys, we have so much we take for granted compared to other parts of the world (I don't mean just third world countries)
Love the country, hate parts of the government and a large part of the population.
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By Asura.Ina 2011-12-15 11:48:07
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Odin.Liela said: »
You know how if you are born on American soil, you are American even if your parents are not? I wonder if it's like that other places. Like if I just so happened to accidentally be in Canada when I give birth, if that would give my children the safety net of Canadian citizenship. I wonder how much difference it would even make. :/
You made me curious and I googled

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In general, you are a Canadian citizen if you were born in Canada. You are not a Canadian citizen if you were born in Canada and at the time of your birth, your parents were neither Canadian citizens nor permanent residents, and at least one parent had diplomatic status in Canada.
Your text to link here...
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By Odin.Liela 2011-12-15 11:49:21
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Artemicion said: »
I'm not exactly gun in hand, other hand over heart for allegiance patriotic, but I can at least acknowledge that the US is a great place for general living qualities and inherit rights for self-motivated success and movement of policies that shape our future.

The problem is, our liberties and rights are constantly under attack and infringement over something as ridiculous as terrorism. A concept many fail to understand and linearity place on any demograph of undesirable consequence.

Pretty much as come down to: "If you don't agree with me, you must be un-american or a terrorist!"
Yes, by all means spend >50% of the entire US budget on militaristic purposes and neglect funding for necessary public programs and amenities many depend on to even so much as survive. *rolls eyes*

This. And this: http://flipthepyramid.com/index.php/entry/10-ridiculous-things-that-make-you-a-terror-suspect (If that site is even true. Big IF.) These things, coupled with the bill that lets the military arrest suspected terrorists (I believe the white house said it would pass this bill? I might be wrong) frightens me.

I own a gajillion flashlights, I'm not part of Occupy but I agree with some of what they have to say, storing 7+ days of food is very easy with a freezer, if I'm texting in public there's a decent chance I'm going to try to keep those around me from seeing what I text because it's not their darn business, I don't explicitly trust everything the government does or says and I sure don't trust their motives, I've burned myself setting fires in the fireplace and cooking before and I probably will again (although as far as I know I don't have any burn marks.) These things make me a terrorist? WTeffinF?

(Keeping in mind that I have NOT verified that anything that site says is true.) By the time my children are adults, if it continues in this pattern, anything they do or say could be misunderstood as terrorism. Not cool.
 
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By Artemicion 2011-12-15 11:51:28
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My dad was born in Japan too actually.
1961, not sure why or how his folks were there in the first place.
But that didn't exactly green light paperwork to make him a Japanese citizen lol.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-12-15 11:52:05
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
Fenrir.Uzugami said: »
Odin.Liela said: »
You know how if you are born on American soil, you are American even if your parents are not? I wonder if it's like that other places. Like if I just so happened to accidentally be in Canada when I give birth, if that would give my children the safety net of Canadian citizenship. I wonder how much difference it would even make. :/
Weren't they getting rid of that? Because people were using it as an excuse to stay in america because of the kid?

i believe it give the child dual citizenship in america and the country it was born in, and i think they can hold that dual citizenship until they turn 18, when they need to pick one citizenship (im not sure on the last part though)

Here they let us have dual citizenship o: /haz
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-12-15 11:53:05
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so anyways can anyone summarize what i missed in the last few pages? i just got up
 
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2011-12-15 11:54:18
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lol at some dumbass saying he'll help with LB for 1mil.
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By Artemicion 2011-12-15 11:54:26
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Asura.Bartimaeus said: »
Artemicion said: »
My dad was born in Japan too actually.
1961, not sure why or how his folks were there in the first place.
But that didn't exactly green light paperwork to make him a Japanese citizen lol.

zomg long lost brothers

We shall play Earthbound until the end of our days together~

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Bart, this is truly a ride into the sunset moment.
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By Sylph.Spency 2011-12-15 11:54:33
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I bet I'm better at Earthbound than you guys!
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-12-15 11:55:57
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I sense an Earthbound contest!
 
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By slipispsycho 2011-12-15 11:58:07
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Odin.Liela said: »
By the time my children are adults, if it continues in this pattern, anything they do or say could be misunderstood as terrorism. Not cool.

Wouldn't really matter where you live, the whole world seems to be going to ***, even if they're not directly involved, if say, Iran/China/N. Korea do start lobbing nukes or start up a war, it could easily affect every country.

I've been saying for a long time that our rights are being slowly stripped away, so it's not like I'm just oblivious to that, but I'm more worried about how the world is going to be in general for my son when he's older, than the noose the government is putting on our rights.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-12-15 12:01:44
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I'm hoping that eventually the older politicians will retire and younger ones will replace them with different ideas and start to reverse what has been done. Give freedoms back, stop spending on unnecessary programs, etc.

I can dream, right?
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By Odin.Liela 2011-12-15 12:01:51
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Psycho Slip said: »
Odin.Liela said: »
By the time my children are adults, if it continues in this pattern, anything they do or say could be misunderstood as terrorism. Not cool.

Wouldn't really matter where you live, the whole world seems to be going to ***, even if they're not directly involved, if say, Iran/China/N. Korea do start lobbing nukes or start up a war, it could easily affect every country.

I've been saying for a long time that our rights are being slowly stripped away, so it's not like I'm just oblivious to that, but I'm more worried about how the world is going to be in general for my son when he's older, than the noose the government is putting on our rights.

Aw Slip. You are right, just like usual. It doesn't make me feel better for my future babies, but it's true.
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By Kujata.Daus 2011-12-15 12:03:14
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for some reason state boards does not seem nearly as frightening as going to graduation or pinning.

bought to leave for the pinning ceremony and I am freaking out.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-12-15 12:03:15
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
I'm hoping that eventually the older politicians will retire and younger ones will replace them with different ideas and start to reverse what has been done. Give freedoms back, stop spending on unnecessary programs, etc.

I can dream, right?

but the thing is, by that time, will it be too late? will enough damage have been done to make it unlikely for the country to recover?
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