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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-08-18 16:13:15
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are? I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it. You called the people at Oxford tools... I take that right away as you putting yourself above them in situation. Therefore you criticized their decisions. Now I'm asking what makes you someone that is qualified to criticize anyone in the matter?
Simply my stance on the matter.
Internet lingo belongs on urbandictionary.com, not on this
 What makes that any more professional than Urban Dictionary? Because old white people say it is?
Sorry, Art, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-08-18 16:14:39
Which is more impressive... knowing every word in the Oxford English Dictionary and its definition or knowing every word on Urban Dictionary and its definition?
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 16:17:38
Considering Oxford is a community of academic prodigies and scholars that can establish structured language and what does and does not fit in, and Urban Dictionary is an open source, public vote system made to define things simply by unrestricted submission speaks for itself.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:17:41
omfg yessss we're having meatloaf tonight =D
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-08-18 16:18:39
Considering Oxford is a community of academic prodigies and scholars that can establish structured language and what does and does not fit in, and Urban Dictionary is an open source, public vote system made to define things simply by unrestricted submission speaks for itself.
I don't think it does.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 16:18:43
I assume you think it's completely acceptable for students to turn in assignments and essays with internet speak too?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 16:19:43
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are? I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it. You called the people at Oxford tools... I take that right away as you putting yourself above them in situation. Therefore you criticized their decisions. Now I'm asking what makes you someone that is qualified to criticize anyone in the matter? Simply my stance on the matter. Internet lingo belongs on urbandictionary.com, not on this  So... basicaly you're saying that they're tools because they disagree with you?
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 16:20:05
Considering Oxford is a community of academic prodigies and scholars that can establish structured language and what does and does not fit in, and Urban Dictionary is an open source, public vote system made to define things simply by unrestricted submission speaks for itself.
I don't think it does.
And that's fine too.
You can dismiss them as quickly as I did after they added these terms in the first place.
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By Leviathan.Narshe 2011-08-18 16:20:07
I talk and type the way I want to. I couldn't care less if someone doesn't like it or doesn't want to get to know me because of it.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 16:20:26
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:20:56
ITT: people saying that random people who may or may not be total idiots are a better source for the english language than professionals who study it and its usage every day
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 16:21:42
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are? I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it. You called the people at Oxford tools... I take that right away as you putting yourself above them in situation. Therefore you criticized their decisions. Now I'm asking what makes you someone that is qualified to criticize anyone in the matter? Simply my stance on the matter. Internet lingo belongs on urbandictionary.com, not on this  So... basicaly you're saying that they're tools because they disagree with you?
I disagree with them. But pretty much yes. Call it crude, condescending, unprofessional or unmerited or anything you will.
It's simply my stance on the matter; nothing more or less.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 16:23:18
I assume you think it's completely acceptable for students to turn in assignments and essays with internet speak too? That depends on what is required of them via the instructions of the professor. Same as anything, guidlines are set up for a reason. Offices have dress codes and some would laugh you out of the office if you came in anything less than a shirt and tie while others let you run around in spandex and dragon hats. People are expected to follow the guidelines set forth by the professor or the office execs or whomever. Just because something seems ridiculous to you in one place doesn't mean it doesn't fit in some other place.
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-08-18 16:23:29
Considering Oxford is a community of academic prodigies and scholars that can establish structured language and what does and does not fit in, and Urban Dictionary is an open source, public vote system made to define things simply by unrestricted submission speaks for itself.
I understand that, well worded, as usual.
But I am of the opinion that we are the architects of our lives. We construct our own realities, and we should continue to construct these realities until the day we die.
The fact that an elite group of middle-aged caucasian males have the final word on language, something that we all use, is sad.
Sandolfucius say: In 75 years, netspeak will be as revered as proper English is now. Mark my words.
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-08-18 16:24:13
ITT: people saying that random people who may or may not be total idiots are a better source for the english language than professionals who study it and its usage every day
They study it and it's usage because "total idiots" use the words in the first place. The english language isn't set in stone. New words pop up, usually derived from slang that total idiots use.
I mean, yeah, I have a problem with "g2g" and "brb" being considered "real" words, considering they're abbreviations of sayings, but whatever. Maybe I'm too old and not hip enough to get it, or something... but apparently the folks behind the Oxford Dictionary are hip enough.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 16:24:55
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are? I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it. You called the people at Oxford tools... I take that right away as you putting yourself above them in situation. Therefore you criticized their decisions. Now I'm asking what makes you someone that is qualified to criticize anyone in the matter? Simply my stance on the matter. Internet lingo belongs on urbandictionary.com, not on this  So... basicaly you're saying that they're tools because they disagree with you? I disagree with them. But pretty much yes. Call it crude, condescending, unprofessional or unmerited or anything you will. It's simply my stance on the matter; nothing more or less. I find it interesting that you refer to your own actions as unprofessional, but you're ok with those actions, yet you're not ok with the "unprofessional" actions of otehrs, well the ones you don't agree with that is.
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-08-18 16:25:22
oh i guess they added colors and junk o.o weird
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-08-18 16:25:33
I assume you think it's completely acceptable for students to turn in assignments and essays with internet speak too?
That's harder to answer. Since netspeak is rather new, it hasn't been incorporated with the conventions of grammar.
I'd have to say no, but not because its unprofessional. But because there isn't a way to utilize it professionally.
EDIT: What it boils down to, at least for me, is: the purpose of language is to communicate. If at a point, a tenet of language becomes counter productive to that goal, then that tenet should be removed.
This is why grammar is important. But is also why netspeak terms are acceptable.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:25:44
also inb4 newspeak reference
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 16:26:35
Off to get a haircut, laters.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 16:26:46
I assume you think it's completely acceptable for students to turn in assignments and essays with internet speak too? That depends on what is required of them via the instructions of the professor. Same as anything, guidlines are set up for a reason. Offices have dress codes and some would laugh you out of the office if you came in anything less than a shirt and tie while others let you run around in spandex and dragon hats. People are expected to follow the guidelines set forth by the professor or the office execs or whomever. Just because something seems ridiculous to you in one place doesn't mean it doesn't fit in some other place.
>:( I want to go to work in spaghetti straps and denim skirts in this heat! That would make life a lot easier.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2011-08-18 16:27:40
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 16:28:28
oh i guess they added colors and junk o.o weird
Fun, right?!?
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-08-18 16:29:15
oh i guess they added colors and junk o.o weird
Fun, right?!? meeeh i think its gunna make more "LOL LOOK GAIZ U CANT READ MY COLOR"
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:29:29
scragg wins, as always XD
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 16:29:49
Considering Oxford is a community of academic prodigies and scholars that can establish structured language and what does and does not fit in, and Urban Dictionary is an open source, public vote system made to define things simply by unrestricted submission speaks for itself.
I understand that, well worded, as usual.
But I am of the opinion that we are the architects of our lives. We construct our own realities, and we should continue to construct these realities until the day we die.
The fact that an elite group of middle-aged caucasian males have the final word on language, something that we all use, is sad.
Sandolfucius say: In 75 years, netspeak will be as revered as proper English is now. Mark my words.
The only reason it bugs me really is because the words and lingo have one common denominator: the internet. An isolated, albeit vast and widely used telecommunication tool throughout the world, but isolated in terms of origin and use outside of foolhardy and awkward social faux pas in spoken word. As to how or why it belongs as a defined dictionary word despite popularity or having particular definition is beyond me. Just because acronyms or mutilated words that already exist and corporate name-attache terms are flung around regularly online doesn't necessarily qualify it for being a defined and established word for an entire language.
Especially since internet speak is practically becoming a language of it's own. Attaching it to the English language is just silly in my opinion.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-18 16:29:55
OH GOD MY MOUTH IS A WONDERLAND OF FLAVOR
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-18 16:30:10
Scragg you posted in the wrong thread! The rainbow thread is the only place where that is acceptable! D:
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:30:42
is this to your liking chuuuuu?
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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